Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (54 Viewers)

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Cant really find a lie there, sad to say
no shots fired is a lie to boot with. obama should have done more, and that's true for trump 1.0 (and 2.0) too

anyway, vance is a sneaky little prick, the most punchable spineless cunt in murican politics. even miller is more respectable, at least he's a straight up nazi, no ifs or buts

 

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Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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Guys a stupid question
How do you think this war will end?
What kind of peace deals Ukraine and Russia will makes?

Somehow, from my point of view, I don't think it's gonna end before winter.
Russia will try to capitalize as much as possible during this summer.
Once they complete the occupation of those oblasts they'll prolly settle.

But seeing how Ukraine won't accept any kind of deal where they lose any territory and I don't see russians giving up what they conquered
I don't see how it's gonna end where no part is willing to deal with the other.

Russians see Ukraine as dying enemy so the more time they the more territorial conquests they'll make.
Ukraine won't bend for any reason but Trump isn't Biden and UE can't help them. I mean even with Biden help all they could do was resist as much as possible.
Imagine without massive US help.


That's why I don't see the end of this conflict anytime soon.
It will go on either till russians says that they are happy with what they got and just hold what they conquered
Or till when Ukraine front will collapse with fast and vast conquests endangering Ukraine survival.

Then I can see british and frenchs sending men as last resort to stop a total collapse of Ukraine.
Then things will get shittier and shittier if russians won't stop even if France and UK send their army.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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We will kill as many Russians as we can and most of us will die. But at least the world will be much better place without Russians.
ok and what is a peace threaty that Ukraine could take?
oh pls don't write something unbelievable : We'll take back Crimea and conquest Moscow
cause even Zelensky said it's impossible.
So something realistic ?
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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ok and what is a peace threaty that Ukraine could take?
oh pls don't write something unbelievable : We'll take back Crimea and conquest Moscow
cause even Zelensky said it's impossible.
So something realistic ?
It’s above my pay grade. My focus is to make sure as many Russians as possible are in the ground.
Btw, I’ve never mentioned Crimea and Moscow. And I don’t understand why do you think you are entitled to get a “realistic” answer with that smug tone of yours. Go bother someone else.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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It’s above my pay grade. My focus is to make sure as many Russians as possible are in the ground.
Btw, I’ve never mentioned Crimea and Moscow. And I don’t understand why do you think you are entitled to get a “realistic” answer with that smug tone of yours. Go bother someone else.
oh well giving your Rambo answers I expected something like that
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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Why should I bother answering to some entitled Putin’s cocksucker? I don’t own you shit, buddy. Go kick some rocks and leave me the fuck alone.
whatever dude. I'm italian in Italy guess how much I give a ratass about Putin,Russia or Ukraine.
The only impact you guys have on my life is the price of oil,gas and risk of WWIII.
 

Enron

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whatever dude. I'm italian in Italy guess how much I give a ratass about Putin,Russia or Ukraine.
The only impact you guys have on my life is the price of oil,gas and risk of WWIII.
To be fair that was a dumb question to ask a guy who’s in the ground fighting. You have to be completely separated from reality to think you’re going to get an answer within your realm of expectation to a question like that.
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
5,767
To be fair that was a dumb question to ask a guy who’s in the ground fighting. You have to be completely separated from reality to think you’re going to get an answer within your realm of expectation to a question like that.
I don't even know who is he or what he does.
I simply asked what was his pov on a possible peace threaty.
He got angry and defensive over nothing, called me a putin sucker or whatever and told me to kick rocks.
I'm always civil and didn't reply back while I could totally make a similiar punch line because I understand he is in a tough situation.

I asked because in Italy we have discussions on tv about it.
So I wanted an actual Ukraine view on the war.

All I got was "we'll all die but at least we'll take some russians with us" which I literally don't care if they kill 1m or 10m of russians before being defeted.
I dunno why he thinks I'm some russian troll and he feels these punch lines has any emotional impact on me or whatever.

Media propaganda is weird on both sides so it was interesting to see some reality from someone living there.
My fault guys!
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I don't even know who is he or what he does.
then ask him or just read back a bit

he's doing what very few of us can imagine: risking his life and defending his own country. and not only that, but also europe. if ukraine falls, it's clear that russia won't stop there

what's happening in ukraine could potentially affect your life. don't ignore that, it's everyone's problem in europe
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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then ask him or just read back a bit

he's doing what very few of us can imagine: risking his life and defending his own country. and not only that, but also europe. if ukraine falls, it's clear that russia won't stop there

what's happening in ukraine could potentially affect your life. don't ignore that, it's everyone's problem in europe
This dude sounds like a sociopath- no empathy and ability to think about another person who is literally fighting for survival every day.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
33,884
Why is this happening though? Not clear to me if it's a Rus decision for some reason or western countries doing it for some reason
blocking communication during a parade with international leaders makes sense from russian pov. they probably had intel on potential attacks. or putler just shat his pants :boh:

anyway, just saw these




i get why europe doesn't want to escalate. but eu + ukraine is a stronger army compared to russia. it's just the willingness that is lacking, the firepower isn't.

and now it kind of makes sense why starmer agreed to that meaningless trade deal cosplay with donald. he did him a favor by posing with him for his first "major trade deal", now donald might be willing to turn on russia. i'll believe it when i see it - still this might be the beginning of something more tolerable from magaland than the previously taken "don't insult the kremlin, they might walk away" weak ass position
 

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