Russia - Ukraine Conflict 2022 (67 Viewers)

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,871
It displays perfectly how weak we are. Time to change, been saying that for years
nah, it's just the utter disrespect trump shows towards europe. he's not popular here so the giant baby is salty. and that's what probably putin suggested him anyway

zelenskiy already stated that he won't negotiate without europe. he knows that they have zero chance against putin and his lapdog
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,064
It displays perfectly how weak we are. Time to change, been saying that for years
We need to start deporting immigrants out of EU asap. It is insane how much crime level went up. Every day Im reading another story of immigrants killing local folks. We have several 100k imigrants in Croatia and it is quickly affecting overall safety. Left has really screwed us over the last decade. No wonder we are witnessing rise of right wing extremists across EU. Balance needs to be found and not everyone let in.
 
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Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
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We need to start deporting immigrants out of EU asap. It is insane how much crime level went up. Every day Im reading another story of immigrants killing local folks. We have several 100k imigrants in Croatia and it is quickly affecting overall safety. Left has really screwed us over the last decade. No wonder we are witnessing rise of right wing extremists across EU. Balance needs to be found and not everyone let in.
I get where you are coming from, but the EU’s local population has been shrinking for years.. low birth rates, an aging workforce, etc. That’s why more people are moving to Europe. Blaming immigrants for crime is an oversimplification. The real issue is finding a balance between security, integration, and addressing population decline.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,330
We need to start deporting immigrants out of EU asap. It is insane how much crime level went up. Every day Im reading another story of immigrants killing local folks. We have several 100k imigrants in Croatia and it is quickly affecting overall safety. Left has really screwed us over the last decade. No wonder we are witnessing rise of right wing extremists across EU. Balance needs to be found and not everyone let in.
The fact that despite the data you feel like crime has drastically increased likely has the same cause as the rise of the far right: propaganda.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I get where you are coming from, but the EU’s local population has been shrinking for years.. low birth rates, an aging workforce, etc. That’s why more people are moving to Europe. Blaming immigrants for crime is an oversimplification. The real issue is finding a balance between security, integration, and addressing population decline.
I dont disagree that we need miggration but it needs to be kept under control and selective. Right now we are allowing everyone coming to Croatia and Id assume its similar in other EU countries. The capital here use to be very safe, and unlike in a lot of other countries you could walk during the nights without issues. This has changed over the last few years as more incidents are reported, girls being harassed, or people getting robbed.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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nah, it's just the utter disrespect trump shows towards europe. he's not popular here so the giant baby is salty. and that's what probably putin suggested him anyway

zelenskiy already stated that he won't negotiate without europe. he knows that they have zero chance against putin and his lapdog
Seriously, how do republicans deal with their strong man being a russia cocksucker?
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Seriously, how do republicans deal with their strong man being a russia cocksucker?
They think Putin is a tough guy and they like it. Cucks.

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That is until 2021. The bigest wave of immigration here started few years ago. Rapes are up 33% according to local sources. A country of 3.8m cannot allow +200k unskilled workers. This is just madness and there is no way to avoid safety issues with that much of an influx.
I agree that countries can’t have unchecked immigration. Especially when the immigrants don’t assimilate. It’s hard to hear and say but it’s true. Leadership needs to be tougher in getting people to assimilate imo, too much letting people act how they want, but it’s a fine line.

At the end of the day, most European countries would benefit from more immigration and more labor, but not if they let them free load and practice whatever religion however they want.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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They think Putin is a tough guy and they like it. Cucks.

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I agree that countries can’t have unchecked immigration. Especially when the immigrants don’t assimilate. It’s hard to hear and say but it’s true. Leadership needs to be tougher in getting people to assimilate imo, too much letting people act how they want, but it’s a fine line.

At the end of the day, most European countries would benefit from more immigration and more labor, but not if they let them free load and practice whatever religion however they want.
Thats exactly the issue. If you are immigrating to a country in search for job opportunities and securing better life for your family and are willing to assimilate and contribute to society, it is perfectly acceptable. It is a positive migration. People here were very open and accepting until a certain point. But if you are bringing and imposing your culture upon locals, terrorizing them, perception quickly changes. The problem is the lack of any screening process, weak leadership that listens to any silly directive coming from Brussels and the issues are brushed under the carpet which right wing extremists use to score points.

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The fact that despite the data you feel like crime has drastically increased likely has the same cause as the rise of the far right: propaganda.
Because its a misleading data. I live in a real world, walk the streets of capital, read the local news and reports of ministry of internal affairs. Crime has gone up and in districts with higher % of migrant work force the crime level has doubled.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,330
They’re fans of becoming cocksuckers and subservient to Putin just to OWN THE FUCKING LIBS
It's been so funny observing the brain trust move from hating Russia in the 90s, hating Islam in the 00s to hating woke in the 10s...and now because Russia and extreme Islamic governments hate thuh gays right wingoid westerners now love Russia and see common ground with Islam because "At least they're not woke" in the 20s.

My favourite thing about The New World Order is how it's long-scale agenda of 1000s of years keeps changing every decade or so now.

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Hopefully EU kicks US out of NATO before Trump does more damage, and us Canadians stick with the Euros. Would love if Canada joined the EU.

US can continue its descent into a banana republic by joining BRICS and turning it into UBRICS.
The USA would never join brics even though it would benefit them greatly.

It's more important to maintain the optical background which has been lain for years rather than to improve the lot of the citizens.
 
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nah, it's just the utter disrespect trump shows towards europe. he's not popular here so the giant baby is salty. and that's what probably putin suggested him anyway

zelenskiy already stated that he won't negotiate without europe. he knows that they have zero chance against putin and his lapdog
I agree Europe should sit at the table, it’s a European problem. We will have Europeans protecting the border in a few months

I hope that we finally realise that security doesn’t live in a vacuum. Europe needs to start thinking existential. We’re importing security from the US, energy from the US and Russia plus production from China.

Enough with moralism in Europe, deindustrialising because of climate, close mindedness about nucleair energy, compromising your own safety on defence will not help us and are horrible geopolitical decisions. We’ve wasted too much of our own bureaucracy having years full of negotiations about climate and migration, while neglecting the fundamentals of our own safety.

Also geographically it doesn’t even makes much sense, with the all the wars and the Arab Spring south of the continent and Russian aggression at the east.

In terms of normal information I think that the EU does a bad job, I’m sure that 99% of Europeans don’t even know the EU equivalent of Hegseth.

I’m happy to finally see that this realisation is arriving and hopefully manifesting soon in decisions.

I get where you are coming from, but the EU’s local population has been shrinking for years.. low birth rates, an aging workforce, etc. That’s why more people are moving to Europe. Blaming immigrants for crime is an oversimplification. The real issue is finding a balance between security, integration, and addressing population decline.
Yet we also need the address the current situation, people used to not get attacked with knife’s or attacked by cars in mass 15 years ago. That’s also a reality.
 

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