Ruh Row, Korean Conflict Brewing (3 Viewers)

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
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You really think it's as powerful as it was lets say 5-10 years ago? Now the Pakistani army is mostly full with corrupted soldiers and torn between the flaming west borders and the American bombings there while keeping an eye on the eastern border fearful of a second mumbai and another Indian anger. Not to forget the suicidal bombings that is now a habit in Pakistan more than it is in Iraq.
Even the Nuclear sites are under American control now with the excuse of Taliban coming out.

Musharraf, the dictator he was, ran the country better than anyone. At least he kept it together safe and most importantly united. And that what made of it a nation feared by many. While now it's a country broken by debt that the U.K's PM would order the Taliban militants to be confronted by the Pakistani army for a promise of aids.
 
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Bjerknes

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    There's a lot of gross underestimation around these parts.

    To say a third world war would "not happen" is quite a bit of hubris. If you follow trends, you can see the seedlings of a major war are starting to bud as we speak.

    And not to mention the fact that some seem heart-set on a war to kick-start the world economy, which is ridiculously foolish in this day and age.
     

    IrishZebra

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    Jun 18, 2006
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    To say a third world war would "not happen" is quite a bit of hubris. If you follow trends, you can see the seedlings of a major war are starting to bud as we speak.
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    Quite, It's very arrogant of me to analyse geopolitical events from a multipolar and non US-centric approach. What a douche I am. Certainly, the propensity of Wars in the world is so very much higher then at any time since 1945 and of the world powers are still aligned into binding alliances where China, India,America,the UK,France,Russia,Iran,Israel, Brazil and all the NATO and CSTO countries will be involved in a global conflict.

    Yep total hubris to suggest that won't happen :agree:
     
    Jan 3, 2010
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    Quite, It's very arrogant of me to analyse geopolitical events from a multipolar and non US-centric approach. What a douche I am. Certainly, the propensity of Wars in the world is so very much higher then at any time since 1945 and of the world powers are still aligned into binding alliances where China, India,America,the UK,France,Russia,Iran,Israel, Brazil and all the NATO and CSTO countries will be involved in a global conflict.

    Yep total hubris to suggest that won't happen :agree:
    It is to be honest. It won't happen overnight, but to say it will never happen..
     

    IrishZebra

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    Jun 18, 2006
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    You may think it arogance and that's your and anybody else's perogative but can you give me a plausible scenario for a global 'total war'?

    Before anything get's 'heated' I'm going to point out that I'm the type of person that sees 99% as certainty in anything non formulaic or quantifiable.

    I'm apparently 'grossly underestimating' the possiblity of WW3? what is this the fucking Reagan era?
     
    Jan 3, 2010
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    You may think it arogance and that's your and anybody else's perogative but can you give me a plausible scenario for a global 'total war'?

    Before anything get's 'heated' I'm going to point out that I'm the type of person that sees 99% as certainty in anything non formulaic or quantifiable.

    I'm apparently 'grossly underestimating' the possiblity of WW3? what is this the fucking Reagan era?
    I don't think you're grossly underestimating it. We're probably just wording our opinions in different ways. It's not likely to happen in the near future, but there is quite an explosive cocktail brewing, so I'd be inclined to say never say never.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    Dec 10, 2004
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    You really think it's as powerful as it was lets say 5-10 years ago? Now the Pakistani army is mostly full with corrupted soldiers and torn between the flaming west borders and the American bombings there while keeping an eye on the eastern border fearful of a second mumbai and another Indian anger. Not to forget the suicidal bombings that is now a habit in Pakistan more than it is in Iraq.
    Even the Nuclear sites are under American control now with the excuse of Taliban coming out.

    Musharraf, the dictator he was, ran the country better than anyone. At least he kept it together safe and most importantly united. And that what made of it a nation feared by many. While now it's a country broken by debt that the U.K's PM would order the Taliban militants to be confronted by the Pakistani army for a promise of aids.
    The military of Pakistan is almost entirely independent from the government of Pakistan and has been so for a very long time now. It's both a big flaw and a safety mechanism that keeps the balance in the country. For this reason the military is not affected by the current civilian government even though Musharraf is not in office anymore.

    This current war on terror that Pakistan is allied in has stretched out the army but that's because most of it is still stationed on the eastern front. I don't know where you're getting 'corrupted' fighters from...it's not like it's a ramped issue in the Pak Military.

    What sources do you have that say that Pak's nuclear facilities are defended by US soldiers? That's nonsense.
     

    IrishZebra

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    I don't think you're grossly underestimating it. We're probably just wording our opinions in different ways. It's not likely to happen in the near future, but there is quite an explosive cocktail brewing, so I'd be inclined to say never say never.
    I can certainly see a situation where there's A war everywhere in the world, but not a world war between all the regional and global powers.
     

    Nenz

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    North Korea warns it will meet war with 'all-out war'

    "Now that the puppet group challenged the DPRK [North Korea] formally and blatantly, the DPRK will react to confrontation with confrontation, and to a war with an all-out war," according the KCNA news agency.

    The news agency referred to South Korean leaders as a "group of traitors" and said they would experience "unheard of disastrous consequences" if they misunderstand North Korea's will.

    The response comes amid high tensions on the Korean peninsula, after Seoul blamed Pyongyang for the sinking in March of a South Korean warship. An official South Korean report has accused the communist North of firing a torpedo at the ship, killing 46 sailors.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, visiting Seoul on Wednesday, called the sinking "an unacceptable provocation by North Korea" and said the international community should respond.

    Also Thursday, the general staff of North Korea's military -- the Korean People's Army, or KPA -- said it was enacting new measures to deal with any "all-out confrontation."

    The steps would "retract all measures for providing military guarantees for the North-South cooperation and exchange, and the promise of a physical strike.

    "The KPA will make a prompt physical strike at the intrusion into the extension of the Military Demarcation Line under our side's control in the West Sea of Korea," the army said, according to the KCNA news agency.

    Pack your coat, we're going into nuclear winter.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    NKorea Accuses South of Faking Warship Sinking

    By SANGWON YOON
    Seoul, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea's powerful National
    Defense Commission accused South Korea on Friday of faking the
    sinking of a warship for which Pyongyang has been blamed and
    warned that the Korean peninsula was heading to "the brink of
    war."

    The comments were similar to other recent pronouncements
    but were made at a news conference, which is an extremely rare
    occurrence for the commission, the most powerful organ in the
    North and which is chaired by leader Kim Jong Il.

    :lol:
     

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