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[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
Actually your example of movie is not good, cause Black Hawk Down is one of my favs movies and plus: brilliant movie

That was the one thing i was shocked about when i read your profile!!

....and i thought you had good taste

......anyhow, i'm not gonna argue with you Vit.....i like you too much to even dare piss you off

 

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[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


That was the one thing i was shocked about when i read your profile!!

....and i thought you had good taste

Oh yes I do :cheesy:
That's why I like it

......anyhow, i'm not gonna argue with you Vit.....i like you too much to even dare piss you off

Nooooo, you wouldnt piss me off, I'm not easy to piss off
And somehow, you just cant piss me off


Ermm.... wait, what I'm saying...
Actually you pissed me off once :groan:
I bet you remember when

 

[Dragon]

tell us when!

 

[vitoria_Ally]

Wait, I'm curious, if Majed remembers

 

[Anders]

lol... even this thread is going off topic This is stupid.

 

[Ivy]

ok, i hv to say i agree mostly with all that Vit, Fabiana and the 1st part of -S- posts. ( not just cos they r gurls, i've read through all the posts and these r the 1's that made the most sense to me.

To Iulia and Gray, no worries, i diddn't take anything personally. This guy Ian seams to want heated arguments so i just try to be less nice. Thank u both 4 yr concern.

As for Ian, i'm afraid i guess i share diff opinion from u. I understand the 'passion' that u want and i agree that dissagreements r gd. It is exciting to hv a clash of opinions. But the part where i dun connect with u is why do these hv to 2 get people pissed off? U almost seam to want the rage more than u want the challenge/ discussion. For me i can hv such arugments with people but i use gd points to back up my opinion and i can do it just s well in a calm way. i dun need to get heated up abt things. For me, rage doesn't =passion. Just b cos u're willing to throw a buch of unpleasent insults @ yr opponennt doesn't prove to say that u r the biggest Juve Van, the biggest Van Der Sar fan or whatever point yr trying to prove.

If after that u still dun get what i'm saying, well just read this thread again. Dun u see that that there r many people here who can put their piont up strongly without blowing their top? Do u see that some times the angry things that people say : eg. stupid gurls!, instead of showing yr 'passion' just makes u look really nearrow minded (when u r not) n thus not worth hving any further convo with? Hv u considered that this might b a reason why some people just dun bother to answer u? What the point if 1/2 yr posts r unpleasent insults? I'm here to challenge yr point of view not challenge who's fiercer.

S i've said, i agree with the main point of yr thread. The lack of passion, the spaming, but they way u r going abt this ain't going to solve zilch IMHO. Y? cos this world consists of may different personalities and u're is just 1 of them. Some of u say that the gurls who talk too much rubbish and should start a chat or something for those who think the same as them and all that.....well u're not wrong, but then again, same to u. U're living in the world of heated arguments and past posters. This forum ain't just abt u and the people who r in yr click n think like u, so trying to ask every 1 to do this.

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
i think we're going off-topic a bit, so out of respect for Ian (and that fact that he's finally making sense ), please reply dont reply to this

Reply reply reply <-- maybe that'll start some conflict

How ironic that the "complain about topics going off-topic...has gone off-topic"

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++


Reply reply reply <-- maybe that'll start some conflict

How ironic that the "complain about topics going off-topic...has gone off-topic"

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by fabiana-juve ] ++
maybe walu ex should be unbanned so he heats up things again

Hmmm I guess it's a bit different though, what these guys are looking for is heated, intelligent, logical discussions about things which are actually feasible to debate, and his arguments were definitely not debateable, he was just an idiot spewing forth his verbal diaorrhea.

 

[Hydde]

:stress:

I didnt wanted to reach this point in the topic...im talking about the insults. IN that way we will reach nothing.

All i want is to make those people focus more on the soccer matters. Like sunshine said, is not a matter of get pissed off, is a matter of interest about what means to be in this forum, and is to talk about juve MAINLY, and not about kisses and hughes everywhere. If you want to debate it will be your problem. But if you will not talk about juve as a soccer team, and contribute with the forum (as some good female posters do) please, it will be better to say nothing.

(oh gray im not talking about your post referring to walu ex, hehe thats is suimplay the truth what you said )

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++
Wait, I'm curious, if Majed remembers

i dont remember....but that's only because i never intended to piss you off.

I've pissed of a lot of people with some of my comments, but 95% of the time i dont even mean to.


but i'm sure i'll remember if you give me a hint...

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++


Hmmm I guess it's a bit different though, what these guys are looking for is heated, intelligent, logical discussions about things which are actually feasible to debate, and his arguments were definitely not debateable, he was just an idiot spewing forth his verbal diaorrhea .

:LOL: :LOL:

well said! :thumb:

 

[Ivy]

Sori to double post but my com is hanging like everty other min and i ain't done yaking yet!

Abt the "Buffon girls" we'll i'm 1 of them and whatever other bad names u may call them. (not that i see any reason to call them such cos there r nice girls and not so nice girls in those threads,n i'm sure u know this)..... what can i say... poor nice girls...... once again.... u're anger is making this bunch of u look alot more narrow minded than u really r. I'm 1 of them, not cos any of u call me a Buffon girl, but cos i would call myself 1. I surpport this guy and i'm a fan of his. What should i classify u as then ...... the Dp guys? or somehting?

N i think that some of u r really biased abt this. U're not using yr common sense with regard to this....... u're just like...... oh...THAT thread...... and everthing there forth is condemed.

Eg. Whats up with the mass deletion of the pics in buffon gallery?

I know that thread may hv pissed alot of people off and there r just to many pics in it. But....... Read the thread tittle...."buffon's Gallery" IMHO it ain't any wrong to hv such a thread in a juve forum....... so what's a gallery if u just delete half the pics?

I'm not unreasonable and i may be new, but i can see that there hv been non-buffon pics, repeated pics and alot of other stuff that is potentially causing lack of space.

Question to u is why diddn't u just scan the damn forum and just delete what should not hv been there..... like meaningless posts and the kind of pics i entioned above? If u go there now and u read the picture titles of some of the deleted pics.... man..... some of them to me r real precious...... pics of his Serie A debut, Nt debut these things happened a long time ago and pics s such r hard to find now. Also some r fan pics..... these will be even harder to find....... now these r all gone........ what can i say........ poor newbie's..........

So...... was this done out of fustration? Was this done cos it's 1 of the "buffon' threads? Pls tell me this wasn't a biased move.


control of this these threads.,,,, well i'm seeing so much whining here and so little effort......

most of these girls i believe will listen if u were to write to them personally and explain yr point. Those that don't....... well if u just ignore them, they will just end up talking to themselves. Once again.... no point adding fuel to fire.......

 

[Ivy]

and Vit.... i think u're doing a great job @ the new forum thank u








do i need to appologise for being to soft now



Also........ i've said this earlier.... i'm here to learn..... so instead of discriminating people for their lack of football knowledge (eg, some r classifying certain girls s not knowing anything abt football).....teach me, let me learn...... and i'll argue with u until yr hair turns white!

 

[Hydde]

++ [ originally posted by Sunshine ] ++
Sori to double post but my com is hanging like everty other min and i ain't done yaking yet!

Abt the "Buffon girls" we'll i'm 1 of them and whatever other bad names u may call them. (not that i see any reason to call them such cos there r nice ..........

Well sunshine, im thinking that this post is not referring to me, because as far as i know, i have never ever insulted a single girl form the Buff forum, or invented some nick t the group.

Im trying to develop this thread in a logically way without pointless insults that will sent out to nowhere.

But as far i have read, it has gone in the wrong way :stress:

BTW is good that you are taking the point . at least you got the message.

 

[Ivy]

No Hyde ...... i dun pin point any person for this...... i dun even remeber who has said it. I only know that i've seen such comments.

I belong to the softies grp that fights opinions, not people.

And if i sound pissed to u in these post, it's not that i take them personally. I dun care much for myself. I mainly unhappy cos things/people ain't justified.

 

[Hydde]

They are justified in some way, because there is a problem and you know that

 

[Ivy]

Yes, u r right , there is a problem and i do know that. Just that i dun feel it's being handeled/treated right. I mean i dun like the state that some things are in either.

But some r just asking for too much. Or taking it too far..... just like the calling names thing i had mentioned. Surely not every1 there deserves to be called that. Too many pics? U r making it seam as if every poster ther is responsible for it....... but again not true. Read what fabinana said, the ranting and raving over people is very natural, just that it seams to hv gone way too far now.




On a different note....... all this pissing off and agression...... in a way its actually making things worse and it ain't helping @ all. For eg, i'm a girl who doesn't know the world abt football.... but i am intersted and i can make sensible points. And often i hv different opinion from others. ....... Now let me ask u this...... if the posts in the football forums r as sgressive as what Ian is asking for...... do u think it's any incentive for me to post my simple minded replies? No..... it's a deterent. So here's something to ponder..... U're complaining that some girls come to this Juve forum and talk rubbish...... ok.... fair enough...... Would u like to change that? would u like to retain the girls and have them speak sense instead..... talk to u abt the game..... give their views and opinions although they may not be as technical/ sophisticated as yours? That would be nice wouldn't it. But this kind of attitude will not help that to happen. Instead u'r just slaming a door. How many times hv i pondered a question/ opinion just to keep my mouth shut and not post cos i dun want such or hostility thrown at me. Sometimes u complian so much that a person knows nuts but when this person asks a sincere question...... basic as it may be..... do people help to answer them? Or laugh @ them...... how do u expect this person to know anything but nuts like this? @ times this forum can be very intimidating...... sometimes u're just stifeling the oinions that will make convo's richer.

 

[Hydde]

++ [ originally posted by Sunshine ] ++
Yes, u r right , there is a problem ....

....Would u like to change that? would u like to retain the girls and have them speak sense instead..... talk to u abt the game..... give their views and opinions although they may not be as technical/ sophisticated as yours? That would be nice wouldn't it.

Yeaaaah!! thats exactly what i want!!. For that is what im aiming for!.

I totally understand that as i dont know everything about soccer, is natural for the girls to know less. But im not waiting for every one in this forum to do a bible of knowledge each time they post, because NO ONE here knows all about soccer.

But, i dont like the "I dont care" position of some, that never, have never talked something about the team itself, without being biased in fanatism of a player. That is what im searching, for that change.

Maybe this interest in what really matters, will do a balance with our other problem that has deviated in some way the forum itself.

 

[Ivy]

thank u hyde..... u dun know how much yr agreement means to me...... scared little girl

and yeah, i dun fancy the.... no interst, i only want to rave abt my guy attitude some girls have.



but i also must point out to u there's no absolute. I think it would be quite hard to find a girl who would just like only the game and feel nothing abt the players. Myself, i'm half of each, i'm interested in everything u guys r, but @ the same time, dun expect me to deny that i like people. I hope that at least some of u can find some reason in this.