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awit

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Jan 10, 2010
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As much as i dislike our board, you can't really place all the blame on them if we can't get a wc coach for the next season. This isn't 2005 and if only mediocre coaches are willing to coach us there really isn't much that the board can do.
 

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
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ofcourse , I agree that many coaches isent up there.. but we had coaches like Ferrara(love him but he never coached before ffs) Ranieri,Zaccheroni..

I would accepted if we got a coach like Prandelli or Riijkard or even Mancini.. Gasperini also,, but that we hire people like Zaccheroni and Ranieri sick sick stuff


Gasperini and Prandelli have done a good job with there teams, I would accept if our board gave them a chance to train Juventus.. Riijkard and Mancini are not topclass but they have won titles and the play offensive footboll..
In the ideal world we would only be looking at the top end coaches, the hiddinks, mourinho's and capello's of the world. But we have to face facts and realise that we are not a top club anymore. Obviously our history is irreplaceable, but at the moment we are not in "europe's elite". So our chances of getting the most world class coaches are unlikely, we'll only get people who are linked with the club historically (capello & lippi) or the mid range coaches/up and comers. People like you have mentioned. Of all of these I think Mancini is the best option along with DD, after his recent achievements.

Mancini is appealing to me because he has an eye for good players. He signed people like Maicon, Cambiasso, Samuel, Chivu, Ibra, Julio Cesar etc for inter. Infact, very few of Mancini's transfers were poor business. The guy certainly has an eye for talent and thats something we def need.

Rijkaard is a difficult one, I dont really think he has the charachter to help us out in this situation. Not to mention his style of football would be too difficult to drum into our players

I really don't rate Capello equally high as Mourinho...
I dont see how you can say this, Capello is undoubtably one of the best, if not the best, in the business
 

Fellas

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Jun 13, 2005
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In the ideal world we would only be looking at the top end coaches, the hiddinks, mourinho's and capello's of the world. But we have to face facts and realise that we are not a top club anymore. Obviously our history is irreplaceable, but at the moment we are not in "europe's elite". So our chances of getting the most world class coaches are unlikely, we'll only get people who are linked with the club historically (capello & lippi) or the mid range coaches/up and comers. People like you have mentioned. Of all of these I think Mancini is the best option along with DD, after his recent achievements.

Mancini is appealing to me because he has an eye for good players. He signed people like Maicon, Cambiasso, Samuel, Chivu, Ibra, Julio Cesar etc for inter. Infact, very few of Mancini's transfers were poor business. The guy certainly has an eye for talent and thats something we def need.

Rijkaard is a difficult one, I dont really think he has the charachter to help us out in this situation. Not to mention his style of football would be too difficult to drum into our players

I agree with you, Mancini has done som very good deals, he appeals to me also, he buys good players and has a good eye for talent. He also plays a attacking minded footboll,

The minus is his bad relationship with us, he isent so popular with our fans.. but he admitted that he supported Juventus as a child :p
 

bump11

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Jan 28, 2010
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/06/rafael-benitez-liverpool-juventus-broughton

Rafael Benitez will hold further talks with the Liverpool hierarchy to resolve his future after both parties exchanged "issues of concern" at a meeting in London yesterday.

The Liverpool manager met the club's chairman, Martin Broughton, and managing director, Christian Purslow, as he ponders whether to accept an offer from Juventus. Benítez has been seeking assurances over Liverpool's search for new investment and spending power this summer, while Anfield officials wanted confirmation of the manager's intentions.

A club statement said: "We are pleased that the first of what is intended to be a series of meetings took place between the chairman, managing director and the manager Rafael Benítez. The meeting was constructive.

"The chairman shared his views about plans for the future of the club. There was an exchange of views and issues of concern to both the board and the manager which will either be addressed or be picked up on in future meetings."

Benítez met his lawyers in London and also Purslow and Broughton, the British Airways chairman who was installed at Anfield on 16 April to oversee the sale of the club by co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Two meetings between Benítez and Broughton, before recent games, had to be cancelled for logistical reasons. Broughton is expected to report the details of his meeting with Benítez to fellow board members. Benítez, who is under increasing pressure to give an answer on his future to the new Juventus president, Andrea Agnelli, will consider whether to continue as Liverpool manager. Benítez will not be able to divulge details of the meeting tomorrow as his customary Friday press conference has been postponed.
 

Fellas

Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
3,136
This board can't seem to get enything worldclass to our club
They got us Diego :mark: but it's not easy to shine when you have
Grygera De Ceglie
Poulsen Sissoko Melo

Diego

Iaquinta Amauri


In best case he had one or two offensive and creative players on the pitch with him.. Delpiero can always produce magic and is a smart player, Marchisio runs everywhere and is always a nice player offensive( if he only could shoot) Iaquinta is the worst creative player but he makes good runs ...

I would like to see Diego with a attacker like Torres or Aguero and wingers like Di Maria,Krasic, Özil, Silva,Hazard

Di Maria Diego Giovinco

Aguero


If we had this offensive with players making runs and playing creative footboll we would se the real Diego :)
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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In the ideal world we would only be looking at the top end coaches, the hiddinks, mourinho's and capello's of the world. But we have to face facts and realise that we are not a top club anymore. Obviously our history is irreplaceable, but at the moment we are not in "europe's elite". So our chances of getting the most world class coaches are unlikely, we'll only get people who are linked with the club historically (capello & lippi) or the mid range coaches/up and comers. People like you have mentioned. Of all of these I think Mancini is the best option along with DD, after his recent achievements.

Mancini is appealing to me because he has an eye for good players. He signed people like Maicon, Cambiasso, Samuel, Chivu, Ibra, Julio Cesar etc for inter. Infact, very few of Mancini's transfers were poor business. The guy certainly has an eye for talent and thats something we def need.


Rijkaard is a difficult one, I dont really think he has the charachter to help us out in this situation. Not to mention his style of football would be too difficult to drum into our players



I dont see how you can say this, Capello is undoubtably one of the best, if not the best, in the business
I have been persuaded by members on these boards that in Italy, its the sporting director who chooses the signings, not the manager. They are the Eyes for Talent, not the coach...so for those players, surely Inter's sporting director and scouts should take the credit, not mancini...or am i mistaken?
 

The Curr

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Feb 3, 2007
33,705
I have been persuaded by members on these boards that in Italy, its the sporting director who chooses the signings, not the manager. They are the Eyes for Talent, not the coach...so for those players, surely Inter's sporting director and scouts should take the credit, not mancini...or am i mistaken?
Yeah, Marco Branca.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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I have been persuaded by members on these boards that in Italy, its the sporting director who chooses the signings, not the manager. They are the Eyes for Talent, not the coach...so for those players, surely Inter's sporting director and scouts should take the credit, not mancini...or am i mistaken?
I'm not sure about the situation at Inter. I think they all have some say in it and contrary to the typical Serie A dealings Mourinho seems to be in charge of their transfer policy.
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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I'm not sure about the situation at Inter. I think they all have some say in it and contrary to the typical Serie A dealings Mourinho seems to be in charge of their transfer policy.
My understanding is that a manager has ideas of who he wants. he tells the sporting director, who tells him if its possible, and offers his own opinion, sends his scouts to keep tabs on the player...the other routine is this: the manager and sporting director discuss what is missing, then nail down what they need, not solely WHO they need...scout sent out, makes reports, a list of players who fit the bill and are viable transfers is given to the manager, who then discusses with the sporting director, how, if at all to, to proceed.

That is how I used to think it happened at all clubs. Not just in England, or in Italy...if this wasnt the case, then I am shocked that I have not heard any more often than in other leagues managers who have managed in italy, complaining after leaving a club that mr X signed these players, i didnt want them, the team went shit, its not my fault...I remember Didier intimating similar problems after he was shown the door, or left of his own accord.

The closer the sporting director is to the manager, the better. the wider his network of scouts/spies, the better.

But I really don't see the evidence of now or yesteryear, for the general consensus view that in Italy, transfers are decided by the sporting directors, not the manager.

When a sporting director has more say in squad personnel than the manager, he becomes more the manager than the manager...hohohooho! or something along those lines. That may be acceptable for Ciro...or very young coaches...or small name coaches going to big teams...but to proper managers, it is an untenable position, surely.

It can't be a case of 'we will give you a group of players...you make them win, allenatore'...or is it???
 
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