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Apr 17, 2009
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The game, I thought we played well on the whole had alot of posession but did nothing with it Ferrara is a idiot for not starting Candreva. The atmosphere was pumping even though the Curva Sud was shut. Roma brought alot of fans, they even spilled into the Juventus stands. Abit annoyed about the result but thankfully I left minutes before the second goal so I did not face a Roma backlash. I will try to get some pictures uploaded of where I sat. Me and Badass was going glass to glass with some Rome ultras.
That sounds so sweet. Can't wait till I get back over there in April.
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Wednesday 27 January, 2010
Blog: Benitez bemusement
It seems that Rafael Benitez cannot inspire Liverpool. Steve Wilson wonders why on earth Juventus think he could do any better for them



In case Juventus hadn’t noticed Rafael Benitez is not doing a great job as Liverpool manager at present. The Anfield Reds are a club that demand success and feel that they have, based on their proud history, the right to demand a place at the peak of the English game. Sounds a bit like Juventus’ mentality. However, Benitez has yet to deliver the real prize the Merseyside fans crave, so why do the Bianconeri board think he could deliver what they want?

Sure, Benitez won the European Cup in 2005 – and against an Italian side, perhaps explaining his inflated reputation on the peninsula. Sure, he took them back to the Final in 2007. However, in his spell at Liverpool you can only really pinpoint one season in which the club looked serious title contenders. A Juve boss has to deliver that again and again and again. Giovanni Trapattoni, Marcello Lippi – these are the men who must be emulated.

In some ways a Juventus swoop for Benitez is an ideal scenario – for everyone but the Italians. Benitez is able to start afresh elsewhere and avoid the ignominity of being only the second Reds manager axed after Don Welsh. Liverpool can get rid of him without having to go against the fans with a P45 and without paying him off with money they cannot afford. Juve? They get a boss who is struggling under pressure and who evidently needs money to work with.

Rafa’s complaints have been that the Liverpool money-men have not given him anything recently. Nevertheless, after the last transfer window had shut the Spanish tactician had paid out a whopping £229m on players. It is unlikely that Juventus’ bean-counters could find the funds to match that kind of spending. And whatever happened to actually coaching the players you have? Anyone can continually complain that their puzzle is missing a final expensive piece.

The Old Lady have a boss in place, Ciro Ferrara, who is finding it hard to live up to the expectations of the fans and officials – why replace him with the equivalent figure in English football? It would be like Siena axing Alberto Malesani only to bring in Gary Megson. This season is fast becoming a write-off for Juventus, better to hold firm with Ciro and see who becomes available in the summer post-World Cup than to axe him now and hire a carbon copy.

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pretty much what I already said...
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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pretty much what I already said...
Thats stupid. Like saying why did Chelsea appoint Ancelotti when he's failed with Milan last years and haven't won the league in years. Benitez is a good coach and with some signings and if he can motivate a few of our players then he'll be good for the job.
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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I am with you on this one Vinman, totally. Its not just that I despise Benitez as a man, for his lack of class and decency, its moreso, his lack of management talent, both tactically, motivationally, and in the transfer market, which makes me sick at the thought of him being our manager. I hope its all nonsense rumours...Because I have ONLY seen a decent liverpool outfit under Benitez when Gerrard, Alonso, Torress play well. Never the TEAM AS A WHOLE...also, his triumph and near miss in the champions league have been by far the luckiest of any manager I have known.

We need and deserve far better than an arrogant spanish goon whose feathers are ruffled far too easily and who buys 10 wretched players for every 1 decent player...

It astounds me that there is actual support for this move from people who say they support Juventus...they are merely supporting the continued demise of our once great club, in my heart and mind at least.

Ultimately...why the hell should we bring in a FAILING MANAGER to replace a FAILING MANAGER?
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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What do you think of him Aaron ?
As a manager I think he's great at his best and at his middle or worst, he's very bad. He's kind of a hit or miss guy, great in big games but forgets to watch tape of the little teams. If he could build consistency in his team selection and mentality he'd be the best in the world.

People tend to exaggerate his transfers. It's hard to consider players like Sissoko, Cisse, Luis Garcia, Peter Crouch and Xabi Alonso as flops even though they are not all still at the club. I think a fault of Rafa's is that he doesn't give these guys enough time to settle at the club; ex. Robbie Keane, Mark Gonzalez.

As a person I think he actually cares about the future of the club, just looking at his face after a tough loss tells me this. He's brought in youngsters and our youth teams have done very well on their own right with a few of their graduates now training with the first team.

I think Rafa made one mistake this season and that was not replacing Xabi Alonso(directly, I think Aquilani can be a very good signing for us, but he was obviously a vision for the future with Lucas expected to be the present). That coupled with massive injuries to the squad (mostly our best players) has made this a very tough season. Especially with the amount the midtable teams have come along in the last two seasons (the EPL's top eight is probably better than the top 8 in any other league).

I don't see the point in firing Rafa until the season is sorted out, especially while we are gaining momentum in the Prem (5 games undefeated streak). Unless of course someone else gets him, which is out of the club's hands if should go.
 

Eddy

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Aug 20, 2005
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As a manager I think he's great at his best and at his middle or worst, he's very bad. He's kind of a hit or miss guy, great in big games but forgets to watch tape of the little teams. If he could build consistency in his team selection and mentality he'd be the best in the world.

People tend to exaggerate his transfers. It's hard to consider players like Sissoko, Cisse, Luis Garcia, Peter Crouch and Xabi Alonso as flops even though they are not all still at the club. I think a fault of Rafa's is that he doesn't give these guys enough time to settle at the club; ex. Robbie Keane, Mark Gonzalez.

As a person I think he actually cares about the future of the club, just looking at his face after a tough loss tells me this. He's brought in youngsters and our youth teams have done very well on their own right with a few of their graduates now training with the first team.

I think Rafa made one mistake this season and that was not replacing Xabi Alonso(directly, I think Aquilani can be a very good signing for us, but he was obviously a vision for the future with Lucas expected to be the present). That coupled with massive injuries to the squad (mostly our best players) has made this a very tough season. Especially with the amount the midtable teams have come along in the last two seasons (the EPL's top eight is probably better than the top 8 in any other league).

I don't see the point in firing Rafa until the season is sorted out, especially while we are gaining momentum in the Prem (5 games undefeated streak). Unless of course someone else gets him, which is out of the club's hands if should go.
Oh word yo. Would you want him to go to Juve ?
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Oh word yo. Would you want him to go to Juve ?
Let me put it this way. I could care less if he joined Juve (from a Juve perspective). I don't wish him to leave Liverpool. :D

At the same time I'd rather him be successful at Liverpool than not successful.
 

Lo-Pan

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Feb 11, 2009
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Rafa's not an arrogant Spanish goon. He's actually a pretty nice guy. :lol:
He has always struck me as a prize prick, who gets red faced and irate with others, before ever focusing on his own misgivings. I don't want that at Juve. I guess, if the truth be made ultra clea, i am simply not keen on the spanish, in general...or the portuguese for that matter. When it comes to footballing matters...I quite like torres, and also puyol, and also cassilas, and that mad bastard Nadal...Also Hierro was a fine player, but the rest of them, i despise...this may have much to do with the fact that one of my closest brotherly friends is a dirty spaniard, and its hard for me not to see his face in all spanish people. CHildish, rather narrow minded, but honest.
 

Wahdan

Ace of Spades
Mar 14, 2009
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Here we go again...

Blanc to fly today to meet Benitez to convince him to take over now. If he failed he will discuss a June deal.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Benitez will be better than Gentile/Zacc/Ciro,but he wouldn't be the best option.
worse than Ciro is yet to be seen but I`m not sure he will be better than Gentile and Zacc
altough I rate him more than those two (not that I rate him that high)
We need a type of manager the winning type Benitez might won the CL with Liverpool (with less talent and with lots of referee errors and luck) but he never impressed me in the EPL never really fighting for the championship altough I admit their team has less quality players than their rivals but still I never saw any improvement in their game
Zaccheroni well don`t know why is he mentioned as I don`t remember him as a coach the only thing I remember is that he likes the 4-3-3 which could suit our current selection of players
Gentile well he won the under 21 tournament in 06 but lets face it Italy were big favourites back then and he also won the bronze in the olympics which is not bad at all, BUT senior teams are different than youth teams and on senior level does he has any experience and also it is being said on Football Italia that he would probably use the 4-4-2 do we have enough wingers to play that?

anyway don`t know who will be caretaker but at the end of the season I want someone way better than Benitez! I want someone who can bring us some glory
 
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