++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
I think one of the great modern tragedies of our time is that spiritual beliefs and modernity are considered incompatible, when in reality that's complete horse*&$#%.
The core problem is that the visible thought leaders of any religious influence today are entirely of an anti-progressionist bias, so what we end up with are terrorists steeped in a mutant Islamic fundamentalism, anti-science fundamentalist Christians steering the religious agenda, etc. And at the same time, the only people left as visible advocates for science and modern, rational thought are positioned as anti-religious agnostics or atheists. There are people on both sides of the spectrum who like it this way, however.
It almost seems as if there is no rational place for a person of any kind of faith to have beliefs consistent with modern society, science, and progressive thinking, which is completely bogus. I hate a society that has to roll back the centuries in order to feel life has a spiritual meaning. And I hate a society that is convinced that progressive thought can only come about in a spiritually bankrupt world.
I don't know what's going to change it, but I cannot see this condition sustaining for very long.
Top post as usual; thank you Greg.
I don't have much time to spend on these forums (in fact I'm writing this during a lecture on my laptop using the uni's wireless internet) so I can't really ramble on about religious issues like I used to...
This is a bit of a tangent, but let me briefly introduce you to a psychological principle I learned about called the "availability heuristic", which basically states that people tend to form judgments based on what's immediately in front of/available to them.
For example, from the following pairs, choose the one you think causes more deaths in the US each year.
Lung Cancer vs Motor Vehicle Accidents
Emphysema vs Homicide
Tuberculosis vs Fire and Flames
Now look at the following stats:
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[b]Cause People's Choice Annual US Totals Newspaper reports / year[/b]
Lung Cancer 43% 140,000 3
Car Accidents 57% 46,000 127
Emphysema 45% 22,000 1
Homicide 55% 19,000 264
Tuberculosis 23% 4,000 0
Fire and Flames 77% 7,000 24
Where the hell are you going with this, Graham?!
What I'm trying to show is that people tend to overestimate the significance or prevalence of certain things/events depending on the amount of exposure they receive on a day-to-day basis
You still haven't gotten to the $@%ng point
Okay, here's what I'm saying...
You hear reports of Catholic priests molesting young children; you see Christian fundamentalists bashing people over the head with their Bibles; you hear about people killing innocent civilians in the name of their religions... but ask yourself for a moment... what percentage of religious people in the world do these people make up?
You never read newspaper articles about Christians (for example, since I'm a Christian myself) feeding and clothing the poor and caring for orphans, or even those who practise their faith without trying to impose their beliefs/lifestyle on others. But the reality is that a huge majority of Christians (or religious people in general) aren't in the same group as the child molesters/terrorists etc.
All I'm saying is that maybe people shouldn't make generalisations based on the handful of people who completely misrepresent the religions they claim to practise.
"Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ." - Ephesians 4:15
Just so you know, bashing people over the head with your Bible isn't a part of the Christian doctrine.