He should work more on his defensive properties if he is to excel in his defending attacker position.
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So we played like this:
---------------Higuain
---------------------------Dybala
Mandžukić------------------------------no one
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It makes no sense. How is Bernardeschi in positions to take shots all the time?
He's not a midfielder, stop with that. He plays deeper than his first season and needs to move more and run and sacrifice more. But no one is saying he should still be scoring tons of goals. The criticism is he's offering nothing else, he's pouting, falling down, zero effort. That's on him.
If he was truly THAT good as people make him to be, he would be able to make a stamp on the game in other ways. Some of the best games he had were when he scored no goals but made tons of runs, dribblings, switching the play, orchestrating everything in the final third. He has the talent and has the ability to be so much more than just around the box player. He doesn't want to.
And he doesn't respond well to adversity. Last year he had that amazing start, Barcelona game came, media immediately made comparisons with Messi again because he was scoring so much. He had a horrible game, could barely get his shots to the GK and never went back rest of the year. Now Ronaldo comes and instead of using that as drive to prove himself he does the opposite.
---------------Higuain
---------------------------Dybala
Mandžukić------------------------------no one
?
It makes no sense. How is Bernardeschi in positions to take shots all the time?
He's not a midfielder, stop with that. He plays deeper than his first season and needs to move more and run and sacrifice more. But no one is saying he should still be scoring tons of goals. The criticism is he's offering nothing else, he's pouting, falling down, zero effort. That's on him.
If he was truly THAT good as people make him to be, he would be able to make a stamp on the game in other ways. Some of the best games he had were when he scored no goals but made tons of runs, dribblings, switching the play, orchestrating everything in the final third. He has the talent and has the ability to be so much more than just around the box player. He doesn't want to.
And he doesn't respond well to adversity. Last year he had that amazing start, Barcelona game came, media immediately made comparisons with Messi again because he was scoring so much. He had a horrible game, could barely get his shots to the GK and never went back rest of the year. Now Ronaldo comes and instead of using that as drive to prove himself he does the opposite.
People just want to scapegoat Allegri for everything. Nothing else to see here really.
It’s quite amusing how many people give Dybala and others a total pass for the shit performances and appalling attitudes they displayed on the pitch this season.
Allegri had a poor season in many ways imo, but that doesn’t excuse Dybala or Costa (or even Mandzukic after Christmas) for performing like rubbish.
It’s quite amusing how many people give Dybala and others a total pass for the shit performances and appalling attitudes they displayed on the pitch this season.
Allegri had a poor season in many ways imo, but that doesn’t excuse Dybala or Costa (or even Mandzukic after Christmas) for performing like rubbish.
Nah. IMO isn’t. He’s an old-fashioned SS.
I don’t believe he has the pace, touch, or athleticism to be a modern #9, especially at a CL contending side.
To be fair to him, our shit midfield helped wreck his season entirely. No one can bring the ball forward out of midfield, so Dybala ends up almost entirely responsible for it, which is nonsense. The only thing with Dybala that annoys me is his attitude.
However, I’d still like him to stay, and get back to being the fantastic player we all know he is, playing in a partnership up front.
I don’t believe he has the pace, touch, or athleticism to be a modern #9, especially at a CL contending side.
To be fair to him, our shit midfield helped wreck his season entirely. No one can bring the ball forward out of midfield, so Dybala ends up almost entirely responsible for it, which is nonsense. The only thing with Dybala that annoys me is his attitude.
However, I’d still like him to stay, and get back to being the fantastic player we all know he is, playing in a partnership up front.
Dybala is a good player but to me he lacks something mentally. He seems to under-deliver in too many big games and is not very consistent in general.
Talk of a swap with Salah? I would be all for that to be honest.
Dybala is the kind of player who performs best when given a very specific role - such as a support striker in a front 2. He played his best games playing off Mandzukic in a front 2. I get the feeling he plays well in that kind of situation. He didn't seem to do as well as often when partnered with Higuain even in a front 2.
That game against Barcelona in 2017 I thought was the sign he came to the big leagues but he never lived up to that ever again.
I don't think he is suited to a front 3 with Ronaldo either. Salah on the other hand is much more versatile and has shown he regularly shows up for big games.
I still have a soft spot for Dybala but I think he is one of those players who needs to go as he is has flopped too often on the big stage and Juve simply don't have time to keep waiting for him.
Talk of a swap with Salah? I would be all for that to be honest.
Dybala is the kind of player who performs best when given a very specific role - such as a support striker in a front 2. He played his best games playing off Mandzukic in a front 2. I get the feeling he plays well in that kind of situation. He didn't seem to do as well as often when partnered with Higuain even in a front 2.
That game against Barcelona in 2017 I thought was the sign he came to the big leagues but he never lived up to that ever again.
I don't think he is suited to a front 3 with Ronaldo either. Salah on the other hand is much more versatile and has shown he regularly shows up for big games.
I still have a soft spot for Dybala but I think he is one of those players who needs to go as he is has flopped too often on the big stage and Juve simply don't have time to keep waiting for him.
This is litterally all we are saying in a nutshell, his attitude has been in part shit, and he had problem adjusting to adversity even we he was killing for us regurarly (his CL performances were mediocre in tough games except for a couple), but despite the poor quitter body language or attitude, we cannot blame him for most of it simply because he is so severely played out of position and is indirectly victim of and blamed for the severe flaws of the midfield or Allegri's weird tactics.
Play him in a natural role and dont overtask him with the midfield duties, get players who do that instead. It shouldnt be complicated.
But I dont think it will work out enough aslong as Allegri is coach, this midfield remains, and he insists on Mandzukic starting and keeps misusing Dybala just to try to balance this shitfest of a set up currently.
You must have been watching a Juventus in an alternate dimension. Tell me, did we win the CL there? 
I might have dreamt it or maybe hallucinated but I thought I read someone post yesterday that Dybala was our player of the season last season.
Just...lol. Maybe if the season was from August until September.
Unfortunately this decline is 12-15 months long, with the occasional bit of quality. That's not what you expect from a top player, and it's a sign of mental fragility.
I'm not a fan of looking at stats but it is quite startling when you see where his goals came. The only big teams he scored against - if you can call them big teams - for part of his 20+ goals were Milan and Lazio, and in the CL there was one goal against Spurs. This year he has one against Man Utd and Milan, in a barren season. This is a player who shines against smaller teams, but that has declined with his drop in the pecking order and questionable role.
I just don't think we're ever going to see the player we hoped for, regardless of where he plays. It's a stick-or-twist situation. Do we give him another season, how long do you persevere? Yeah, probably another season. Blame Allegri all you want but Dybala is responsible for Dybala, at Juve you roll your sleeves up.
Just...lol. Maybe if the season was from August until September.
Unfortunately this decline is 12-15 months long, with the occasional bit of quality. That's not what you expect from a top player, and it's a sign of mental fragility.
I'm not a fan of looking at stats but it is quite startling when you see where his goals came. The only big teams he scored against - if you can call them big teams - for part of his 20+ goals were Milan and Lazio, and in the CL there was one goal against Spurs. This year he has one against Man Utd and Milan, in a barren season. This is a player who shines against smaller teams, but that has declined with his drop in the pecking order and questionable role.
I just don't think we're ever going to see the player we hoped for, regardless of where he plays. It's a stick-or-twist situation. Do we give him another season, how long do you persevere? Yeah, probably another season. Blame Allegri all you want but Dybala is responsible for Dybala, at Juve you roll your sleeves up.