Paulo Dybala (186 Viewers)
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Well I think he was talking about drugs that either are doping or will be in the future 
.As for them taking drugs.. I don't know. Part of me says they have to be. Then again they're among the most tested athletes in the world (no one give me that bullshit about football players not being tested as much, Messi and Ronaldo are tested very regularly). I also believe that neither one of them is capable of incredible physical feats. They're both quick and jump high and stuff, but compare Ronaldo to Bolt and in terms of sheer speed it's nothing. They don't run exceptionally much during a game either, more to the contrary even.
There is one thing that stands out though: their tremendous recovery rate.
What are you talking about? Messi has had lots of muscular injuries, he's often been sidelined for 2-3 months because of thigh strains. And even if what you were saying was true, there are lots of other players who haven't had big injuries either. In fact, the vast majority of athletes don't get huge traumatic injuries and sometimes the ones that do, turn out to possibly have gotten them because of doping.
What makes people think of drugs with Messi and Ronaldo isn't their injury history, it's the fact they're always good to go after 2 days of recovery and seem to be in form year round.
What makes people think of drugs with Messi and Ronaldo isn't their injury history, it's the fact they're always good to go after 2 days of recovery and seem to be in form year round.
Na this wasnt form or anything to do with injuries or having nobody to play with. He was just having a bad day and played like shit. It was the simple things he did wrong. Siimple passes and touches were going wrong not to mention his awful miss. These things happen no need to look into it too much the talent is there and he is a bright kid. Just a shit day at the office.
People are overlooking just how good Fiorentina played too. They pressed the fuck out of us and done it so well. We werent in great shape physically or mentallg and we paid for it.
People are overlooking just how good Fiorentina played too. They pressed the fuck out of us and done it so well. We werent in great shape physically or mentallg and we paid for it.
I don't remember any huge injuries from Messi apart from him missing a few months at the beginning of last season, gotta take a look then. But I think it's all minor injuries that make him miss few games which i wouldnt classify as big injuries. Big injuries to me are those that make you miss all or majority of the season, like Jordan had in his sophomore year for the Bulls or Chamberlain in his 1st season with the Lakers. Ronaldo i do remember having some few months injuries, more from his Manchester days though and neither those would I classify as big (Ronaldo is the better athlete though).
And yes, their recovery speed is also not normal, i dont know how they do it but I certainly wouldn't exclude drugs and doping, especially with Messi (guy is a tax stealing criminal who got away with it for years, taking drugs should be easy for him)
And yes, their recovery speed is also not normal, i dont know how they do it but I certainly wouldn't exclude drugs and doping, especially with Messi (guy is a tax stealing criminal who got away with it for years, taking drugs should be easy for him)
There are plenty of players who are always fit and ready to play. Guys like Sanchez, Suarez and Lewandowski just a few examples. I'm pretty sure both Messi and Ronaldo have been injured more than these three for example. When it comes to recovery it has to be said that Messi actually runs very little in the Barca games which surely helps when recovering.
Take a look last seasons CL game against Atletico for example.
Metres covered by player
Atlético
Oblak 4,471
Juanfran 9,911
Godín 9,167
Lucas 8,936
Filipe 9,738
Gabi 11,824
saul 12,160
Koke 12,226
Augusto 11,431 (sub out 90+3 min)
Carrasco 9,855 (sub out 74 min)
Griezmann 11,417 (sub out 90 min)
Savic 0,275 (sub in 90+3 min)
Correa 0,672 (sub in 90 min)
Thomas 2,486 (sub in 74 min)
Barcelona
Ter Stegen 4,603
Alves 7,218 (sub out 64 min)
Piqué 9,802
Mascherano 8,612
Alba 10,995
Busquets 11,013
Rakitic 7,885 (sub out 64 min)
Iniesta 10,252
Neymar 9,134
Messi 7,049
Luis Suárez 9,130
Sergi Roberto 3,674 (sub in 64 min)
Arda 3,204 (sub in 64 min)
Take a look last seasons CL game against Atletico for example.
Metres covered by player
Atlético
Oblak 4,471
Juanfran 9,911
Godín 9,167
Lucas 8,936
Filipe 9,738
Gabi 11,824
saul 12,160
Koke 12,226
Augusto 11,431 (sub out 90+3 min)
Carrasco 9,855 (sub out 74 min)
Griezmann 11,417 (sub out 90 min)
Savic 0,275 (sub in 90+3 min)
Correa 0,672 (sub in 90 min)
Thomas 2,486 (sub in 74 min)
Barcelona
Ter Stegen 4,603
Alves 7,218 (sub out 64 min)
Piqué 9,802
Mascherano 8,612
Alba 10,995
Busquets 11,013
Rakitic 7,885 (sub out 64 min)
Iniesta 10,252
Neymar 9,134
Messi 7,049
Luis Suárez 9,130
Sergi Roberto 3,674 (sub in 64 min)
Arda 3,204 (sub in 64 min)
Such drugs exist, and they are very illegal naturally
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I strongly disagree with that. You tell me any injury and i'll tell you how illegal drugs can prevent it from happening or beeing much less serious.
Thing is, most of the drugs i will mention are exceptionally easy to detect.
Edgar Davids, is a massive hint in the best of the list.
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I strongly disagree with that. You tell me any injury and i'll tell you how illegal drugs can prevent it from happening or beeing much less serious.
Thing is, most of the drugs i will mention are exceptionally easy to detect.
Edgar Davids, is a massive hint in the best of the list.
That's a great list, but I doubt you were alive when Puskas, Di Stefano, and Eusebio were still kicking a ball. My dad was, and he assures me Zidane belongs in the Pantheon of greats. He has won everything there is to win at both club and international level, and had a huge impact in doing so. If you are going to include CR7, then you definitely have to include Zidane.