Paulo Dybala - ST - Palermo (29 Viewers)

[Pirlo's Beard]

We are already stacked in attack for next season, nunbers wise. Even if he was available for 20mill, can't see Beppe justifying the purchase.

Llorente, Morata, Zaza
Tevez, Coman
Berardi, Pereyra

Even that is one too many, without adding Dybala

Sure but that's grouping a bunch of 'attackers' together, but Gio is gone and only Tevez a number 10 type of player out of them. Dybala would be his hopeful replacement, the rest are wide forwards, 9s and in Comans case, probably a winger ideally.

 

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[Salvo]

It takes little to no effort to notice he is a better player then Zaza tho.

He is more talented, but Zaza, rightfully, being older has shown more.

 

[frick]

You seriously need to know the difference between clause and contract. Morata is under contract with us, we are his employers not them, he can reject them, it's Juve who can't reject Real If the figures in the clause are met.

Didn't he already signed a contract or something like that with Madrid which would be used if Madrid bought him back? Maybe that's what @j0ker meant, I thought so too as well but I'm not sure anymore.

 

[Nzoric]

Didn't he already signed a contract or something like that with Madrid which would be used if Madrid bought him back? Maybe that's what @j0ker meant, I thought so too as well but I'm not sure anymore.

I'm not sure if that is legal.

 

[Osman]

Didn't he already signed a contract or something like that with Madrid which would be used if Madrid bought him back? Maybe that's what @j0ker meant, I thought so too as well but I'm not sure anymore.

He re-signed his expiring contract with Real before he left (like a half a year or so before) to put them in better negotiation position when selling him. Made it easier to make bunch of demands like to the clauses and the 22m figure since he wasn't someone who was about to be out run down his contract anymore.

But it should be easy to get they sold him, don't own a single stake in him. Imo he won't go back to Real either.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

He doesn't have an agreement with Madrid, pretty sure it would be illegal to have 2 active contracts it would be a clusterfuck of a contract situation

long story short, if Madrid come knocking it's still up to him.

 

[Roman]

We are already stacked in attack for next season, nunbers wise. Even if he was available for 20mill, can't see Beppe justifying the purchase.

Llorente, Morata, Zaza
Tevez, Coman
Berardi, Pereyra

Even that is one too many, without adding Dybala

Imo:
-Llorente will be sold.

and could be something like this:

new AM*/ Berardi - Tevez/Dybala/Coman
Morata/Zaza

or

new AM*
Morata/Zaza- Tevez/Dybala/Berardi

But for me it's either Dybala(he's not coming imo) or Berardi.not both of them.
both will be way too expensive too have,and not talking about Coman,who better be loaned out really because he won't see the pitch.

And Dybala will cost us at least as twice as Berardi,i think Beppe and co will go for Berardi.

So i expect us to have something like this next year:

new AM*/ Berardi - Tevez/Coman
Morata/Zaza


*Mkhitariyan type of players who are able to play both in the hole and on the wings.

 

[frick]

He re-signed his expiring contract with Real before he left (like a half a year or so before) to put them in better negotiation position when selling him. Made it easier to make bunch of demands like to the clauses and the 22m figure since he wasn't someone who was about to be out run down his contract anymore.

But it should be easy to get they sold him, don't own a single stake in him. Imo he won't go back to Real either.

I'm not sure if that is legal.

He doesn't have an agreement with Madrid, pretty sure it would be illegal to have 2 active contracts it would be a clusterfuck of a contract situation

long story short, if Madrid come knocking it's still up to him.

Yeah, all could find is this AS article which says that contract he signed just before we bought him will come into effect when and if Madrid bought him back but it didn't say he had to accept Madrid's offer.

However, Madrid and Morata are now involved in their own negotiations: to thrash out a five year deal for the player that would come into effect if and when the Spanish club decide to bring him back.

This is a standard Real Madrid technique with their young players that are transferred out with a repurchase option. Some of the details of the contract are left open, such as the wages, which will depend on the performance of the player while at Juventus. Once this contract is agreed between Morata and Madrid, the transfer to Juventus can be finalised.

Anyway I doubt he'll snub Madrid for us, especially when they could offer higher wages.

 

[Valerio.]

Llorente will be gone for sure this summer.
I still hope we won't buy Zaza and leave us open for a better choice.
Berardi's a winger so if we get him we'll play with 2 wingers or we'll go for a revolutionary 3-3-4
Morata will be bought back else why making him sign a new contract when he could make a new one if they buy him back?and it's true that the clause start taking effect in 2016 summer but that doesn't mean Real Madrid can't come up to us and ask a favor (which we would do) and give him back 1 year before for a 30m sum.
Tevez is going in 2016 it's BETTER to buy now then being rip off when he leaves and the whole world will know we'll need a new top striker.

About the mercato it's all depend on how we are going to play next year if it's 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-3(2-1 doesn't change anything).

 

[TheLaz]

Bringing back Berardi seems a done deal already.

Dybala is the future top scorer of Serie A so he should be interesting to sign. It depends on how much Zamp would want, otherwise there are alternative moves.

Depay this summer and a direct Tevez replacement next summer.

Morata
Depay Tevez Berardi
Pogba Vidal​

 

[Post Ironic]

We won't be giving Morata back to Madrid unless he wants to go back, or unless he's not a 30 mil striker and for some strange reason they want him back anyways. If he succeeds here, there is absolutely no way we let him go back to Madrid unless he chooses that.

I would say the chances of us losing him this coming summer are slim-to-none. It's just not going to happen.

 

[j0ker]

You seriously need to know the difference between clause and contract. Morata is under contract with us, we are his employers not them, he can reject them, it's Juve who can't reject Real If the figures in the clause are met.

Then please enlighten me why they made him sign a new deal with them before he joined us?

The one who should seriously needs to know the rules are you.

 

[TheLaz]

We won't be giving Morata back to Madrid unless he wants to go back, or unless he's not a 30 mil striker and for some strange reason they want him back anyways. If he succeeds here, there is absolutely no way we let him go back to Madrid unless he chooses that.

I would say the chances of us losing him this coming summer are slim-to-none. It's just not going to happen.

Imagine if Morata move to Real next summer and Tevez to Argentina.

 

[Osman]

Then please enlighten me why they made him sign a new deal with them before he joined us?

The one who should seriously needs to know the rules are you.

They didn't make him, he wanted to, as sign of loyalty prolly. The sole reason they wanted to improve and prolong his contract was to sell him on better terms, as they did. Usually players who are leaving are disgruntled and don't want to help out the team they want to leave, but he wanted to leave on good terms.

What he signed before he was sold has NO RELEVANCE to us, because now we own him, he is our player, that contract they did doesn't exist because they sold him. Only thing it did was just strengthen their negotiating position, which they took advantage of with the gazillion bullshit clauses, because they could say we just renewed with him, not desperate to sell (when in reality it was agreed all along he was leaving) .

This is really not hard to get, just like how we prolonged and improved Pogba's contract to put ourselves in better position when suitors come asking for him.

 

[j0ker]

Except when we sell Pogba we won't have a buy back clause.

In any case the moment they come calling for him, he is gone.

 

[Osman]

No we wont have a buyback clause because it would be Pogba who wants to leave us, while for Real they didnt have any need or place for Morata so they sold him and were in the cocky position to put in any clauses they wanted, since they didnt need money to sell him and knew the player wants to come back if they need him, so they held all the cards really.

But IMO he wont go back to them, simply because I dont think the dynamics of playing time will change, they will find other players to sign and compete for starting position. Doubt he will be eager to return if they wont be that keen to give him enough playing time for him to want to go back, and leave a team where he is wanted. That is if he proves he is good enough to consistently perform for us, everyone here talks like thats a foregone conclusion. Plus Real would only consider to sign him back only if he proves to be 20-25+ goalscorer to booth.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

We should really buy Dybala.

 

[LiquidPLP]

We are already stacked in attack for next season, nunbers wise. Even if he was available for 20mill, can't see Beppe justifying the purchase.

Llorente, Morata, Zaza
Tevez, Coman
Berardi, Pereyra

Even that is one too many, without adding Dybala

Justifying Dybala's transfer is easy. Tevez leaves in 2016 and Dybala is surely seen as a player capable of replacing him in the SS role. We'll have to replace Tevez anyway and Dybala is definitely an occasion in Marotta's book. In the end we might not get him because of some other club offering silly money but as of right now he's definitely worth the interest.

IMO Llorente will be sold and it makes sense on many levels. He's not contributing to the team too much right now, it seems he doesn't suit Allegri's needs. He simply earns too much to be left on the bench and the last but not least we could earn money on his sale making his departure as 'green' in our books thanks to the fact we got him for free.

Coman's future is uncertain and he could be loaned out (maybe to Sass since we're bringing back Berardi? ). He's not a player Allegri is counting on that's for sure.

IMO it might be down to choice between Dybala and Zaza. I think a player like Dybala in current situation is an opportunity we have to take, definitely to try at least. We could get Zaza a year later still for 18m instead of 15m we'd have to pay this summer. It'll be easier in 2016 to bring back Zaza than actually find a proper Tevez's replacement.

 

[Scottish]

Morata
Coman Dybala Berardi​

Could this be our plan?

 

[Xperd]

Smokescreen for Vazquez