Paul Pogba - CM - Manchester United (97 Viewers)
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damn you. 8/10 troll
You're not to right to worry in the present situation and I also dont think its a coincidence, it is neccessity.
We've been trying to fix the CM position before but we had incompetent management (SEcco) and no appeal to players so we got it wrong. Its the most important part of the team (as we saw in our case this year) so there is nothing wrong in doing it over if you want to get it right. And this season we have got it very right (Vidal for 10 mil € was a masterpeice).
We found two tactics which suit our players and which work well for us, and both of them requiere three great midfielders. It is smart (competent even) to try to ensure we have enough quality and future prospects there. Asamoah (if he comes) is neccessary to provide rotation options as we'll have a lot of games. Veratti is neccessary so that we can keep a similar playing style for years to come, even after Andrea gets too old. That would provide some continuity to our team, instead of changing tactics every season. So even that is smart, and tbh the midfield positions are more important than a left back. If yoou had to choose between Vidal and a left back last season, who would you choose? And which woould be more useful for us?
Having said that, we will probably get a new left back/centre back as well as a new striker. everything points to it. It seems that we will have a decent budget and that with player sales we will be able to afford a new CM, RW (Isla probably), a good/great striker and a CB/LB. So really, there is no need to complain yet as the transfer window hasnt even opened yet.
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By that logic we have 25 CMs, because even Buffon could play there!
Appelt and Buoy are primavera players. Prospects yes, but a few years from making it into the first team. Pazienza and Melo will be sold, perhaps Padoin as well. Maronne might go on loan, Isla will be used on the right, veratti will stay at Pescara for another season... so that leaves us with at most 6 central midfielders, of which 2 are very young and inexpereinced.
Well put. This is our midfield situation.
I also sometimes shake my head at those who think that primavera players can be called upon for first team duties 'just like that'. The gap between primavera and Serie-A is huge. Marrone has been able to step up when called upon, but that's just a testament to how good a player he is. He is not the "norm". The norm is that you're a kid, you have promise, you play in the primavera, and then you go play in Serie-B or C. This Appelt kid, and even Buoy, no matter how "promising" they are, may actually never break into the first team. Being a promising youth player and being able to play in Serie-A are two entirely different things.
I also sometimes shake my head at those who think that primavera players can be called upon for first team duties 'just like that'. The gap between primavera and Serie-A is huge. Marrone has been able to step up when called upon, but that's just a testament to how good a player he is. He is not the "norm". The norm is that you're a kid, you have promise, you play in the primavera, and then you go play in Serie-B or C. This Appelt kid, and even Buoy, no matter how "promising" they are, may actually never break into the first team. Being a promising youth player and being able to play in Serie-A are two entirely different things.
somebody told me the same about marchisio and giovinco....the only big diference is if the club (juventus) wants to invest time and money in the kids....
i have the feeling that they will do it with appelt and probably pogba
not sure about the others....
anyway.... is a big chance to fail ...allways
i have the feeling that they will do it with appelt and probably pogba
not sure about the others....
anyway.... is a big chance to fail ...allways
lol, the reality is that it is really 'just like that'; what would've happened if juve didn't called del piero to the 1st team 'just like that' when juve at that time had the world best player? I think this is the wrong mentality that most big italian teams have today, they simply can't trust young and no name players 'just because it's not just like that'.
del piero case was the perfect example IMO, no matter how much potential del piero had, did any of you really believe at that time that he could replace THE WORLD BEST PLAYER at that time 'just like that' ??? think about it carefully, would any of you here today simply replace messi with someone that have potential but no recognition whatsoever? we aren't talking about replacing messi with neymar here, we're talking about replacing messi with no name guy (although indeed clearly talented) from smaller spanish club (to make a comparison with del piero's case)
but in the end, with del piero it happened 'just like that' wasn't it?
del piero case was the perfect example IMO, no matter how much potential del piero had, did any of you really believe at that time that he could replace THE WORLD BEST PLAYER at that time 'just like that' ??? think about it carefully, would any of you here today simply replace messi with someone that have potential but no recognition whatsoever? we aren't talking about replacing messi with neymar here, we're talking about replacing messi with no name guy (although indeed clearly talented) from smaller spanish club (to make a comparison with del piero's case)
but in the end, with del piero it happened 'just like that' wasn't it?
Del Piero was called up because he was more than just "promising". He had what it takes to cut it in the Serie-A (and then some). I'm not saying we should stand in the way of that. I'm only saying that a bunch of these kids with "talent", "ambition", who are "promising", and yada yada yada, don't necessarily have what it takes to make the step up. Del Piero had what it takes, Marchisio had what it takes, Marrone seems to have it, and there will be others. But the truth is that the majority of these kids DON'T have it. All I'm saying is that one shouldn't expect all of these promising players to cut through.
The reason I made that post was that I've read some comments here earlier: "But we have Appelt!" etc. Yeah, so what, we have Appelt.... who is not ready.
The reason I made that post was that I've read some comments here earlier: "But we have Appelt!" etc. Yeah, so what, we have Appelt.... who is not ready.
isn't that the goddamn truth? "seems", you can't simply guaranteed it, right? that's the reality isn't it? what's the point of buying/co owning many young players if in the end we just 'screw it, let's buy more mature backups/more quality CMFs'?
remember, these are not CMFs from our academy... they are bought here (I'm mainly talking about appelt, buoy, pogba here, and perhaps verratti soon)
and then add cronios' points there, on some points he was and still is right : we have so many CMFs come and go last few years but we did little to CB, LB and prima punta; and surprise surprise! our first new players will be 2-3 more CMFs...
RVP and LB/CB first please, why is that?
remember, these are not CMFs from our academy... they are bought here (I'm mainly talking about appelt, buoy, pogba here, and perhaps verratti soon)
and then add cronios' points there, on some points he was and still is right : we have so many CMFs come and go last few years but we did little to CB, LB and prima punta; and surprise surprise! our first new players will be 2-3 more CMFs...
RVP and LB/CB first please, why is that?
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