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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Ranieri says he likes all of the Juve players, its part of the jig and all. He says he is a big fan of Tiago but benches him all the time.


Molinaro was just a backup to Chiellini when the season, just a fringe player. But he have been forced to play him every game because he is the only LB.

And yeah, moron, a normal coach would REALLY play an attacking midfielder as an LB...
Well, we can all argue here about what a manager should do and shouldn't do. It's pretty obvious that Ranieri shouldn't have stuck with Molinaro the entire season.

Salihamidzic should have been fielded there. I'm sure he would have done better there than Molinaro. And yes, he does play on the left flank for the Bosnians.
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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Well, we can all argue here about what a manager should do and shouldn't do. It's pretty obvious that Ranieri shouldn't have stuck with Molinaro the entire season.

Salihamidzic should have been fielded there. I'm sure he would have done better there than Molinaro. And yes, he does play on the left flank for the Bosnians.
I think every time I saw a Juve match with you I was like. "Dude, why isn't Sali on the left? He's so much better than Molinaro."

You're reply went something like, "Fuck Raneri! Fucking idiot! Bah! Fuck! Shit! Idiot!":D
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I think every time I saw a Juve match with you I was like. "Dude, why isn't Sali on the left? He's so much better than Molinaro."

You're reply went something like, "Fuck Raneri! Fucking idiot! Bah! Fuck! Shit! Idiot!":D
Take the "Bah" out and I think you're pretty close. :D

But yeah, Hasan should have been out there much more.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Molinaro was our only choice as LB. Let that sink in instead of doing your best to deny the obvious. Sali isnt a fullback, and the few times he has been tried there, he has been as bad or worse (his hard work looks better in midfield, but in defence he has little defence ability).

He is a utility guy, jack of all trades. So little is asked of him when he does different roles. But even when he was his prime, he was only OK as fullback in Bayern. But now he really sucks much more then back then, and hence is considerably more useless in positions he barely can cover.

He doesnt play for Bosnia anymore and hasnt for a while.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Molinaro was our only choice as LB. Let that sink in instead of doing your best to deny the obvious. Sali isnt a fullback, and the few times he has been tried there, he has been as bad or worse (his hard work looks better in midfield, but in defence he has little defence ability).

He is a utility guy, jack of all trades. So little is asked of him when he does different roles. But even when he was his prime, he was only OK as fullback in Bayern. But now he really sucks much more then back then, and hence is considerably more useless in positions he barely can cover.

He doesnt play for Bosnia anymore and hasnt for a while.
I know what sort of player Hasan is. And yeah, while he doesn't usually play at the back, he has still played there before. Ask Burke - he would thoroughly agree that Hasan did well as a fill in fullback at Bayern, and that he's a better choice at left-back than Molinaro.

It doesn't matter if the player's title is "left-back" or not. If the player can play at a position, he can play there no matter what his title. I mean, people were dumbfounded by switching Zambrotta to left-back, while Hasan has played there in the past and is pretty much equal on both sides of the pitch.
 

francesco

Till death do us part!
Jul 25, 2006
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what about playing Zebina or Sali at RB, and Grygera at LB? In the away game to Genoa, he was very impressive by scoring a goal and assisting Trez with the second. Molinaro needs to be benched in order to aid his development, by benching him it leaves him disappointed and makes him work harder, so when given a chance to play, he will play his heart out to keep his place in the squad.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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what about playing Zebina or Sali at RB, and Grygera at LB? In the away game to Genoa, he was very impressive by scoring a goal and assisting Trez with the second. Molinaro needs to be benched in order to aid his development, by benching him it leaves him disappointed and makes him work harder, so when given a chance to play, he will play his heart out to keep his place in the squad.
But I thought Molinaro already TRIED HARD?!

:rofl2:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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Nothing suggest Ranieri is some big fan of Molinaro. He has played only because Molinaro is the ONLY LB we have had.
Actually everything suggests that CR is a Molinaro lover:shocked:

-Molinaro is the only player in our team who is entirely irreplaceable!
-Molinaro had the most caps in the season and worst performances of the decade
-CR said that Molinaro was one of our best players of this season:heart:
-CR gave limited chances to everyone else, Tiago, Criscito, Almiron, Nocerino, Grygera, Palladino were all marginalized after their first "not so good" performance, they had just a couple of games to prove their value and thats it.
Molinaro was the only player who totally sucked for 5 consecutive games and his place wasnt threatened...

And to counter your greatest (and valid argument), that CR had no other option and he was forced to play Molinaro:

-A thought to replace Molinaro, never crossed CR's mind, not in the x-mas transfer period, neither now.
He preferred to spend 20 mil to get 5th DM instead of signing a free alternative LB
-Not even noe, after the end of the season and with the CL ahead of us, plenty of time for changes and a new budget, we are not considering to find a Molinaro replacement!
Now he he wants a 5th attacker and sees no problem to our LB position, we are most likely to go on like that and just bring De Ceglie as Molinaro's back up,
because we "trust" Molinaro.
That means that CR is very pleased with Molinaro's performances and he believes that Molinaro is already CL material!!
He believes that Molinaro can be an irreplaceable part of the team that will challenge the championship.
He believes that we must build our team on players like Molinaro!!

There are no excuses anymore for him or our board, if they keep such a player as our main starter, they will demonstrate how much they care for this club and how incompetent they really are!
Whoever supports players like Molinaro, as starters for the new "strong" Juventus we are building, is an enemy of Juventus. Both if he unintentionally hurts our interests out of incompetence or if he is delibeterally refuses to invest a minimal sum, to make us much stronger in that position!
 

francesco

Till death do us part!
Jul 25, 2006
2,420
But I thought Molinaro already TRIED HARD?!

:rofl2:
mate im not saying he didnt, but after the injury to Andrade he was first choice LB. I believe it would aid his development. Im sure that if Andrade stayed fit and Criscito lived up to his hype, then Molinaro would be on the fringes of first team football. It was supposed to be Grygera - Andrade - Criscito - Chiellini, who would have thought that Legro and Molinaro would have been starters?
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
Actually everything suggests that CR is a Molinaro lover:shocked:

-Molinaro is the only player in our team who is entirely irreplaceable!
-Molinaro had the most caps in the season and worst performances of the decade
-CR said that Molinaro was one of our best players of this season:heart:
-CR gave limited chances to everyone else, Tiago, Criscito, Almiron, Nocerino, Grygera, Palladino were all marginalized after their first "not so good" performance, they had just a couple of games to prove their value and thats it.
Molinaro was the only player who totally sucked for 5 consecutive games and his place wasnt threatened...

And to counter your greatest (and valid argument), that CR had no other option and he was forced to play Molinaro:

-A thought to replace Molinaro, never crossed CR's mind, not in the x-mas transfer period, neither now.
He preferred to spend 20 mil to get 5th DM instead of signing a free alternative LB
-Not even noe, after the end of the season and with the CL ahead of us, plenty of time for changes and a new budget, we are not considering to find a Molinaro replacement!
Now he he wants a 5th attacker and sees no problem to our LB position, we are most likely to go on like that and just bring De Ceglie as Molinaro's back up,
because we "trust" Molinaro.
That means that CR is very pleased with Molinaro's performances and he believes that Molinaro is already CL material!!
He believes that Molinaro can be an irreplaceable part of the team that will challenge the championship.
He believes that we must build our team on players like Molinaro!!

There are no excuses anymore for him or our board, if they keep such a player as our main starter, they will demonstrate how much they care for this club and how incompetent they really are!
Whoever supports players like Molinaro, as starters for the new "strong" Juventus we are building, is an enemy of Juventus. Both if he unintentionally hurts our interests out of incompetence or if he is delibeterally refuses to invest a minimal sum, to make us much stronger in that position!
I don't know how can you manage to write such an amount of gibberish in your posts. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself? You're still not the right guy to give opinions on Molinaro. Just find another topic. Tired of your anti-Molinaro posts. Get over it already.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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I don't know how can you manage to write such an amount of gibberish in your posts. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself? You're still not the right guy to give opinions on Molinaro. Just find another topic. Tired of your anti-Molinaro posts. Get over it already.
:agree: hear, hear
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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That post was utterly laughable, lets hope he was kidding around because no one can be that hopeless. Long ass mantra of saying the same crap. Congrats, its an acheivement.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I don't know how can you manage to write such an amount of gibberish in your posts. Don't you get tired of repeating yourself? You're still not the right guy to give opinions on Molinaro. Just find another topic. Tired of your anti-Molinaro posts. Get over it already.
At least i have an opinion, you can only disagree with some certain people...:lol:
You can chose to ignore my posts for all i care, but do not provoke me!

You too?:heart:

That post was utterly laughable, lets hope he was kidding around because no one can be that hopeless. Long ass mantra of saying the same crap. Congrats, its an acheivement.

I find some of your posts utterly laughable too, but as a demonstration of respect and dignity, i dont feel the need to declare it on public.
I have noticed this is your strategy to attack a poster when you cannot answer with arguments!
Some things i ve said, were indeed mentioned as jokes, but some things are not!
My opinion on Molinaro didnt change, it is only normal to repeat the same things.
In a forum some people heard them again, some people didnt.
If dont repeat any of those arguments, someone else will and the discussion will make circles!
I feel that some of the posters who werent present at previous discussion, have the right to hear those arguments, my posts are for them to read too, not only for you!
You chose to ignore some of the arguments we used against Molinaro during the season.
The season is over and if we only keep the positive things on him and sympathize/get familiar with his presence, we might forget who he really is.
Is see no point on defending Molinaro, i have no tolerance for such a useless starter in my team.
You cant stop me express my opinion, i didnt stop you to express yours either!
If you have anything to say to defend him, use arguments, not personal attacks!
 

Djabrail

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May 23, 2008
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-CR gave limited chances to everyone else, Tiago, Criscito, Almiron, Nocerino, Grygera, Palladino were all marginalized after their first "not so good" performance, they had just a couple of games to prove their value and thats it.

He preferred to spend 20 mil to get 5th DM instead of signing a free alternative LB

Nocerino-limited chances,are you kidding, Grygera?-what do you want him to prove, hes never been Juve material, he was just for free. Almiron, Tiago?

Its a big game, you cant just play around, you have replacement ,than you replace THE BAD GUY,if dont then you play Molinaro.

And yes, we need 20 mil 5th dm( who ist actually dm, but CM), rather than a free alternative LB.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,905
Yo, doctor, why don't you simply change your signature and write there something like "Molinaro is the worst Juve player ever, he can't defend, he can't attack and Ranieri wants to have children with him"

J/k.
I have absolutely nothing against Cronios repeating himself. That's his right.
I admit that sometimes i find that annoying, though.
But i'm aware that i'm also annoying when i make azzuri jokes, so i can't tell him not to do something when i'm doing the exact same thing.

I still love him as my partner in balkan nations discussions.
:D
 

pierrelb

Junior Member
May 9, 2008
137
i'm tired of reading about molinaro, especially since this is a de ceglie thread.

some quotes from blanc on goal.com concerning de ceglie:

"I can confirm that we will keep the left hand side of our defence as it is,” said Blanc.

“Cristian Molinaro and Paolo De Ceglie will be competing for the left-back place as they are two players who we have plenty of faith in.

“We want to show everyone that we can go far with our own home-grown players.”

end quote

now from the previous rambles of how bad molinaro is, i kno the news of keeping molinaro won't please many people (including me), but the fact that they want to bring back de ceglie and give him a chance is great news to me. i heard us recently going after grosso tho, but that could just be some sports writer bringing back past news.
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Forza Обединета Македонија!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Forza Обединета Македонија!
:lol:


You're xcen3x's new favorite member.
But i know a senior juventuz.com member who won't like what you're saying here. :D

P.S: Manos won't like it either
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
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I do agree with majority of Cronios posts, no offence to anyone but it seems like some people here like to disrespect people just because they have different opinions than there's......
 

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