Osama Bin Laden is dead! (7 Viewers)

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Hell, we have Predator drones and constant surveillance of all sorts of areas in Pakistan, yet supposedly we couldn't find OBL for over ten years!

Three scenarios: 1) He had help from the ISI 2) Our intelligence really, really sucks 3) We milked this guy for all he's worth for years.

I choose 3.
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So was he killed in a 'kill mission' during a firefight or whilst resisting arrest?
The media says he was unarmed but "resisting".

It was obviously a kill mission, they were never going to capture him alive and bring him here. That would be ridiculous.
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Please tell me you are joking.
I'm only going off of what you said earlier about the US not being able to take that compound because it was in the territory of the "best intelligence service in the world". You also criticized the US, a country on the opposite side of the planet, for not being able to find Bin Laden all while singing the praises for people who lived in his neighborhood.
 

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You make a bold statement when you say "Pakistan harbors terrorist" without any proof.

I see what India does and it's pathetic. Trying to give their biggest terrorist attack a name with a ring to it ala 9/11 and it's pathetic. No matter what you say terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and LeT have done the most harm to Pakistan. No other nation has lost as many civilians in this war on terror. Let me also remind you that you can't ignore history; and history will tell you that Pakistan didn't ask for what is happening there. It was the culmination of some tough decisions it had to make when it was threatened with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on one side and their arch enemy India on the other.
Facts are facts

And if you're trying to downplay the events on 26/11 then that is just ridiculous. Calling what happened in Mumbai "pathetic" - seriously?? Without knowing you one could come to the conclusion that you supported what happened - even condoned it.

As for the most harm being done to Pakistan by these terror groups -- they use Pakistan as their safe haven, why don't they choose elsewhere unless they are being allowed to stay?

You need to really open your eyes and stop trying to justify whats happening and stop making Pakistan as an innocent pawn/victim in all of this that is unable to control anything.
 

.zero

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say but I'll add that even though there is a lot of opposition to us and the fact that we've been persecuted in the past, we've never been on the end of anything on this scale before.

If you take a look at this wiki link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2010_attacks_on_Ahmadi_mosques_in_Lahore#Responsibility

It says that the reason behind the attacks was that Al-Qaeda wanted to gain sympathy among Pakistani's. In the past they've attacked Shia's but that didn't really gain them any support so they though killing Ahmadi's would be better.



It is. I'm not ruling out that someone knew about his whereabouts but then again you know how they find these kids locked up in someones basement for two decades and all the while there's a police station down the road. Just a thought.
There also not top grade intelligence services from around the world in conjunction with military specialists looking for kids in basements.
 
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    Facts are facts

    And if you're trying to downplay the events on 26/11 then that is just ridiculous. Calling what happened in Mumbai "pathetic" - seriously?? Without knowing you one could come to the conclusion that you supported what happened - even condoned it.

    As for the most harm being done to Pakistan by these terror groups -- they use Pakistan as their safe haven, why don't they choose elsewhere unless they are being allowed to stay?

    You need to really open your eyes and stop trying to justify whats happening and stop making Pakistan as an innocent pawn/victim in all of this that is unable to control anything.
    How was I trying to downplay the events? :shifty: Indian paranoia striking again? I said it was pathetic how India was seeking the same type of world attention by giving the attacks a 'ringy' name like the September 11 attacks. Your constant quest to brown nose the white man. The 'subservient to the British mentality' will never leave India and that is pathetic.

    Two posts below I wrote how 99 of my minority sect were killed in broad day light by the same terrorist organization. You're an idiot by suggesting I condoned any attacks, it means you don't read shit. So I'm done discussing this with you.
     

    JuveJay

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    How was I trying to downplay the events? :shifty: Indian paranoia striking again? I said it was pathetic how India was seeking the same type of world attention by giving the attacks a 'ringy' name like the September 11 attacks. Your constant quest to brown nose the white man. The 'subservient to the British mentality' will never leave India and that is pathetic.
    Is it really any different to how the rest of the English speaking world uses 'gate' at the end of every half decent scandal? Or 'opoli' in Italy?
     
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    Is it really any different to how the rest of the English speaking world uses 'gate' at the end of every half decent scandal? Or 'opoli' in Italy?
    Do you remember ever knowing an event by a name like "9/11" before? I don't. Their sensationalist media is among the most despicable in the world. They play their news to loud dramatic background music and label friendly cricket matches between the nations as "India vs Kasab" (the sole survivor of the Mumbai attacks). They have no intentions of bringing peace between the two nations. People like Dru get sucked into this ideology and take every opportunity to hurl insults at Pakistani's.
     

    .zero

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    How was I trying to downplay the events? :shifty: Indian paranoia striking again? I said it was pathetic how India was seeking the same type of world attention by giving the attacks a 'ringy' name like the September 11 attacks. Your constant quest to brown nose the white man. The 'subservient to the British mentality' will never leave India and that is pathetic.

    Two posts below I wrote how 99 of my minority sect were killed in broad day light by the same terrorist organization. You're an idiot by suggesting I condoned any attacks, it means you don't read shit. So I'm done discussing this with you.
    I'm done playing nice. I like never talk shit about India on here yet the likes of Dru feel the need to constantly talk shit about Pakistan.
    What shit did I exactly talk? That terrorists are now emanating from Pakistan? That the Pakistani government could possibly be harboring or at least aware of terrorist groups basing ops in Pakistan?

    You're the one here who doesn't like what he's hearing and so you decide to take shots at India. India has nothing to do with this thread nor OBL.

    This is your childish way of just blindly standing up for Pakistan and throwing insults at India in retaliation. And to top it off you call me an idiot all because you don't like my posts? Real mature, T :tup:
     

    JuveJay

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    It's been copied several times (7/7, 3/11 for example), seems a silly thing to pick up on. I'm not getting involved in your wider discussion :D
     

    .zero

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    Do you remember ever knowing an event by a name like "9/11" before? I don't. Their sensationalist media is among the most despicable in the world. They play their news to loud dramatic background music and label friendly cricket matches between the nations as "India vs Kasab" (the sole survivor of the Mumbai attacks). They have no intentions of bringing peace between the two nations. People like Dru get sucked into this ideology and take every opportunity to hurl insults at Pakistani's.
    Again, what insults?

    The worst thing that I said is that the Pakistani government cannot be trusted. If thats an insult then you are really being a girl about this.
     
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    How was I trying to downplay the events? :shifty: Indian paranoia striking again? I said it was pathetic how India was seeking the same type of world attention by giving the attacks a 'ringy' name like the September 11 attacks. Your constant quest to brown nose the white man. The 'subservient to the British mentality' will never leave India and that is pathetic.

    Two posts below I wrote how 99 of my minority sect were killed in broad day light by the same terrorist organization. You're an idiot by suggesting I condoned any attacks, it means you don't read shit. So I'm done discussing this with you.
    Not same, but similar. It wasn't just some dude blowing himself up in front of an embassy or something. It was clearly a co-ordinated, well planned attack on several important landmarks in Mumbai. CST, Leopold Cafe, The Taj Hotel, Nariman House... all these places are quite important in Mumbai, and they were all attacked. Plus, it lasted for 3 days. It may not seem as big as the 9\11 attacks, but it certainly is the biggest attack in recent history. And like JJ said, the format of representing the date of the incident is no different from '-gate' or 'opoli'. It's just popular culture and the media were not creative enough to come up with a better name. It mean nothing. Absolutely nothing.
     
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    You insinuate that I condone the Mumbai attacks and I'm just supposed to take that? Don't act all innocent.

    If this has nothing to do with India then explain to me how Pakistan's biggest ally, the US, on the War on Terror is desperately trying to keep the US-Pakistan relations despite all the questions yet you are constantly criticizing Pakistan.
     

    .zero

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    You insinuate that I condone the Mumbai attacks and I'm just supposed to take that? Don't act all innocent.

    If this has nothing to do with India then explain to me how Pakistan's biggest ally, the US, on the War on Terror is desperately trying to keep the US-Pakistan relations despite all the questions yet you are constantly criticizing Pakistan.
    You brought India into this discussion with me. That is your automatic counter

    Once again, just because you don't like what myself and news outlets are saying doesn't mean you need to go and bring up things that aren't pertinent to this thread.

    Grow up
     

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