Osama Bin Laden is dead! (12 Viewers)

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Ok, will this end the blind attacks by American fighters that kill hundreds of Pakistani civilians on a daily basis?

Will this end the occupation of Afghanistan?

Will this end the occupation of Iraq?

As long as those questions are answered by NO, then many Osamas will appear again and again.
 

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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
I doubt it, I figure we will see a sharp increase for a short time as they try and avenge his death but long term I think so. He may not be the brains behind it, but there goes their mascot.
You DO know that the second man in Al-Qaeda Ayman Al-Dhawahiri is more violent than Osama. No?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,684
LoL...I never said that, I said it might trigger a new found responsibility to what is going on in our country...but not taking to the streets. We have enough of that all over the country already in smaller scales.

You might think tonight is horseshit andy because in some weird way you are trying to tie celebrating his death to the problems in our country, and it just isn't working.

There is a major difference at feeling a sense of relief for those whom lost loved ones because of this guy. You can be sure that this moment now is more important to them then a devaluing dollar as a result of the FED.

Mission accomplished. Now many people can finally move on to other important matters, like the ones you mention...not that those problems haven't been a focus already.
All bullshit, of course.

Less than one percent of the nation lost a loved one on 9/11. Not to mention everyone is more likely to die of a bee sting than a terrorist attack, according to our own government's statistics.

Mission accomplished? Fine. Go and praise Bush, he's been apparently right all along! This is even despite the fact the FBI hasn't even mentioned Osama as a suspect in the 9/11 attacks.

And as I write this, there's some idiot chanting USA while wearing a Roma jersey on TV. That's fitting.

Again, congrats on your hollow victory, America. Now lets see if you can save yourselves before the implosion.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,684
Ok, will this end the blind attacks by American fighters that kill hundreds of Pakistani civilians on a daily basis?

Will this end the occupation of Afghanistan?

Will this end the occupation of Iraq?

As long as those questions are answered by NO, then many Osamas will appear again and again.
Of course not.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
I'm going to bed happy as the threat of OBL no longer exists. Sure, terrorists and their ideal still exits but has taken a massive blow today.

As far as the other problems that plague this country, as I mentioned hopefully this ignites a much needed fire in our youth to start responding to all our national problems that Andy has mentioned. Though they are not tied directly, we can lay one problem to rest now and hopefully focus our attention now on our problems within our borders.

I love you Andy, and you have some of the most blunt, yet to-the-point dialogue I've ever read and I appreciate it. Perhaps one day you will be able to vocalize that a bit more here. I don't disagree with you on our national problems...and for the record I just think tonight was about something different and if you can't see that then I am not sure what else to say.

Tonight I celebrated for the ones I saw jumping from the top of the twin towers 10 years ago because they had no way out. I celebrated the ones who died, the people I saw crying tonight, and most importantly the people still alive who no longer have a father, mother, or sibling/relative, or friend because of OBL.

Fuck yeah I'm happy...tonight was a moral victory for a lot of people who look beyond a devaluing dollar, rising gas prices and high taxes because the man that killed their father no longer exits.

I celebrated justice and that is exactly what I witnessed tonight.

Good night.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,684
MSNBC already saying this development will only increase TSA security measures, police state involvement on every corner, et cetera.

Yippee.

Plus they also continue mentioning a "home-grown" terror attack, as if American Muslim extremists are going to strike in retaliation. :rolleyes:

I'd trust Bernie Madoff more than anybody I've been hearing on here.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
You DO know that the second man in Al-Qaeda Ayman Al-Dhawahiri is more violent than Osama. No?
Rebel, there are a lot of violent people out there. This celebrating tonight is not that we think the war on terrorism is over, rather justice was served. Obviously there is a lot of work to do.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
MSNBC already saying this development will only increase TSA security measures, police state involvement on every corner, et cetera.

Yippee.

Plus they also continue mentioning a "home-grown" terror attack, as if American Muslim extremists are going to strike in retaliation. :rolleyes:

I'd trust Bernie Madoff more than anybody I've been hearing on here.
you should complain about the negativity our media constantly reports...everything is always a "constant threat"...makes me :yawn:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,684
I'm going to bed happy as the threat of OBL no longer exists. Sure, terrorists and their ideal still exits but has taken a massive blow today.

As far as the other problems that plague this country, as I mentioned hopefully this ignites a much needed fire in our youth to start responding to all our national problems that Andy has mentioned. Though they are not tied directly, we can lay one problem to rest now and hopefully focus our attention now on our problems within our borders.

I love you Andy, and you have some of the most blunt, yet to-the-point dialogue I've ever read and I appreciate it. Perhaps one day you will be able to vocalize that a bit more here. I don't disagree with you on our national problems...and for the record I just think tonight was about something different and if you can't see that then I am not sure what else to say.

Tonight I celebrated the ones I saw jumping from the top of the twin towers 2 years ago because they had no way out. I celebrated the ones who died, the people I saw crying tonight, and most importantly the people still alive who no longer have a father, mother, or sibling/relative, or friend because of OBL.

Fuck yeah I'm happy...tonight was a moral victory for a lot of people who look beyond a devaluing dollar, rising gas prices and high taxes because the man that killed their father no longer exits.

I celebrated justice and that is exactly what I witnessed tonight.

Good night.
A "moral" victory? Bombing and invading two countries in search of one single person, who was actually killed in a third country, is a "moral" victory?

Not in the slightest. We've wasted thousands of American lives for this nonsense. And now ten years later, we aren't any safer, we aren't any better off. We just spent a shit load of money, sent our people off to die, and created more enemies.

And on top of this, Bin Laden was our ally twenty years ago.

FUCK any single one of these faggots speaking on MSNBC. If you want to fight wars, go fight them yourselves.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
61,344
Wait so he was dead and they merely took his body? Well that's that now they can continue farming for minerals in Afghanistan.

Moral victory my arse, the coalition killed more people than any terrorist did.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
A "moral" victory? Bombing and invading two countries in search of one single person, who was actually killed in a third country, is a "moral" victory?

Not in the slightest. We've wasted thousands of American lives for this nonsense. And now ten years later, we aren't any safer, we aren't any better off. We just spent a shit load of money, sent our people off to die, and created more enemies.

And on top of this, Bin Laden was our ally twenty years ago.
People are always going to dislike us for one reason or another. That's just the way it goes. Blame the government 20 years ago that made him our ally, not the people in charge of it the last 10 years.

We spent how many years in Nazi germany looking for one single man? And yes, once we got rid of him the world was a better place. Same shit, different bucket. But I guess those thousands of lives were wasted too...
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Rebel, there are a lot of violent people out there. This celebrating tonight is not that we think the war on terrorism is over, rather justice was served. Obviously there is a lot of work to do.
You think that justice was served today. Well, many people in the World have different viewpoints. Even 11th September was considered a serving for justice by some people as they think it is a reply for the American crimes in the Middle East.

In the end, IMO this will not have any impact on what is called "Terror" as I doubt the work style of Al-Qaeda is affected by the death of one person. This seems to have an impact on US internal elections though as some people in the US will think it is the end of their tragedy. IMO their tragedy will not end anytime soon unless they think of others' tragedies.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
Wait so he was dead and they merely took his body? Well that's that now they can continue farming for minerals in Afghanistan.

Moral victory my arse, the coalition killed more people than any terrorist did.
moral victory for 9/11.*
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
61,344
With or without Osama terrorism will continue, so will the occupation in Afghanistan. It though is great PR for Obama. I also don't believe Osama can be compared to Hitler.

Why did the U.S simply allow Osama's family to leave without any sort of interrogation?
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
You think that justice was served today. Well, many people in the World have different viewpoints. Even 11th September was considered a serving for justice by some people as they think it is a reply for the American crimes in the Middle East.

In the end, IMO this will not have any impact on what is called "Terror" as I doubt the work style of Al-Qaeda is affected by the death of one person. This seems to have an impact on US internal elections though as some people in the US will think it is the end of their tragedy. IMO their tragedy will not end anytime soon unless they think of others' tragedies.
That's why I said I think attacks will increase in the short term. Not sure about the long term, but I get the feeling that the bee-hive was kicked and kicked hard.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
With or without Osama terrorism will continue, so will the occupation in Afghanistan. It though is great PR for Obama. I also don't believe Osama can be compared to Hitler.

Why did the U.S simply allow Osama's family to leave without any sort of interrogation?
I'm not comparing hitler to obama at all. Not sure how you gathered that. It was a reference to andy claiming we wasted thousands of american lives looking for OBL.

Terrorism will continue, no doubt. And unfortunately it is a great PR for Obama...it will take a massive campaign to not get him re-elected.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
He & his organization was killing people before 9/11 and afterwards. Take off your "Amerrrica" goggles.
Yes, I realize that Ze. I don't wear glasses and I think I see things from a pretty un-biased perspective. I am glad he is dead. I know terrorism will continue to long after today...
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,359
That is exactly the point. killing him will not have any impact as long as American troops make wars and kill innocents for no reasonable reason.
not disagreeing there, Reb.

Not sure if you guys are getting my point, though.
 

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