Oh CANADA ... (a personal experience story of our great healthcare system) (10 Viewers)

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
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#21
Desmond said:
Which is what makes insurance all the more invaluable. If you have to pay 3000 quid for a minor op (if it can be called an op) even with insurance, imagine what people with worse problems have to fork out.

And btw, must be some pretty heavy insurance you have there if it covers a cut lip.

I have no idea how it works out, I'm 15 I dont pay the bills :D But regardless, paying such a sum of money for sewing a lip together is more than a bit ridiculous.

I did go to the ER as I was like rolling in my own blood. 3000$ by the way, not quid.
 

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Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
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#22
Sir Sebastian said:
I did go to the ER as I was like rolling in my own blood.
I guess that explains it a bit...from personal experience I know that the figures skyrocket the moment it involves the ER.
 

mikhail

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Jan 24, 2003
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#23
Don Bes said:
sorry man. i thought it was like that because it was free
Nah, healthcare is far more free in Ireland than in the US for example, but there's still a lot of stuff you have to pay for. I think healthcare systems worldwide aren't great simply because a really good healthcare system costs silly money.
 

Mr. Gol

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Sep 15, 2004
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#24
swag said:
Mr. Gol has a brutal point. I know one of the things that suck in Canada's health care system is that if you need to get an MRI scan, for example, there's a waiting list for a few months sometimes.

But the U.S. service isn't much better, IMO. We still wait in doctor's offices for far too long after our supposed appointment times. The costs are exorbitant and getting worse. More and more people aren't able to pay, which accelerates the burden because now those people end up with the most costly health care possible: unpaid emergency room visits that are bankrupting hospitals, which to keep afloat need to be subsidized by, you guessed it, people paying for health insurance. (Hello $20 Tylenol.)
The system has become like this because goverment interference in the US has always been very low. The whole point of getting healthcare insurance in the first place was to avoid people playing Russian Roulette with God, hoping not to get sick. In the Netherlands healthcare insurance is mandatory, and the goverment helps out the ones who can't afford it (as a student I get 30 euros compensation a month, for example). This, of course, is quite expensive and adds a lot to the taxes, but at least you know that people will get the help they need when they get sick. It also avoids some hospitals compensating 50% of the patients not paying and getting that money by doubling the prices for the other 50%.
 

Desmond

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Jul 12, 2002
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#25
Mr. Gol said:
In the Netherlands healthcare insurance is mandatory, and the goverment helps out the ones who can't afford it (as a student I get 30 euros compensation a month, for example).
Here in Singapore every student has basic health and accident insurance paid for by the government as well.

The working population has, apart from insurance, a government scheme called Medisave which comes in handy in the event of an illness/accident. Its a mandatory monthly contribution from your income to a personal medical fund that can be drawn upon whenever needed. It's very helpful in particular for retirees who no longer have a steady income; that way they always have a pile of money stashed away somewhere for medical fees. Family members also get to utilize the fund if the person in question passes away.

In other words, it makes personal responsibility mandatory.
 

Mr. Gol

Senior Member
Sep 15, 2004
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#26
Which is good. The horrible thing in the US at the moment is that hospitals can't afford to help people without insurance, which of course is a bizarre situation. If you make healthcare available for everyone, then everyone should be able to afford it.
 
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Lawnchair Bes
Jan 7, 2004
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    Desmond said:
    Here in Singapore every student has basic health and accident insurance paid for by the government as well.

    The working population has, apart from insurance, a government scheme called Medisave which comes in handy in the event of an illness/accident. Its a mandatory monthly contribution from your income to a personal medical fund that can be drawn upon whenever needed. It's very helpful in particular for retirees who no longer have a steady income; that way they always have a pile of money stashed away somewhere for medical fees. Family members also get to utilize the fund if the person in question passes away.

    In other words, it makes personal responsibility mandatory.

    yeah we have those here, retirment and education. for education the government even puts as much money as the parent would put, up to a certain amount.



    update: my brother did get better
     

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