Official Zlatan Ibrahimovic Thread (27 Viewers)
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++ [ originally posted by barkuss ] ++
Well....there has been some inventions lately.....and they invented satelite
Well....there has been some inventions lately.....and they invented satelite
Now all I gotta wait for is them to do is invent the money tree :groan:
Jeannette:
btw what's with all the provocative avatars? I think the forum's gonna be overflooded with hormones if u keep this up
I really don't think that Zlatan is ready for the starting 11 of Juventus. Del Piero and Trezeguet really complement each other, and should be the partnership of choice.
Ibrahimovic is a genius, but he also has many strange moments where he hits opponents. He also rarely scores, which is why having Trezeguet is so important. All three of DP/Trezeguet/Ibrahimovic could work however, but then Olivera would be benched.
So IMO Ibrahimovic, Olivera and Camoranesi are all fighting for one place in the team.
Ibrahimovic is a genius, but he also has many strange moments where he hits opponents. He also rarely scores, which is why having Trezeguet is so important. All three of DP/Trezeguet/Ibrahimovic could work however, but then Olivera would be benched.
So IMO Ibrahimovic, Olivera and Camoranesi are all fighting for one place in the team.
I agree that he isn't ready for the starting eleven yet. Zlatan has been at the club for a week and has trained with the squad three times. He doesn't know his team mates yet, and they don't know him.
Just give this a little time, he'll improve. And a team at this level needs at least three world class strikers. They'll get plenty of time on the pitch, all three of them.
It's also gonna be interesting to see if Capello choses to play with the three of them at the same time in some home games.
Just give this a little time, he'll improve. And a team at this level needs at least three world class strikers. They'll get plenty of time on the pitch, all three of them.
It's also gonna be interesting to see if Capello choses to play with the three of them at the same time in some home games.
(sorry...don't know how to double-quote)
As much as I want Zlatan to succeed, I really want to see the DP/Trez partnership intact for this season at least with Zlatan as a sub.
But believe me, an out-of-form Ibrahimovic, which happens frequently, is a enormous burden for any team to bear. He REALLY needs to mature. If he plays a bad match he doesn't care about the team anymore and only goes for personal succes. If the team is 1-0 down he doesn't go for the easy option, instead trying silly tricks which result in absolutely nothing. He also has very bad temper and often hits opponents with his elbow.
Ibrahimovic IS a genius and probably the natural succesor to Del Piero, but he needs a lot of time to adapt. Remember that he was absolute shite the first 18 months in Amsterdam. I've been at the Amsterdam Arena many times and have often seen people almost eat their chairs out of frustration.
So just because he is new it doesn't mean that he is a world class player already. Please have realistic expectations.
As much as I want Zlatan to succeed, I really want to see the DP/Trez partnership intact for this season at least with Zlatan as a sub.
But believe me, an out-of-form Ibrahimovic, which happens frequently, is a enormous burden for any team to bear. He REALLY needs to mature. If he plays a bad match he doesn't care about the team anymore and only goes for personal succes. If the team is 1-0 down he doesn't go for the easy option, instead trying silly tricks which result in absolutely nothing. He also has very bad temper and often hits opponents with his elbow.
Ibrahimovic IS a genius and probably the natural succesor to Del Piero, but he needs a lot of time to adapt. Remember that he was absolute shite the first 18 months in Amsterdam. I've been at the Amsterdam Arena many times and have often seen people almost eat their chairs out of frustration.
So just because he is new it doesn't mean that he is a world class player already. Please have realistic expectations.
Where have you been the last year?
You wrote an exact description of Zlatan 1-2 years ago. This was him before he matured at Ajax and before Koeman and Van Basten learned him what professional football is all about.
Zlatan today is much more of a team player. He knows much better now when to let the ball go and most of all, he works much harder for the team now than he did when he came to Ajax. He has showed this both at Ajax and in the Swedish national team.
The thing he needs to improve the most now is his goal scoring ability. He needs to be a little sharper in front of goal. I'm sure this will come, but we'll have to give him some time to adapt to Juve and to the Italian way of playing football.
You wrote an exact description of Zlatan 1-2 years ago. This was him before he matured at Ajax and before Koeman and Van Basten learned him what professional football is all about.
Zlatan today is much more of a team player. He knows much better now when to let the ball go and most of all, he works much harder for the team now than he did when he came to Ajax. He has showed this both at Ajax and in the Swedish national team.
The thing he needs to improve the most now is his goal scoring ability. He needs to be a little sharper in front of goal. I'm sure this will come, but we'll have to give him some time to adapt to Juve and to the Italian way of playing football.
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