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C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
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What do you mean Nocerino isn't supposed to cross? I know crossing should mostly be for our wingers/flanks players, but if thats the case then Del Piero should never cross same case with Iaquinta,Zanetti and the list goes on. Hell even Trezeguet is crossing pretty well, why can't nocerino cross?

I'm not sure if you were following Juve games, but looking at every single game and the opportunities Nocerino is having each time, it's just pathetic and sad to see his crosses going horrible when you have the likes of Trezeguet inside the box and Iaquinta.

Zanetti isn't supposed to cross the ball yet he did it many times and we've scored over 4goals thanks to him.

If nocerino can't cross or wont learn how to cross then send him to serie C we're not here to wait for god to give him this gift. He either works on his passes and crossing or he should be out ASAP.

Sorry but we're not Napoli.
I suppose Milan should replace Gattuso as well, since all he can do is run like a wild dog? Y dont they? Because he does his job better than any1 in football, and any weaknesses in his game are diluted by Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka. That's like pairing Inzaghi, Trezeguet and RVN in a trident, and when the goals dry up, blaming 1 of them for not being able to create for themselves upfront.

That's not to say Nocerino shouldn't improve. He should definitely work on his passing, but lets not make him a scapegoat to a much larger problem; an unbalanced midfield. What he manages to do right, he does well (tireless break up play in midfield). Replacing Nocerino shouldn't be a priority, and if it is, our management are looking at things the wrong way.
 

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Mar 30, 2006
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Nocerino is 22 years old .. I think he is an excellent cnetral mid for his age and his passing will improve no doubt as will the rest of his game ... which is already very good.

No need to knock Nocerino .. he has done alot for us this season and has been one of our best players in midfield. alot of these guys are way too overly critical
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I suppose Milan should replace Gattuso as well, since all he can do is run like a wild dog? Y dont they? Because he does his job better than any1 in football, and any weaknesses in his game are diluted by Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka. That's like pairing Inzaghi, Trezeguet and RVN in a trident, and when the goals dry up, blaming 1 of them for not being able to create for themselves upfront.
Nice comparison
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I admire Sissoko since his Valencia days. I guess many of you know that.

With Nocerino's horrible crosses and passes, I think It's just about time to see Sissoko replacing him until he improves.
believe me..Nocerino is a Beckham in crossing and a Fabregas in passing compared to sissoko


I suppose Milan should replace Gattuso as well, since all he can do is run like a wild dog? Y dont they? Because he does his job better than any1 in football, and any weaknesses in his game are diluted by Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka. That's like pairing Inzaghi, Trezeguet and RVN in a trident, and when the goals dry up, blaming 1 of them for not being able to create for themselves upfront.

That's not to say Nocerino shouldn't improve. He should definitely work on his passing, but lets not make him a scapegoat to a much larger problem; an unbalanced midfield. What he manages to do right, he does well (tireless break up play in midfield). Replacing Nocerino shouldn't be a priority, and if it is, our management are looking at things the wrong way.
Gatusso is more than just running..his passing and movement is miles better than Nocerino's..although you can say that Nocerino has age on his side
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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But the thing is, Gattuso's passing is far better than Nocerino's at the moment, and it's not because he has better players around him.
But how does Nocerino's passing compare to Gattuso's when he was young?

There wouldn't be a great deal of difference.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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He might need to make crosses on occasions, but that job is really for our wingers. He can get into a crossing position, but in the end, the creativity we lack is putting everyone else onto the ship of trying to make something. Ill agree he needs to work on passes, and that must be his priority. He needs to lock down the opposition midfield and make a good pass to another player who is creative. If we rely on him to cross, then it really does show our situation is pretty bad.

Trezeguet is the tall man with good aerial ability who is supposed to be on the end of a cross. Once again, it shows that we have poor creativity with Camo out and Nedved having to come back to help our defense. Palladino and Molinaro are awful crossers as well.
You're making it as if i said that we're relying on him to cross. no, thats not the case, whether he takes these crosses on ocassions or not he should cross like any other normal player. there's no reason for him not to cross well.

I suppose Milan should replace Gattuso as well, since all he can do is run like a wild dog? Y dont they? Because he does his job better than any1 in football, and any weaknesses in his game are diluted by Pirlo, Seedorf and Kaka. That's like pairing Inzaghi, Trezeguet and RVN in a trident, and when the goals dry up, blaming 1 of them for not being able to create for themselves upfront.

That's not to say Nocerino shouldn't improve. He should definitely work on his passing, but lets not make him a scapegoat to a much larger problem; an unbalanced midfield. What he manages to do right, he does well (tireless break up play in midfield). Replacing Nocerino shouldn't be a priority, and if it is, our management are looking at things the wrong way.
I'm not making anyone a scapegoat. I probably love Nocerino more than anyone on here. And because I like him i'm criticizing him for these things.

Probably you should watch more milan matches, Gattuso is capable of passing and crossing. Running wild on the field probably steals the attension out of everyone but if you pay attension closely you'll notice that he's a good passer and not bad at all when it comes to crossing.
 
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You're making it as if i said that we're relying on him to cross. no, thats not the case, whether he takes these crosses on ocassions or not he should cross like any other normal player. there's no reason for him not to cross well.
No, I meant that Nocerino shouldn't be relied on to cross. I want someone who is able to put the ball into the area. Wingers are usually known for being that player. Nocerino has to focus on getting the accurate ball to our wingers, because as a winger, crossing is one of the main things you need to do well.
 

Azzurri7

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No, I meant that Nocerino shouldn't be relied on to cross. I want someone who is able to put the ball into the area. Wingers are usually known for being that player. Nocerino has to focus on getting the accurate ball to our wingers, because as a winger, crossing is one of the main things you need to do well.
I know what you mean...and I can't really disagree, but still he should improve, because thats part of the game, there are couple of occasions that he may get during the game when he's obliged to cross. thats all i'm asking to improve his passing skills and be able to cross.

Other than that he's top.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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i hope we don't sign him anymore now that mascherano has spoken about his desire to join juve
He doesn't really say much about a desire, he says if Liverpool doesn't sign me then there are other clubs and I would like to go. In the same interview he said he likes Liverpool and wishes to stay. As we all know business is business. And the article is from tribalsport. :tdown:
 
Mar 30, 2006
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Momo is one gangly dude... i wonder if his awkwardness is the reason for his injury problems.

I think being at Juve will improve his passing seeing how in Serie A you get a bit more time on the ball as oppose to the Prem and he will also be relied on more to make decent passes seeing how there is no Xabi or Gerrard to make a short pass to.

I think the form he has shown in the last year is not an accurate example of what he is like when he gets a run in the team and we should look back at how he was playing not this season, but last season as an example of what he can bring to our team.
 

Edge

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Jun 14, 2004
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What we need desperately is creativity in Midfield, Sissoko is great for chasing down balls and winning possession back, but it is useless without someone beside him who can distribute i.e. Gerrard and Alonso. Perhaps if we signed VDV or Diego, Sissoko can actually prove useful in our team. But at the moment, he adds nothing to our team.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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But how does Nocerino's passing compare to Gattuso's when he was young?

There wouldn't be a great deal of difference.
That's not even what I'm arguing. I'm talking about right now. Nocerino isn't playing well right now and I think he should be placed on the bench. It's only fair after Almiron and Tiago were benched all that time. I don't care if we "need" him on the pitch (whatever that means, in economics it means nothing).

Fair play here.
 
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