Official Azzurri WC2014 Thread (7 Viewers)

[Trequartista]

Balotelli doesn't even know how to make runs behind the defense, he's a joke.

Dusan was right, he's way overrated on top of being an idiot.

 

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[italiacalcio10]

Italian football is not even 1/10 of what it was 10 years ago.

We can partially blame how the FIGC handled Calciopoli. There is gambling throughout Europe. Instead of penalizing the entire squads, I think it would have been much more effective to prosecute those guilty criminally. Even title stripping may have been appropriate, however, I can't even go through the thought process of those sorting out the punishments and how they figured penalizing the strongest squads in Italy and forcing them into the 2nd division would be good for the league in the long run, especially with the BPL knocking at Serie A's door*. If you have the option of cutting out the tumour you do it rather than going through chemotherapy and killing everything.

*Especially with the EPL's focus on entertaining/fast football. Is it a coincidence that the World Cup is not played how the EPL plays football? no. That is not how you win games. However, it is very marketable.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

He's not overrated, he's just a young, dumb kid, who doesn't work hard, takes his talent for granted, and after football will be bankrupt and selling shoes at Payless Shoes two years after retirement.

"Hi, I'm Mario, may I suggest these Sauconi's? Hmmm, you actually look like my mom!"

 

[AndreaCristiano]

We can partially blame how the FIGC handled Calciopoli. There is gambling throughout Europe. Instead of penalizing the entire squads, I think it would have been much more effective to prosecute those guilty criminally. Even title stripping may have been appropriate, however, I can't even go through the thought process of those sorting out the punishments how they figured penalizing the strongest squads in Italy and forcing them into the 2nd division would be good for the league in the long run, especially with the BPL knocking at Serie A's door. If you have the option of cutting out the tumour you do it rather than going through chemotherapy and killing everything.

Please the calciopoli was a shit feast from start to finish. They shot themselves in the foot over a lot of nothing

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He's not overrated, he's just a young, dumb kid, who doesn't work hard, takes his talent for granted, and after football will be bankrupt and selling shoes at Payless Shoes two years after retirement.

"Hi, I'm Mario, may I suggest these Sauconi's? Hmmm, you actually look like my mom!"

That maybe sooner than later for ... cappa di merda

 

[Linebreak]

Prandelli, and people that want him to coach Juve if Conte leaves

Rossi not being selected and Italy creating a million chances in games 2 and 3

Marchisio, and his fanboys

Italy being unable to play up tempo when 1-0 down with minutes to go in games 2 and 3

Italy, failed to get out of group stage in 2 consecutive World Cups

Insigne

Forgot to add.

Immobile and those who wanted him here

 

[Trequartista]

Let's look at Italy's players just 10-12 years ago compared to today in defense and attack:

In defense:

2002-04: Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Panucci, etc.

2014: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Abate, De Sciglio, Darmian

In attack:

2002-04: Vieri, Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Montella, Cassano, etc.

2014: Balotelli, Immobile, Insigne, Cassano, Cerci, Rossi (not called)


It is not even remotely close. Italy should do what Germany did after Euro 2000 when they completely revamped Germany's youth system and their approach to youth.

 

[italiacalcio10]

Yeah - when people discuss Italian match-fixing most people do not realize it was the Italian police that busted these teams. No other league would allow that to happen. I mean look at FIFA. It is clearly an incredibly corrupt body as I'm sure other domestic leagues are. You don't see the United Nations challenging FIFA or British Bobbies/Polizei busting their domestic leagues. I'd be very surprised if gambling wasn't prominent in most leagues, but if you really want to correct it, chopping of your foot isn't the way to do it.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Let's look at Italy's players just 10-12 years ago compared to today in defense and attack:

In defense:

2002-04: Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Panucci, etc.

2014: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Abate, De Sciglio, Darmian

In attack:

2002-04: Vieri, Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Montella, etc.

2014: Balotelli, Immobile, Insigne, Cassano, Cerci, Rossi (not called)


It is not even remotely close. Italy should do what Germany did after Euro 2000 when they completely revamped Germany's youth system and their approach to youth.

Just as in politics though, Germany don't rest on their laurels, they bail out most of their counterparts across the continent.

 

[Zacheryah]

Let's look at Italy's players just 10-12 years ago compared to today in defense and attack:

In defense:

2002-04: Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Panucci, etc.

2014: Barzagli, Chiellini, Bonucci, Abate, De Sciglio, Darmian

In attack:

2002-04: Vieri, Totti, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Montella, etc.

2014: Balotelli, Immobile, Insigne, Cassano, Cerci, Rossi (not called)


It is not even remotely close. Italy should do what Germany did after Euro 2000 when they completely revamped Germany's youth system and their approach to youth.

Its shocking to see the total lack of new world class italian players this generation.

Verratti might get there, and thats it

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Yeah - when people discuss Italian match-fixing most people do not realize it was the Italian police that busted these teams. No other league would allow that to happen. I mean look at FIFA. It is clearly an incredibly corrupt body as I'm sure other domestic leagues are. You don't see the United Nations challenging FIFA or British Bobbies/Polizei busting their domestic leagues. I'd be very surprised if gambling wasn't prominent in most leagues, but if you really want to correct it, chopping of your foot isn't the way to do it.

And there it is! Once again it comes to light. FIFA is full of shit and they aren't fans of the FIGC they allow bullshit to happen that they wouldn't tolerate anywhere else. It's a sham of an organization. Wait till you see the bullshit ban Suarez gets

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Its shocking to see the total lack of new world class italian players this generation.

Verratti might get there, and thats it

nonsense

Darmian, Verratti, Cerci, Immobile

 

[Trequartista]

nonsense

Darmian, Verratti, Cerci, Immobile

Darmian has been good though, looking forward to seeing him more.

 

[italiacalcio10]

Honesty, I'm way more concerned about our backline vs. the forwards. We do lack one of our signature #10s, but our forwards have potential in the upcoming years. While nowhere near the early 2000s, names like Mastour, Bernardeschi, Destro, Insigne (as he grows - not in height), Berardi, El Shaarawy, Gabbiadini, Immobile as he gets more seasoned do have some promise.

On defense, I'm flat out scared. Our 2018 World Cup pairing is likely Ranocchia-Bonucci at this point. It's flat out frightening.

 

[Trequartista]

Honesty, I'm way more concerned about our backline vs. the forwards. We do lack one of our signature #10s, but our forwards have potential in the upcoming years. While nowhere near the early 2000s, names like Mastour, Bernardeschi, Destro, Insigne (as he grows - not in height), Berardi, El Shaarawy, Gabbiadini, Immobile as he gets more seasoned do have some promise.

On defense, I'm flat out scared. Our 2018 World Cup pairing is likely Ranocchia-Bonucci at this point. It's flat out frightening.

Rugani and Romagnoli :xfinger:

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Honesty, I'm way more concerned about our backline vs. the forwards. We do lack one of our signature #10s, but our forwards have potential in the upcoming years. While nowhere near the early 2000s, names like Mastour, Bernardeschi, Destro, Insigne (as he grows - not in height), Berardi, El Shaarawy, Gabbiadini, Immobile as he gets more seasoned do have some promise.

On defense, I'm flat out scared. Our 2018 World Cup pairing is likely Ranocchia-Bonucci at this point. It's flat out frightening.

Insigne and immobile i will pass on

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Forza Excuses!

 

[vaper]

Honesty, I'm way more concerned about our backline vs. the forwards. We do lack one of our signature #10s, but our forwards have potential in the upcoming years. While nowhere near the early 2000s, names like Mastour, Bernardeschi, Destro, Insigne (as he grows - not in height), Berardi, El Shaarawy, Gabbiadini, Immobile as he gets more seasoned do have some promise.

On defense, I'm flat out scared. Our 2018 World Cup pairing is likely Ranocchia-Bonucci at this point. It's flat out frightening.

Ogbonna could turn out ok

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Forza Excuses!

I can't wait till your team gets there kraut asses kicked out

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Darmian has been good though, looking forward to seeing him more.

maybe you want a bet on 200$? I say that Immobile will score 15+ goals in bundesliga, take it or shut up already

 

[Trequartista]

maybe you want a bet on 200$? I say that Immobile will score 15+ goals in bundesliga, take it or shut up already

You said world class. He's a good league striker but he's nowhere near world class and never will be.