Official Azzurri (Italy) Euro 2008 Qualifier thread (2 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Oh dear, you seem to know very little about the country. Also note that I never claimed to be Italian. Why would I? I'm glad I'm Belgian. You on the other hand do claim to be Italian, when you're not. You're an American. You live in New York, not in Italy. On what basis could you possibly claim to be an Italian? I originate from Africa, we all do, but I'm not Zambian. Please, you know nothing about Italy. The fact you won't tell me when you last visited the country says it all for me.

There's not even a single Napoletano who will say he follows traffic rules. No one in Napoli does. Who do you think warned me for Napoli? Italians. And yeah, if I wanted to, I'm pretty sure I could provide you with stats. And yes, those stats would say there happen a lot of accidents in Campania. The last time I was in Napoli must have been two years ago or something. Maybe less, I don't really know, I've been there so much. You did portray them as killers, because you said I would get killed with that kind of attitude. Geez, I thought you were at least that smart.

If you knew Antwerp, and naturally you don't, you would know it's in many ways the Belgian equivalent of New York. You can have a big mouth over here, but you'll need to back it up. Antwerp is the city that best portrays racial "differences" in Belgium and there's a lot of tension.

Do you do anything on this forum other than insult and anger other members? You talk down to other people like we are all children and your on some pedestal of higher understanding. You find random members and what they have to say then you attack it and say why your so much better. You think your superior to everybody on this forum and whenever somebody proves you wrong you just change the subject and attack that person. Why do you have to show how smart you are and how superior you are to people you know from an internet forum? Pull your head out of your ass or shut up.

 

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[Azzurri7]

I think his point was very clear.
If i was born in Norway, if i lived my whole life in Norway, if my main language is Norwegian, if i went to Norwegian school, if all of my friends speak Norwegian, if i never lived in Croatia and if i speak Croatian just to get by, then i become a Norwegian even though my parents origins are Croatian.

But if i was born from Croatian parents and lived in Croatia most of my life and if i went to live in Norway just recently, then i'm 100% Croatian.

I don't think thats what he meant. But anyway.


Each one to his own I think. Seven isn't in any position to tell or point his finger at members telling them from where they come. He doesn't know Vinman's background, he doesn't know Vinman's roots he doesn't know shit about this man but posts about Juventus and some little off-topic things like the rest of us.

I have nothing to do with this, but get over it Seven ffs, If he's Italian or American or even coming from Angola, what's your fucking problem with it? If he's Italian then he's Italian he doesn't need to prove you thing.

Like delpiero said, sometimes i feel you're only here because the likes of Vinman keep giving you some hard times. You barely talk football, but when it comes to these topics, you're the first one out there to insult and tell people from where they're coming.

Find yourself something else and play with it.

 

[HelterSkelter]

I think Seven is jealous that Vinman is more Italian than he can ever be

 

[Seven]

Do you do anything on this forum other than insult and anger other members? You talk down to other people like we are all children and your on some pedestal of higher understanding. You find random members and what they have to say then you attack it and say why your so much better. You think your superior to everybody on this forum and whenever somebody proves you wrong you just change the subject and attack that person. Why do you have to show how smart you are and how superior you are to people you know from an internet forum? Pull your head out of your ass or shut up.

You don't even know where Italy is, so I won't take your answer into consideration.

 

[Seven]

I don't think thats what he meant. But anyway.


Each one to his own I think. Seven isn't in any position to tell or point his finger at members telling them from where they come. He doesn't know Vinman's background, he doesn't know Vinman's roots he doesn't know shit about this man but posts about Juventus and some little off-topic things like the rest of us.

I have nothing to do with this, but get over it Seven ffs, If he's Italian or American or even coming from Angola, what's your fucking problem with it? If he's Italian then he's Italian he doesn't need to prove you thing.

Like delpiero said, sometimes i feel you're only here because the likes of Vinman keep giving you some hard times. You barely talk football, but when it comes to these topics, you're the first one out there to insult and tell people from where they're coming.

Find yourself something else and play with it.

Look, you've been sucking Del Piero's cock for what, four years now? You barely talk about football as well.

It was exactly what I meant by the way. Vinman's an American. He needs to get over the fact he's not an Italian. It seems to be an American habit to point to ancestors and claim a certain nationality. I thought Americans were true patriots.. be proud of your own country, Vin.

 

[Seven]

I think Seven is jealous that Vinman is more Italian than he can ever be

Vinman doesn't even speak Italian.

 

[Sadomin]

I think Seven is jealous that Vinman is more Italian than he can ever be

Having Italian blood means that you are likely to be shorter than average and have darker hair than most Europeans, and having Italian nationality means that you have an Italian passport. Everything else Italian, such as the culture, is taught by spending time in Italy and with Italians and of course, learning the language.

I am raised by Persian parents, surrounded by a Persian family and I speak the language but my culture will always be Swedish. A simple trip to Iran confirmed this fact. It's very strange to me that someone who doesn't even speak the language can consider himself Italian, but hey, whatever rocks his boat.

Now, Italy is a nice place to visit, but since I find Belgians more attractive, Belgian culture interesting and there's the fact that a Belgian passport gets you to the same places as an Italian, I see no reason for Seven to be envious of Vinman because of his "blood".

 

[Azzurri7]

Look, you've been sucking Del Piero's cock for what, four years now? You barely talk about football as well.

So you admit that you barely talk football and that you're only here to moan and tell the likes of Vinman from where they're and what's their origin and history????

And seriously, what's with sucking Del Piero's cock? How old are you? have some maturity style ffs.... If you can't reply to my post properly than you might just not use your fingers.

It was exactly what I meant by the way. Vinman's an American. He needs to get over the fact he's not an Italian. It seems to be an American habit to point to ancestors and claim a certain nationality. I thought Americans were true patriots.. be proud of your own country, Vin.

See. Here is where you prove you're an imbecile trying to enlighten the man from where he's coming where you don't know nothing about him.

You're the one who needs to get over him. You're probably dying to be an Italian citizen, but hey, nothing is perfect in this world.

It seems that you enjoy picking on Americans and criticizing their country, from Andy, Nick, Vinman, Burke and the list goes on. I hope you're not trying to live the American dream aswell.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Look, you've been sucking Del Piero's cock for what, four years now? You barely talk about football as well.

It was exactly what I meant by the way. Vinman's an American. He needs to get over the fact he's not an Italian. It seems to be an American habit to point to ancestors and claim a certain nationality. I thought Americans were true patriots.. be proud of your own country, Vin.

You dont even know him!!!! For all you know hes 10 times as italian as you are belgian!!

Vinman doesn't even speak Italian.

You realize your acting exactly as i said you do earlier. You ignore the facts and attack people like vinman for no reason. If the man wants to be Italian let him be Italian. I don't understand why you have such a problem with it that you need to argue with him and tell him that he isn't, you again talk like he's lesser then you because you live in your country of origin and he doesn't. Hey JCK look i double posted!

 

[Bozi]

:faq2: come on guys i dont wanna see you two btching everytime i open a thread

 

[Vinman]

Oh dear, you seem to know very little about the country. Also note that I never claimed to be Italian. Why would I? I'm glad I'm Belgian. You on the other hand do claim to be Italian, when you're not. You're an American. You live in New York, not in Italy. On what basis could you possibly claim to be an Italian? I originate from Africa, we all do, but I'm not Zambian. Please, you know nothing about Italy. The fact you won't tell me when you last visited the country says it all for me.

There's not even a single Napoletano who will say he follows traffic rules. No one in Napoli does. Who do you think warned me for Napoli? Italians. And yeah, if I wanted to, I'm pretty sure I could provide you with stats. And yes, those stats would say there happen a lot of accidents in Campania. The last time I was in Napoli must have been two years ago or something. Maybe less, I don't really know, I've been there so much. You did portray them as killers, because you said I would get killed with that kind of attitude. Geez, I thought you were at least that smart.

If you knew Antwerp, and naturally you don't, you would know it's in many ways the Belgian equivalent of New York. You can have a big mouth over here, but you'll need to back it up. Antwerp is the city that best portrays racial "differences" in Belgium and there's a lot of tension.

oh dear, go shove your finger up your ass !!

Have I ever been to Italy before ? The answer is yes, when I was 5 years old...and do I still keep in contact with my family over there ?? Again, the answer is yes...what else do you want to know, Einstein ??

I can speak basic Italian, but understand it very well. No one where I live speaks it on a regular basis, so I havent bothered to keep up with it (I will practice before the next time I go there)

You were in Napoli once, and now your an expert on traffic situations there ?? OK fool, lay the stats on us, I want some numbers !!

I am not portraying Italians as killers, as you so ignorantly assumed, but I know a good ass-whipping is in order if you go there with that attitude...maybe worse. And the same would go if you came to New York, Detroit, or even Buffalo with your mouth. I guess were all killers Be scared, Andries

I really dont care what the fuck you think, as you pretty much offend everyone here... all I will say is that I'm proud of my country (USA), and of my heritage (Italy)

I bet that burns you up !!

 

[X Æ A-12]

:faq2: come on guys i dont wanna see you two btching everytime i open a thread

lol its a forum the whole point of it is to argue over useless shit.

 

[JCK]

This bullshit is NOT to continue beyond this post.

 

[JCK]

Did you see my damn post, Andries?

 

[HelterSkelter]

Having Italian blood means that you are likely to be shorter than average and have darker hair than most Europeans, and having Italian nationality means that you have an Italian passport. Everything else Italian, such as the culture, is taught by spending time in Italy and with Italians and of course, learning the language.

I am raised by Persian parents, surrounded by a Persian family and I speak the language but my culture will always be Swedish. A simple trip to Iran confirmed this fact. It's very strange to me that someone who doesn't even speak the language can consider himself Italian, but hey, whatever rocks his boat.

Now, Italy is a nice place to visit, but since I find Belgians more attractive, Belgian culture interesting and there's the fact that a Belgian passport gets you to the same places as an Italian, I see no reason for Seven to be envious of Vinman because of his "blood".

First of all,Breathe and drink some water.
You took it too seriously.I was only kidding.

 

[Sadomin]

First of all,Breathe and drink some water.
You took it too seriously.I was only kidding.

You said what many in this thread had in mind, though. Let's end this discussion.

I hope Italy qualify, if nothing else but to raise the value of some of our players.

 

[Bjerknes]

Vinman doesn't even speak Italian.

Let me pose a question to you, Andries. You're using a language to define the validity of someone's nationality, but what if the person is retarded or Autistic and cannot speak the language? Does that make them any less Italian?

 

[Seven]

Let me pose a question to you, Andries. You're using a language to define the validity of someone's nationality, but what if the person is retarded or Autistic and cannot speak the language? Does that make them any less Italian?

But Vinman isn't retarded, not that much anyway. The problem here is different. Vinman doesn't have an Italian passport. So he will have to come up with something special to prove he IS Italian. Two possible factors that come to mind are living in Italy and speaking Italian. Vinman lives in New York and does not speak Italian.

Anyway, I'd prefer to have this discussion in the NATW-thread, as JCK does not want us to have it here.

 

[Miss Dangerous*]

I hope Italy qualify

Things are getting even harder!! :confused2

 

[JuveAdam]

But Vinman isn't retarded, not that much anyway. The problem here is different. Vinman doesn't have an Italian passport. So he will have to come up with something special to prove he IS Italian. Two possible factors that come to mind are living in Italy and speaking Italian. Vinman lives in New York and does not speak Italian.

Anyway, I'd prefer to have this discussion in the NATW-thread, as JCK does not want us to have it here.

Ok, from what I gather, Vinman was born in America, lives there his whole life, doesn't speak Italian, has rarely been to the country. None of this matters, his family is Italian, his heritage is Italian, his damn blood is Italian, he feels Italian. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Nothing said here changes that, nothing can take that from him. The guy even says he's proud of America as well as his heritage. I dont see why this discussion has raged on so long. Pointless.