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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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Nah it's not.
Literally most of the big names in the EPL were bought out last two decades (since 2003). Even nothing teams like Man City and now Newcastle.
Also, SkySports do pay ridiculously amount. You cannot convince me that the EPL was a better product when Abramovic bought Chelsea. In fact, the EPL was relatively poor at the time, and the English national team is laughably poor in international competitions.

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It's the oil money that made the EPL great.

1. Man City - oil
2. Newcastle - Oil
3. Chelsea - oil

Am I missing something?
So I'm probs the biggest anglophobe on this forum, but I'd definitely say that while the oil money has accelerated the gap between the EPL, it was already in a position to attract that investment. Nice stadiums, teams and competitions with history, world-class media packaging and a desire to uphold the historical ties while also being unafraid to innovate and push the envelope. The advantage of English's status as the defacto lingua franca doubtless helped them as well.

Serie A had just one of these factors at the turn of the millenium - the history. Maybe two if we consider in that context the stadiums weren't SO terrible. And we were attracting oil money - I'm sure the Tamoil deal was a world record at the time.

Without 2006 it's possible Serie A would have been able to compete with EPL better than La Liga but EPL would still have won out. The conservative mindset of Serie A would have dragged us down inevitably - from the snail's progress in modernising the stadiums and media packaging to Milan and Inter not rejuvenating their squads after their CL victories. That plus 2006 sealed the deal. Tamoil was 2004- at which point Serie A could have kept pace with EPL but even by 2011 the gap was enormous. The balance of top players in EPL vs Serie A had completely changed. Often moving directly a la Shevchenko- and then Milan failing to see the bigger picture and invest that income accordingly.
 

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Are we blaming the EPL now for creating a better product than their competitors?

Oil money enhanced their product sure but saying they became big mainly because of that is such a dumb and naive thing to say.

I mean, you need to ask yourselves why Russians, Arabs and several other foreign investors chose to invest in the EPL than 'superior' La Liga or Serie A.

English language is an advantage but that didn't stop Real Madrid from becoming the biggest football club in the world.

The gall of some people to sit and say EPL destroyed football when you have FIGC criminals scandalizing their domestic league at every opportunity just to bring down it's richest and most resourceful football club.

Butthurt FIGC Serie A supporters are worse than Prem fags
 

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Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,232
Are we blaming the EPL now for creating a better product than their competitors?

Oil money enhanced their product sure but saying they became big mainly because of that is such a dumb and naive thing to say.

I mean, you need to ask yourselves why Russians, Arabs and several other foreign investors chose to invest in the EPL than 'superior' La Liga or Serie A.

English language is an advantage but that didn't stop Real Madrid from becoming the biggest football club in the world.

The gall of some people to sit and say EPL destroyed football when you have FIGC criminals scandalizing their domestic league at every opportunity just to bring down it's richest and most resourceful football club.

Butthurt FIGC Serie A supporters are worse than Prem fags
Do you mean me? I wasn't doing any blaming in that post just saying what I think has happened to create the gap we see how. Push factors in the EPL as well as pull factors in Serie A. They have made so many excellent management decisions and Serie A basically hasn't made any in 20 years.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Do you mean me? I wasn't doing any blaming in that post just saying what I think has happened to create the gap we see how. Push factors in the EPL as well as pull factors in Serie A. They have made so many excellent management decisions and Serie A basically hasn't made any in 20 years.
Not you. To the guy who thinks oil money made EPL great.

As you said, EPL had already created an appealing product even before oil money which became an attractive proposition for foreign investors who further went on to enhance the league. Something Serie A should've done in the 90s but failed miserably.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Serie A had just one of these factors at the turn of the millenium - the history. Maybe two if we consider in that context the stadiums weren't SO terrible. And we were attracting oil money - I'm sure the Tamoil deal was a world record at the time.
This sponsorship deal was more of a side effect of a larger operation. Mu'ammar al' Kaddafi bought a stake at FIAT back in the day.
 
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