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You don't know me enough, I'm highly critical of our players.
That being said, Walcott is a completely different player to Sterling. Walcott is not particularly skillful, he can't dribble, he's not a creative player by any stretch of the imagination, but he's effective, because his movement off the ball is very good, for a team like us, most of our players are central attacking midfielders we'd be stupid to trade Walcott for Sterling, simply because of the type of player Walcott is and the type of player Sterling is.
As for Chamberlain, he might be more similar to Sterling, and while Sterling might be a bigger talent, I'd still not pay big money for Sterling. I don't believe either of them have the potential to be world class to be honest. I do think Chamberlain has the potential to be a good player though, his dribbling ability is quite good, his pace obviously too, and the fact that he's a real bull, very strong physically. He has really poor end product though, so in that he has to improve.
That being said, Walcott is a completely different player to Sterling. Walcott is not particularly skillful, he can't dribble, he's not a creative player by any stretch of the imagination, but he's effective, because his movement off the ball is very good, for a team like us, most of our players are central attacking midfielders we'd be stupid to trade Walcott for Sterling, simply because of the type of player Walcott is and the type of player Sterling is.
As for Chamberlain, he might be more similar to Sterling, and while Sterling might be a bigger talent, I'd still not pay big money for Sterling. I don't believe either of them have the potential to be world class to be honest. I do think Chamberlain has the potential to be a good player though, his dribbling ability is quite good, his pace obviously too, and the fact that he's a real bull, very strong physically. He has really poor end product though, so in that he has to improve.
Personally, I'm not too keen on Wenger staying for a long time. I unlike many others think he didn't do too badly judging the (financial mainly) circumstances during our barren spell, my main gripe with him has been the past two seasons, when he's actually had money to spend and hasn't always spent it very wisely. Personally I wouldn't mind if he stayed on for another year or two, but he really should start delivering, because we're almost on a level playing field now with the other teams in England IMO.
In terms of their squad I think City is on the same level as Chelsea. The difference is in their managers IMO, Mourinho got the best out of every player in Chelsea, while Pellegrini couldn't do that. If City want to compete with Chelsea, they need a manager more than they need players.
You have players like Silva, Kompany, Yaya Toure, and Nasri who have all to varying degrees underperformed this season. City's season would be very different if they haven't. I hate giving credit to Mourinho, but for me, he's the main reason Chelsea won the title this season.
You have players like Silva, Kompany, Yaya Toure, and Nasri who have all to varying degrees underperformed this season. City's season would be very different if they haven't. I hate giving credit to Mourinho, but for me, he's the main reason Chelsea won the title this season.
I'm sure when you say that you're biased by this season's events. If at the start of the year you asked people to compare the two teams: Most people would put players like Kompany and Terry on the same level, Yaya Toure and Cesc as well, Zabaleta and Ivanovic, even Fernandinho and Matic wouldn't have been that far apart.
Obviously Toure had a very inconsistent season while Cesc was the best midfielder in the league for the first half of a season, Kompany was terrible while Terry was rock solid, Zabaleta was hot and cold, while Ivanovic played the best season of his Chelsea career. Fernandinho was poor, and Matic played his best season ever too.
A couple of years ago there were question marks over whether Terry was finished, similarly there were questions marks over whether Hazard will ever be a consistent player.
In hindsight it now looks like Chelsea have the better squad, but that's only because they performed much better this season, which in turn I would argue is only because they had a manager who got the best out of them unlike City.
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Ya, wouldn't mind Carlo at all. His teams play good football, which for me personally is important. Everyone knows who my dream manager is though, but let's not get into that now
Obviously Toure had a very inconsistent season while Cesc was the best midfielder in the league for the first half of a season, Kompany was terrible while Terry was rock solid, Zabaleta was hot and cold, while Ivanovic played the best season of his Chelsea career. Fernandinho was poor, and Matic played his best season ever too.
A couple of years ago there were question marks over whether Terry was finished, similarly there were questions marks over whether Hazard will ever be a consistent player.
In hindsight it now looks like Chelsea have the better squad, but that's only because they performed much better this season, which in turn I would argue is only because they had a manager who got the best out of them unlike City.
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Ya, wouldn't mind Carlo at all. His teams play good football, which for me personally is important. Everyone knows who my dream manager is though, but let's not get into that now
I might have been biased concerning the quality of the squad by their performances the season before that, when they already had Mourinho, but concerning the overall quality of the team, I was dead-sure that Chelsea would win the PL this season. Think I even posted it here somewhere.
City obviously has a great squad, but it's by far not as balanced. Their GK is a level below of both of the Chelsea GKs. Cahill and Terry are for me one of the most underrated CB pairings in the world, while at City Kompany hasn't been up to that standard for more than two years now (here you might probably argue that that's due to a sub-par coach, which I can't really prove or disprove).
The problem with City's midfield is not the individual quality of the players, but rather the balance. They've basically only got Fernandinho and perhaps Milner as defensive cover, both of which are nothing more than decent squad players imo, while Matic had been immense for Benfica for two seasons before his move to Chelsea already. Oscar tracks back, Willian tracks back, Ramires is defensive-minded, Costa does much for the team defensive-wise than Aguero.
The problem with this whole discussion is that I'm obviously basing my ratings on the player's performances of the past two-three years, where Chelsea and City have already had the same coaches. If you're arguing that the performances of the player's during that period were largely due to the respective coaches, it's hard to disprove that
City obviously has a great squad, but it's by far not as balanced. Their GK is a level below of both of the Chelsea GKs. Cahill and Terry are for me one of the most underrated CB pairings in the world, while at City Kompany hasn't been up to that standard for more than two years now (here you might probably argue that that's due to a sub-par coach, which I can't really prove or disprove).
The problem with City's midfield is not the individual quality of the players, but rather the balance. They've basically only got Fernandinho and perhaps Milner as defensive cover, both of which are nothing more than decent squad players imo, while Matic had been immense for Benfica for two seasons before his move to Chelsea already. Oscar tracks back, Willian tracks back, Ramires is defensive-minded, Costa does much for the team defensive-wise than Aguero.
The problem with this whole discussion is that I'm obviously basing my ratings on the player's performances of the past two-three years, where Chelsea and City have already had the same coaches. If you're arguing that the performances of the player's during that period were largely due to the respective coaches, it's hard to disprove that
I'm sure when you say that you're biased by this season's events. If at the start of the year you asked people to compare the two teams: Most people would put players like Kompany and Terry on the same level, Yaya Toure and Cesc as well, Zabaleta and Ivanovic, even Fernandinho and Matic wouldn't have been that far apart.
Obviously Toure had a very inconsistent season while Cesc was the best midfielder in the league for the first half of a season, Kompany was terrible while Terry was rock solid, Zabaleta was hot and cold, while Ivanovic played the best season of his Chelsea career. Fernandinho was poor, and Matic played his best season ever too.
A couple of years ago there were question marks over whether Terry was finished, similarly there were questions marks over whether Hazard will ever be a consistent player.
In hindsight it now looks like Chelsea have the better squad, but that's only because they performed much better this season, which in turn I would argue is only because they had a manager who got the best out of them unlike City.
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Ya, wouldn't mind Carlo at all. His teams play good football, which for me personally is important. Everyone knows who my dream manager is though, but let's not get into that now
Obviously Toure had a very inconsistent season while Cesc was the best midfielder in the league for the first half of a season, Kompany was terrible while Terry was rock solid, Zabaleta was hot and cold, while Ivanovic played the best season of his Chelsea career. Fernandinho was poor, and Matic played his best season ever too.
A couple of years ago there were question marks over whether Terry was finished, similarly there were questions marks over whether Hazard will ever be a consistent player.
In hindsight it now looks like Chelsea have the better squad, but that's only because they performed much better this season, which in turn I would argue is only because they had a manager who got the best out of them unlike City.
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Ya, wouldn't mind Carlo at all. His teams play good football, which for me personally is important. Everyone knows who my dream manager is though, but let's not get into that now
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