Non-Juve Transfer news (official or rumors) (49 Viewers)

[Pablo]

Well, they paid £11m for Emile Heskey in 2000, I think that says it all. But if you look over the last 10-15 years of PL history there are some shocking fees for English players.

Exactly the same in Italy, I have listed them in another thread (maybe this one, not sure)

Balance is needed, when saying things like this.

Italian football started all thsi stupid transfer fee bollocks anyway!!!

---------- Post added 31.07.2012 at 10:29 ----------

What ?I think he's a pretty talented player..Better than most of the young English overhyped talents bar Wilshere..

Without even playing a minute of Elite league football ?? You know this ?? !!

He could get injured....stop developing, loss interest etc.

I honestly beleive that at Everton, we have a player that could be one of the best midfielders England has seen for decades, yet he could just be another Leon Osman. We just dont know yet !

 

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[JuveJay]

Top transfer fees for English players (by PL clubs):

Andy Carroll (Liverpool) £35m (2011)
Rio Ferdinand (Man Utd) £34m (2002)
Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) £25.6m (2004)
Darren Bent (Aston Villa) £24m (2011)
James Milner (Man City) £24m (2010)
Shaun Wright-Phillips (Man City) £22m
Joleon Lescott (Man City) £22m (2009)
Stewart Downing (Liverpool) £20m (2011)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool) £20m (2011)
Jermain Defoe (Tottenham) £20m (2009)
Michael Carrick (Man Utd) £18.6m (2006)
Rio Ferdinand (Leeds Utd) £18m (2000)
Glen Johnson (Liverpool) £17.5m (2009)
Owen Hargreaves (Man Utd) £17m (2007)
Michael Owen (Newcastle) £16.8m (2005)
Phil Jones (Man Utd) £16.5m (2011)
Darren Bent (Tottenham) £16.5m (2007)
Darren Bent (Sunderland) £16.5m (2009)
Ashley Young (Man Utd) £16m (2011)
David Bentley (Tottenham) £15m (2008)
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal) £15m (2011)
Alan Shearer (Newcastle) £15m (1996)
Connor Wickham (Sunderland) £12m (2011)
Peter Crouch (Stoke City) £12m (2011)
Stewart Downing (Aston Villa) £12m (2009)
Gareth Barry (Man City) £12m (2009)
James Milner (Aston Villa) £12m (2008)
Robbie Fowler (Leeds Utd) £12m (2001)
Jonathan Woodgate (Newcastle) £12m (2003)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea) £11m (2001)
Emile Heskey (Liverpool) £11m (2000)
Chris Smalling (Man Utd) £10m (2010)
Peter Crouch (Tottenham) £10m (2009)
Wayne Bridge (Man City) £10m (2009)
Scott Parker (Chelsea) £10m (2004)
Ashley Young (Aston Villa) £9.75m (2007)
Theo Walcott (Arsenal) £9.1m (2006)
Curtis Davies (Aston Villa) £9m (2008)
Peter Crouch (Portsmouth) £9m (2008)
Joe Cole (Chelsea) £9m (2003)
Andrew Johnson (Everton) £8.6m (2006)
Nigel Reo-Coker (Aston Villa) £8.5m (2007)
Dean Richards (Tottenham) £8.1m (2001)
Francis Jeffers (Arsenal) £8m (2001)
Andrew Cole (Blackburn) £8m (2001)
Ugo Ehiogu (Middlesbrough) £8m (2000)
Matthew Upson (West Ham) £7.5m (2007)
Dean Ashton (West Ham) £7.25m (2006)
Jay Rodriguez (Southampton) £7m (2012)
Peter Crouch (Liverpool) £7m (2005)
Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham) £7m (2005)
Seth Johnson (Leeds Utd) £7m (2001)
Andrew Cole (Man Utd) £7m (1995)


Top transfer fees for Italian players (by Serie A clubs):

Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus) €54m (2001)
Christian Vieri (Inter) €49m (1999)
Alessandro Nesta (Milan) €31m (2002)
Antonio Cassano (Roma) €30m (2001)
Filippo Inzaghi (Milan) €30m* (2001)
Francesco Coco (Inter) €28m* (2002)
Francesco Toldo (Inter) €26m (2001)
Alberto Gilardino (Milan) €25m (2005)
Vincenzo Montella (Roma) €25m (1999)
Stefano Fiore (Lazio) €25m (2001)
Christian Vieri (Lazio) €25m (1998)
Fabio Cannavaro (Inter) €23m (2002)
Amauri (Juventus) €22.8m* (2008)
Marco Di Vaio (Juventus) €21m (2002)
Massimo Donati (Milan) €20m (2001)
Giampaolo Pazzini (Inter) €19m (2010)
Angelo Peruzzi (Inter) €19m (1999)
Nicola Ventola (Inter) €19m (1998)
Andrea Ranocchia (Inter) €18.5m (2010)
Gianluigi Lentini (Milan) €18.5m (1992)
Alessandro Matri (Juventus) €18m (2011)
Fabio Quagliarella (Napoli) €18m (2009)
Andrea Pirlo (Milan) €18m (2001)
Domenico Morfeo (Milan) €18m (1998)
Angelo Peruzzi (Lazio) €17.9m (2000)
Gianluca Vialli (Juventus) €17.8m (1992)
Matteo Brighi (Roma) €16m (2004)
Leonardo Bonucci (Juventus) €15.5m (2010)
Cristian Zenoni (Juventus) €15.5m* (2001)
Fabio Quagliarella (Juventus) €15m (2011)
Pablo Osvaldo (Roma) €15m (2011)
Robert Acquafresca (Genoa) €15m (2009)
Alberto Gilardino (Fiorentina) €15m (2008)
Mattia Destro (Roma) €13m* (2012)
Stephan El Shaarawy (Milan) €12.5m* (2011)
Alberto Gilardino (Parma) €12m (2002)
Filippo Inzaghi (Juventus) €12m (1997)
Domenico Criscito (Genoa) €11.5m (2008)
Vincenzo Iaquinta (Juventus) €11.3m* (2007)
Sebastian Giovinco (Juventus) €11m (2012)
Gianluca Zambrotta (Milan) €11m (2008)
Luca Cigarini (Napoli) €11m (2009)
Massimo Oddo (Milan) €10.75m* (2007)
Enrico Chiesa (Fiorentina) €10.7m (1999)
Sergio Floccari (Genoa) €10.5m (2009)
Leonardo Bonucci (Bari) €10.5m (2009)
Luca Cigarini (Atalanta) €10.5m (2008)
Thiago Motta (Inter) €10.2m (2009)
Mauro Camoranesi (Juventus) €10.1m (2002)
Simone Pepe (Juventus) €10m (2011)
Marco Borriello (Roma) €10m (2011)
Fabio Cannavaro (Juventus) €10m* (2004)
Luca Toni (Fiorentina) €10m (2005)
Marco Materazzi (Inter) €10m (2001)
Roberto Baggio (Juventus) €10m (1990)
Roberto Baggio (Milan) €9.5m (1995)
Giampaolo Pazzini (Sampdoria) €9m (2008)
Marco Borriello (Milan) €9m* (2008)
Sergio Floccari (Lazio) €8.5m (2010)
Alberto Gilardino (Genoa) €8m (2011)
Christian Maggio (Napoli) €8m (2008)
Andrea Caracciolo (Palermo) €8m (2005)
Giuliani Giannichedda (Lazio) €8m (2001)
Gennaro Gattuso (Milan) €8m (1999)
Stefano Fiore (Udinese) €7.7m* (1999)
Domenico Morfeo (Fiorentina) €7.7m (1997)
Nicola Legrottaglie (Juventus) €7.55m (2003)
Antonio Nocerino (Palermo) €7.5m* (2008)
Domenico Morfeo (Parma) €7.5m (2005)
Fabio Quagliarella (Udinese) €7.3m (2007)
Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus) €7.3m (2005)
Emanuele Giaccherini (Juventus) €7.2m (2012)
Simone Perrotta (Roma) €7.2m (2004)
Dino Baggio (Parma) €7.2m (1994)
Luca Marchegiani (Lazio) €7.2m (1993)
Morgan De Sanctis (Juventus) €5.2m (1997)
Marco Delvecchio (Roma) €5m (1995)
Pierluigi Casiraghi (Lazio) €4.1m (1993)

*player exchange

 

[Pablo]

Some shockers in that list....get me the Italian list, to compare. You will see just as many shockers !

 

[piotrr]

Top transfer fees for English players (by PL clubs):

Andy Carroll (Liverpool) £35m (2011)
Stewart Downing (Liverpool) £20m (2011)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool) £20m (2011)
Glen Johnson (Liverpool) £17.5m (2009)
Emile Heskey (Liverpool) £11m (2000)
Peter Crouch (Liverpool) £7m (2005)

 

[Pablo]

Man City did not pay £22 Million for Shean Wright Phillips

 

[Dostoevsky]

Those are some pathetic numbers and laughable transfers.

 

[Pablo]

Some of the foreign transfers would make it look even worse.

 

[Xperd]

Andrea Rannochia €16m
Leonardo Bonucci €15.5m
Mattia Destro €19m
Alessandro Matri €18m
Giampaolo Pazzini €19m
Fabio Quagliarella €18m(Napoli) and later €15m(Juventus)
Marco Di Vaio €30m
Antonio Cassano €30m
Stephan El Sharaawy €14m
Alberto Gilardino €30m
Off the top of my head..Most of them in that list were overpaid transfers in my opinion..Dint include the likes of Buffon,Vieri and Nesta in the list.

 

[Dostoevsky]

But Destro wasn't paid 19mln, it's wrong to put it that way. But yes, some of those are pathetic too, but English transfers are much worse.

 

[Xperd]

Whatever ,but it was largely an overpaid transfer in my opinion.

 

[Pablo]

But Destro wasn't paid 19mln, it's wrong to put it that way. But yes, some of those are pathetic too, but English transfers are much worse.

That is exactly the same for the English transfers, Darren Bent was £14 million down, thats for example.

How much was Amauri ?? Iaquinta ?? Melo ??

Some of the other transfers Italian Clubs have paid, are staggering also. Medieta ?? Cladio Lopez ?? Adriano, Vieri, Lentini, That Brazilian to Roma, Fabio Junior was it ??

Crespo, Buffon, Nadved, Salas, Thuram, Cannavaro, Nesta!!!

Conceicoe (sp)!!

 

[Xperd]

Iaquinta was purchased for €12m IIRC..So thats reasonable in my opinion.

 

[JuveJay]

I'm just finishing the Italian list now.

 

[Dostoevsky]

That is exactly the same for the English transfers, Darren Bent was £14 million down, thats for example.

How much was Amauri ?? Iaquinta ?? Melo ??

Some of the other transfers Italian Clubs have paid, are staggering also. Medieta ?? Cladio Lopez ?? Adriano, Vieri, Lentini, That Brazilian to Roma, Fabio Junior was it ??

Crespo, Buffon, Nadved, Salas, Thuram, Cannavaro, Nesta!!!

Conceicoe (sp)!!

I think most of the Italian players are overhyped and overpriced and I've been saying that for a while now. Every DC that comes is valued 15mln+ (Bonucci, Ranocchia, Bocchetti, Astori, Criscito) which is rather pathetic. That's all because of their history and how they always had a good defense, but these names are pretty much mediocre so it's silly, yeah. Buffon, Nedved and Nesto are all amazing, not to say legends, so I have no idea what's your point there as I don't think any club regrets that money.

On the other hand, Carroll alone beats all those transfers.

 

[Pablo]

Amauri was 22.5 Million!!!!

Esneider ?? Kovacavic ??

Players nationality aside, its safe to say both England and Italy have been as stupid as each other, as thes enumbers prove that.

---------- Post added 31.07.2012 at 12:23 ----------

I think most of the Italian players are overhyped and overpriced and I've been saying that for a while now. Every DC that comes is valued 15mln+ (Bonucci, Ranocchia, Bocchetti, Astori, Criscito) which is rather pathetic. That's all because of their history and how they always had a good defense, but these names are pretty much mediocre so it's silly, yeah. Buffon, Nedved and Nesto are all amazing, not to say legends, so I have no idea what's your point there as I don't think any club regrets that money.

On the other hand, Carroll alone beats all those transfers.

Rio Ferdinand, Shearer and Rooney were listed in the above list. So as I said....for balance, you have to look at them all.

 

[Xperd]

Agree..There have been some foreign flop/Overpriced transfers as well from Serie A teams but definitely not as much as English teams..

 

[Pablo]

Its a good debate though gents, no silly name calling, and people using actual examples.

 

[JuveJay]

Amauri was 22.5 Million!!!!

Esneider ?? Kovacavic ??

Amauri was €22.3m, €7.5m of which was Nocerino in exchange.

I'm not talking about foreign players, because that's not part of the discussion. It was about overvaluing of domestic players.

 

[Xperd]

Ok i'll try to make a list of foreign transfers in PL who dint quite cut in England..

 

[Dostoevsky]

Amauri was 22.5 Million!!!!

Esneider ?? Kovacavic ??

Players nationality aside, its safe to say both England and Italy have been as stupid as each other, as thes enumbers prove that.

---------- Post added 31.07.2012 at 12:23 ----------



Rio Ferdinand, Shearer and Rooney were listed in the above list. So as I said....for balance, you have to look at them all.

I think only silly transfers and chokers should be mentioned and that way I do think England has more names.

But I think we both agree that Serie A has stupid transfers as well.