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Nicole

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    He wouldnt transfer the debt to you, he would probably use manchester united to repay the dept. Nothing illegal there.


    And there is already an European Super League. It's called the Champions League.
    I'm talking about a properly LEAGUE, not a 'Cup'
     

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    Nicole

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    An European Super League will never happen.


    Glazer is doing nothing wrong.
    Oh, and how did you come up with that? Why will it never happen?

    Because all these mega-rich Presidents arent intrested in making money right?
     

    Zlatan

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    Because there is already the CL, which is the best and most popular comprtition, and if that so called Super League offers more money to clubs, UEFA will offer even more.


    Again, Glazer is doing nothing wrong.
     
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    Nicole

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    Because there is already the CL, which is the best and most popular comprtition, and if that so called Super League offers more money to clubs, UEFA will offer even more.


    Again, Glazer is doing nothing wrong.
    You think that UEFA are going to be able to OUT-BID every TV COMPANY in the world? Every year? And they would have to do it for EVERY club, because that is what a ESL offers, profits for every club regardless of position.
     

    Zlatan

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    FFS, where do you suppose all this money will come from? The TV companies aready pay for TV rights, and if you think they are willing to pay much more than they are now, you're wrong.

    Where are the plans for this ESL, where are the financial documents, where is the infrastrucutre? Or is it just an idea?

    It's not that easy as you think to create a super league.
     
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    Nicole

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    FFS, where do you suppose all this money will come from? The TV companies aready pay for TV rights, and if you think they are willing to pay much more than they are now, you're wrong.

    Where are the plans for this ESL, where are the financial documents, where is the infrastrucutre? Or is it just an idea?

    It's not that easy as you think to create a super league.
    Really, the G-14 clubs have been discussing this for years, and those TV rights also include lower clubs, in those leagues, like Chievo, Fulham, Mallorca for example, what TV company WOULDNT want the rights to a league, with teams like...Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Milan, Inter, Juve, Real, Barca, Valencia, Bayern etc etc etc.
     

    Zlatan

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    Really, the G-14 clubs have been discussing this for years, and those TV rights also include lower clubs, in those leagues, like Chievo, Fulham, Mallorca for example, what TV company WOULDNT want the rights to a league, with teams like...Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Milan, Inter, Juve, Real, Barca, Valencia, Bayern etc etc etc.
    Sure they would, but they already have that. All of the above clubs were in the CL this season.

    If teams would get more money, that means the TV companies would have to pay more. Would they really want to do that when they already have the CL?

    Besides, where do you think to fit in another 30-ish games? IMO, for vieweres it's more exiting to watch a knock out round than a league.
     
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    Sure they would, but they already have that. All of the above clubs were in the CL this season.

    If teams would get more money, that means the TV companies would have to pay more. Would they really want to do that when they already have the CL?

    Besides, where do you think to fit in another 30-ish games? IMO, for vieweres it's more exiting to watch a knock out round than a league.
    'another'! This is where your going wrong!

    They plan on making a proper LEAGUE. I am talking about the other teams no long players in Serie A, or La Liga or the Premiership.

    That is what I meant, and frankly the TV companies WILL pay because they KNOW 90% of football fans worldwide would watch this league.
     

    Zlatan

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    Teams giving up their national leagues? That especially will never happen!

    Perhaps they would get more money, but the costs would be higher as well.
     
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    Nicole

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    Teams giving up their national leagues? That especially will never happen!

    Perhaps they would get more money, but the costs would be higher as well.
    Why will it never happen? You dont understand that many teams have ALREADY though about this before!
     

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    Did you all hear the latest news about Malcolm Glazer? Investigators in Argentina linked him and his family's money to the inhuman research performed by noneother than Josef Mengele himself! The current theory is that Malcolm's millions, that he later used to buy the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, originated from investments in a biological agent lab that supplied Mengele for his diabolical research on infant twins. And even worse, he borrowed money to fund this laboratory! :rolleyes:
     

    Zlatan

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    You dont understand the complicity of it all. It's not just "You know what Roman? Why dont we start an European Super League where every team will get shitloads of money? 'You're right Malcolm, thats a great idea. What dou you think Massimo?' 'Wow, thats a splendid ideal ol' chaps, I'll get right on it. I'll have Roberto fly up the boys to London next week. Around 8-ish maybe?' Roman: 'Oooh, can't, I promised my son I'd play ball with him, 10 works better for me.' 'Moratti: 'Fine, 10 it is then.'



    Please. Say what you will, teams would have to take a huge risk to do that. Plus they'd have only one title to play for which would mean in a 20 team league 19 teams would end up without any silverware. They would alianate the fans, which would result in lower attendances and less money from marketing, less viewers, and in turn, less TV money.

    The very concept of the ESL is overambitious. Teams wont give up their national leagues.
     
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    Nicole

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    Please. Say what you will, teams would have to take a huge risk to do that. Plus they'd have only one title to play for which would mean in a 20 team league 19 teams would end up without any silverware. They would alianate the fans, which would result in lower attendances and less money from marketing, less viewers, and in turn, less TV money.

    The very concept of the ESL is overambitious. Teams wont give up their national leagues.
    Money is more important to these people. Oh, and yes they WOULD keep watching. And, no those clubs would probably will play in domestic cups, I dont know. But if you think this idea is never going to happen, then you keep burying your head in the sand.
     
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    FFS Nicole, every club needs to have some foothold in it's local league to have gotten into the CL in the first place. What you're suggesting is that Glazer would take Man Utd out of the EPL, and Arsenal, Chelsea Liverpool, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax etc will all up and leave their local leagues to join him. They aren't crazy.

    For instance, Bayern Munich are already signed to some TV company, and for any club to break away from it's local league, there would be legal repercussions from the TV companies for doing so. Each club would be tied up in court for upwards of five years. That's five years of absolutely no football while the lawyers sort it out. Which football player will want to wait around for that long?
     
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    Nicole

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    FFS Nicole, every club needs to have some foothold in it's local league to have gotten into the CL in the first place. What you're suggesting is that Glazer would take Man Utd out of the EPL, and Arsenal, Chelsea Liverpool, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax etc will all up and leave their local leagues to join him. They aren't crazy.

    For instance, Bayern Munich are already signed to some TV company, and for any club to break away from it's local league, there would be legal repercussions from the TV companies for doing so. Each club would be tied up in court for upwards of five years. That's five years of absolutely no football while the lawyers sort it out. Which football player will want to wait around for that long?
    These plans are already being though up, and anyone denying this IS burying there head in sand hoping it goes away, the G-14 clubs have been thinking of this for the past 10 years. Even if the clubs are signed to other TV companies, those contracts are often short-term...

    I also never said that this ESL was going to happen overnight, but in about 3-5 years time, is when its starts to get serious.
     
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    No player will agree to allow his club fuck up his football carreer while they sort out some ESL pissing contest. They'll walk to clubs which have sense. And in the event that they untimately lose the court battle, what happens next? For sure the local leagues wont be waiting around to see what happens. They'll promote some other club to fill the void and kick off their season. So, if you lose the court battle with your TV company, you pay damages thru your nose, then have to go and resume your football from the lowest possible rung of the ladder. To rise back to the top, you'd need maybe three or four years, and that's at a consecutive rate of season wins. With new players. That's probably ten years at least before you're back in top flight football and allowed a chance to get back into the CL. In which period you have:

    a) Lost a lot of money
    b) Lost your best players
    c) Lost a lot of fans
    d) (if you're Glazer), you've suffered a coronary and since been buried.
     

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    Again, the champions league is more than enough. And the financial crisis in football was a result of TV companies refusing to pay overinflated sums of money for TV rights. Why would they go back to that?
     

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