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    Enron said:
    :faq1: Andy was walking in public. Having drank in my room earlier. He did not blow a count greater than the legal limit on his breathalizer. Therefore he was not drunk. And not drunk in public.

    :faq1: The argument is not of a rude police officer but of a wrong police officer. The two accusations are totally different. One usually involves a shouting of Rodney King.

    :faq1: In the US a police officer needs to have probable cause to search or perform tests on a subject. If the officer has no PC his/her evidence may only be heard as heresay in a court of law and therefore chucked out. In this case, in my legal opinion, the officer did not have probable cause.

    :faq1: FREE ANDY!!!
    Thanks for the legal crash course..and I wasted all that money on law school...doh.
    I do not know all the facts but from what I understand Andy's infraction was related to underage drinking for which he was guilty. Whether the cop grabbed his ass beforehand...called him 'pansy' or spit on him is another debate..the point was that Andy committed the offense.
    By the way, hearsay (literal meaning HEAR AND SAY) Hearsay is not automatically inadmissible in court..there are exceptions one of which is statements uttered and heard by a police officer (though Andy's case would not apply to the textbook example as it usually involves the victims words before an event, etc). That said, this would still not be a case of hearsay...but this is not even an issue.

    See my last post...kid was guilty..Pado wasn't his lawyer..so he AIN'T GETTIN OFF :cheesy:
     
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    Padovano said:
    We have a good police saga going on:

    A few months ago an off-duty Raleigh officer was working late night security at a restaurant in a semi-rough part of town. She was leaving for the night, got in her personal vehicle and started the engine. Then somebody from the restaurant waved her back to the door. So the officer got out of her car and went up to the restaurant door to talk with the manager when some crackhead walks up and starts stealing the car. The officer starts to run after the car, pops a bullet through the door and kills the crackhead.

    Police regualtions are clear that you cannot fire at an unarmed person for the protection of personal property, such as a vehicle. A lot of folks are saying it's a murder and a lot of folks say the officer is a hero, and one less crackhead.

    In the end, the Grand Jury refused to indict the officer. She might lose her job, but she won't face criminal punishment.
    There should have been a trial.
     
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    Padovano said:
    No, Nick, I don't deny the suppression of liberties in Castro's Cuba. During my time in Cuba I have felt very much free of government interference but it was obvious that the Cubans were unable to be so comfortable.:
    Suppression of liberties?? That's putting it mildly... 'Dubya' with the Patriot Act and his eavesdropping attempt is a 'cake walk' compared to Fidel's policies: no freedom of speech: be it for citizens or the press. No freedom of association: try to start a political party opposed to his views in Cuba. Apart from human rights violations there is the issue of the economy that is a joke by any standards...of course Fidel will tell you that they want it that way: doctors and engineers want to make the same amount as carpet cleaners and dishwashers...they want citizens to vie not for university positions but for jobs in a resort which is the 'job of jobs' because of tips. People want to drive Lada's in the year 2006.
    The world has created an image of Fidel as the anti-Bush..as the 'hero' fighting the 'evil man from Texas' while their hero has ruled with an iron fist that would make Idi Amin and Stalin proud.

    For the record, I am not a Republican ..nor a democrat..I am a fiscal conservative which Bush is NOT.. I am for human rights to a certain degree...I think the Patriot Act was necessary for the times but is harder to justify. I just think that Bush gets a RAW DEAL in many areas...
    most Bush critics remind me of vegetarians who yell 'meat is murder' while protesting with their leather boots and suede jackets.
     
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    Thanks for the legal crash course..and I wasted all that money on law school...doh.
    I do not know all the facts but from what I understand Andy's infraction was related to underage drinking for which he was guilty. Whether the cop grabbed his ass beforehand...called him 'pansy' or spit on him is another debate..the point was that Andy committed the offense.
    By the way, hearsay (literal meaning HEAR AND SAY) Hearsay is not automatically inadmissible in court..there are exceptions one of which is statements uttered and heard by a police officer (though Andy's case would not apply to the textbook example as it usually involves the victims words before an event, etc). That said, this would still not be a case of hearsay...but this is not even an issue.

    See my last post...kid was guilty..Pado wasn't his lawyer..so he AIN'T GETTIN OFF :cheesy:

    Ohh, he is off, douche-cock.

    But what the problem I had was that you assumed he was drinking in public, he wasn't, nor was he publicly intoxicated.
     

    Vinman

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    Padovano said:
    We have a good police saga going on:

    A few months ago an off-duty Raleigh officer was working late night security at a restaurant in a semi-rough part of town. She was leaving for the night, got in her personal vehicle and started the engine. Then somebody from the restaurant waved her back to the door. So the officer got out of her car and went up to the restaurant door to talk with the manager when some crackhead walks up and starts stealing the car. The officer starts to run after the car, pops a bullet through the door and kills the crackhead.

    Police regualtions are clear that you cannot fire at an unarmed person for the protection of personal property, such as a vehicle. A lot of folks are saying it's a murder and a lot of folks say the officer is a hero, and one less crackhead.

    In the end, the Grand Jury refused to indict the officer. She might lose her job, but she won't face criminal punishment.

    although I would have been pretty pissed off if someone is stealing my car right in front of my very eyes, I would have never fired a shot. It was very reckless for that female officer to do, and she should have known better

    if the perp tried to use the car as a weapon, and attempted to run her over, then thats a different story....
     

    Chxta

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    Suppression of liberties?? That's putting it mildly... 'Dubya' with the Patriot Act and his eavesdropping attempt is a 'cake walk' compared to Fidel's policies: no freedom of speech: be it for citizens or the press. No freedom of association: try to start a political party opposed to his views in Cuba. Apart from human rights violations there is the issue of the economy that is a joke by any standards...of course Fidel will tell you that they want it that way: doctors and engineers want to make the same amount as carpet cleaners and dishwashers...they want citizens to vie not for university positions but for jobs in a resort which is the 'job of jobs' because of tips. People want to drive Lada's in the year 2006.
    The world has created an image of Fidel as the anti-Bush..as the 'hero' fighting the 'evil man from Texas' while their hero has ruled with an iron fist that would make Idi Amin and Stalin proud.

    For the record, I am not a Republican ..nor a democrat..I am a fiscal conservative which Bush is NOT.. I am for human rights to a certain degree...I think the Patriot Act was necessary for the times but is harder to justify. I just think that Bush gets a RAW DEAL in many areas...
    most Bush critics remind me of vegetarians who yell 'meat is murder' while protesting with their leather boots and suede jackets.
    Been a while Nick. Where've you been?
     

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