Nick Against the World (57 Viewers)
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I think it does. If you don't make an effort to learn about the club and it's traditions you're not doing yourself or the club a favor, and it shows that those aspects aren't important to you.
True that. The reason why I enjoyed the book so much is because it's the closest thing I have to actually get a taste of what the football culture in Italy is like, of course apart from travelling there myself...something I need and will do in my life.
If you stay with the club through thick and thin I guess you're not a glory hunter...no. He passed the test of staying with the club through difficult times.
I don't think I'm a gloryhunter because Juventus was the first European club I have ever seen play...if it was Arsenal, Valencia, Dortmund or whoever against somebody I would have remembered those teams and liked one of them. It's not like I have been switching back and forth from clubs...ever since I saw Juve day one I haven't had another club. Personally I think that is worth something, however when I made this case before the response wasnt good.
I also tried my best to follow the side before I could actually watch them regulary on TV...from 2000 to 2003. Even though I couldn't really watch Juventus I still tried to learn about them and keep myself informed.
Oddly enough after we lost in the 2003 Final I became even more in the love with the club...perhaps reminding me of when I first saw them in 98 during the loss to another great club, Real.
True that. The reason why I enjoyed the book so much is because it's the closest thing I have to actually get a taste of what the football culture in Italy is like, of course apart from travelling there myself...something I need and will do in my life.
If you stay with the club through thick and thin I guess you're not a glory hunter...no. He passed the test of staying with the club through difficult times.
I don't think I'm a gloryhunter because Juventus was the first European club I have ever seen play...if it was Arsenal, Valencia, Dortmund or whoever against somebody I would have remembered those teams and liked one of them. It's not like I have been switching back and forth from clubs...ever since I saw Juve day one I haven't had another club. Personally I think that is worth something, however when I made this case before the response wasnt good.
I also tried my best to follow the side before I could actually watch them regulary on TV...from 2000 to 2003. Even though I couldn't really watch Juventus I still tried to learn about them and keep myself informed.
Oddly enough after we lost in the 2003 Final I became even more in the love with the club...perhaps reminding me of when I first saw them in 98 during the loss to another great club, Real.
Ok, as we are talking about glory hunters... That to me also stretches to what makes a fan etc...
This is something i posted on a couple of other forums ages ago...
Dont get offended by this... at the end of the day its jus a question / s ... Though the story / situation is completely true and accurate, the way i have worded my view on it is slightly overdone to get my point across (eg. my opinion isnt necessarily as strong as i have expressed it )
Ive also cut alot out as it was too long to put here...
This is something i posted on a couple of other forums ages ago...
Dont get offended by this... at the end of the day its jus a question / s ... Though the story / situation is completely true and accurate, the way i have worded my view on it is slightly overdone to get my point across (eg. my opinion isnt necessarily as strong as i have expressed it )
Ive also cut alot out as it was too long to put here...
Sorry for my ramblings but the following led me to the questions i ask ::
I am presently visiting a hell on earth that goes by the name of 'New South Wales' for a family wedding
The other day we were somewhat bored and so decided to go off to the local park and have a kick about.
So the 11 of us set off down the path looking for some suitable people to embarass.
As we ventured off the park we saw our victims, all trussed up in the sickly sweet gleaming white outfits, acting all professional and thinking they were gods gift to the game.
So there we were looking shambolic against their lovely team outfits in our rag tag selection of 11 different club jerseys approaching them for a bit of a knock about.
With a bit of encouragement they set about discussing the game and finally with a certain hint of arrogance and delight in telling us how they were in their local 1st division (impressive ehh
) they agreed to the proposed match.
We then had to wait for another 20 mins for there 11th man to turn up.... here is where my first point comes in!
For the first time i had a hint of liking for these people as he strolled across with his white top over his arm and to my surprise wearing a prestine juve top..... I liked this guy, or did I ?
As he drew closer I realised this supposed juve fan was wearing a very obviously fake jersey.
He came over to me happily stating he was a juve fan too.....
After politely saying hi and a little normal drivel I knew the first serious tackle i put in today would be on this guy.
So 1st question::
How the hell can someone call themselves a fan of a team yet happily rip off the club they supposedly love by buying fake shirts above the genuine article?? Do they not see the damage they do??
Anyway we started our match and i thoroughly enjoyed the slaughtering we gave them... and to be fair was most impressed with how gracious they were in defeat..... overall a decent bunch of guys.
Afterwards as one does we sat about having a good drink up in the park and i had a long conversation with this supposed juve fan.
So i asked how many times he had been to the delle alpi .... None
Ok so how many times have you seen them live ..... None
So i thought, well fair enough we are in australia after all, maybe he watches them regularly on tv..... No not really i only get to see a couple of games a year and the odd highlights
The guy in question actually gave me a perfectly reasonable answer to the following questions , but what are your viewpoints??
So that leads me too my final questions ::
Not including those outside of europe , Bearing in mind how cheap it is to travel around europe these days how can you call yourselves fans if you have never been bothered to get up and go see your club, and especially with the number of euro games away from home now days , giving most games that arent too far away ??
It also amazes me that some juve fans in east coast america are not going to juves matches in the states this year..... a better chance you will never have, yet for some fans its too much effort... why??
So why / how are you fans if you havent seen them play at the stadium??
Ahh..... I thought
The TV... Surely the TV
So now looking around various forums i find fans that not only have never been to the stadium to see there team but also virtually never even see them play on tv or indeed have never seen them play.
So my question :
Why / How can you be a fan of a team that you only see a couple of games a year of (and please dont mention highlights - they're not the same).
Seeing so few games you cant really know what your team are about or how they really play... so how / Why ????
Thats it!!
Please dont take offence by this, it is simply a question that i was wondering about.
Personally i could never consider myself a fan of a club that ... A) I hadnt seen live
And / or
B) See at least 80% of their games on tV
So in short .... HOW / WHY ???
Cheers
Anyway its now gone 6 in the morning and i need a nap... i look forward to your answers
I am presently visiting a hell on earth that goes by the name of 'New South Wales' for a family wedding
The other day we were somewhat bored and so decided to go off to the local park and have a kick about.
So the 11 of us set off down the path looking for some suitable people to embarass.
As we ventured off the park we saw our victims, all trussed up in the sickly sweet gleaming white outfits, acting all professional and thinking they were gods gift to the game.
So there we were looking shambolic against their lovely team outfits in our rag tag selection of 11 different club jerseys approaching them for a bit of a knock about.
With a bit of encouragement they set about discussing the game and finally with a certain hint of arrogance and delight in telling us how they were in their local 1st division (impressive ehh
) they agreed to the proposed match.We then had to wait for another 20 mins for there 11th man to turn up.... here is where my first point comes in!
For the first time i had a hint of liking for these people as he strolled across with his white top over his arm and to my surprise wearing a prestine juve top..... I liked this guy, or did I ?
As he drew closer I realised this supposed juve fan was wearing a very obviously fake jersey.
He came over to me happily stating he was a juve fan too.....
After politely saying hi and a little normal drivel I knew the first serious tackle i put in today would be on this guy.
So 1st question::
How the hell can someone call themselves a fan of a team yet happily rip off the club they supposedly love by buying fake shirts above the genuine article?? Do they not see the damage they do??
Anyway we started our match and i thoroughly enjoyed the slaughtering we gave them... and to be fair was most impressed with how gracious they were in defeat..... overall a decent bunch of guys.
Afterwards as one does we sat about having a good drink up in the park and i had a long conversation with this supposed juve fan.
So i asked how many times he had been to the delle alpi .... None
Ok so how many times have you seen them live ..... None
So i thought, well fair enough we are in australia after all, maybe he watches them regularly on tv..... No not really i only get to see a couple of games a year and the odd highlights
The guy in question actually gave me a perfectly reasonable answer to the following questions , but what are your viewpoints??
So that leads me too my final questions ::
Not including those outside of europe , Bearing in mind how cheap it is to travel around europe these days how can you call yourselves fans if you have never been bothered to get up and go see your club, and especially with the number of euro games away from home now days , giving most games that arent too far away ??
It also amazes me that some juve fans in east coast america are not going to juves matches in the states this year..... a better chance you will never have, yet for some fans its too much effort... why??
So why / how are you fans if you havent seen them play at the stadium??
Ahh..... I thought
The TV... Surely the TV
So now looking around various forums i find fans that not only have never been to the stadium to see there team but also virtually never even see them play on tv or indeed have never seen them play.
So my question :
Why / How can you be a fan of a team that you only see a couple of games a year of (and please dont mention highlights - they're not the same).
Seeing so few games you cant really know what your team are about or how they really play... so how / Why ????
Thats it!!
Please dont take offence by this, it is simply a question that i was wondering about.
Personally i could never consider myself a fan of a club that ... A) I hadnt seen live
And / or
B) See at least 80% of their games on tV
So in short .... HOW / WHY ???
Cheers
Anyway its now gone 6 in the morning and i need a nap... i look forward to your answers
now thats not a very nice thing to say, mr moderator. we still outplayed you
who said it wasnt? cant you ****ing read? i said bosnians dived a lot. and they did. and one of your cunts also made a terrible tackle, right at the end. but thats ok isnt it, because you outplayed the spaniards at home. sure, whatever.
who said it wasnt? cant you ****ing read? i said bosnians dived a lot. and they did. and one of your cunts also made a terrible tackle, right at the end. but thats ok isnt it, because you outplayed the spaniards at home. sure, whatever.
About the gloryhunters.
I can say for myself that I am not a true fan, that would buy merchandise, or watch a match when I would have sommething better to do, or going to Turin only to see Juventus. But I am not a gloryhunter, I started cherring for Juventus, because my brother started rooting for them. And also I wouldn't change teams, for another team just because of sucess. I am just a casual fan.
I can say for myself that I am not a true fan, that would buy merchandise, or watch a match when I would have sommething better to do, or going to Turin only to see Juventus. But I am not a gloryhunter, I started cherring for Juventus, because my brother started rooting for them. And also I wouldn't change teams, for another team just because of sucess. I am just a casual fan.