Nick Against the World (63 Viewers)
- Thread starter IncuboRossonero
- Start date
No ones actually mentioned the thoughts those that really matter in all this...
HEYSEL SCARS DIFFICULT TO HEAL
Otello Lorentini, the founder and president of the Association for Victims of the Heysel disaster, admits he is not yet ready to forgive and forget.
Lorentini's son Roberto, a young doctor, lost his life when attempting to help fans injured when a wall collapsed due to rioting Liverpool fans prior to the European Cup final in Brussels in 1985.
"It's not an easy thing to forgive and forget when you lose a son," Lorentini told PA International.
"My son left two children, a one-year-old and a three-year-old. Fortunately, my wife and I have been able to help raise them."
Juventus and Liverpool played the first leg of their last eight Champions League tie last week with the Anfield club paying tribute to the victims before the game.
They meet again in Turin on Wednesday night.
"I didn't watch the game last week," added Lorentini.
"I read the newspapers and I heard the tribute that was paid but those apologies were only directed at the Juve fans and not at the victims."
Lorentini feels a more fitting tribute needs to be paid to those who lost their lives and his suggestion is a friendly game to be played between the teams before the end of the year.
To help his idea come to fruition, Lorentini will meet with Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and Juve president Franzo Grande Stevens on Tuesday.
"I want a friendly game to take place before the end of the year between Liverpool and Juventus in order to honour the victims of the Heysel tragedy," said Lorentini.
"The important thing is that this game takes place this year, maybe before the new season begins in order to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Heysel disaster.
"This game would be a significant factor for us, a sign that the world hasn't forgotten."
One of the Liverpool supporters who was involved in the trouble in Brussels 20 years ago met with Lorentini in Italy. He discovered that the mental scars have yet to heal.
"The fan, who felt remorse, met with me last week and said sorry," said Lorentini.
"I told him that I don't hate anyone but I am not ready to forgive just yet."
Lorentini no longer follows professional football or dares to enter a stadium because "it's too dangerous".
In fact, he will leave Turin straight after Tuesday's meeting.
"In 20 years no-one has made a gesture to remember the victims," added Lorentini.
"I often look at the posthumous medal that was given by the president of the Italian Republic in recognition of my son's bravery and I wonder what was the purpose of it all.
"You go to a football game for entertainment not to lose your life for something so meaningless."
Lorentini's stance on hooliganism has also seen him take up the post of president of the Committee Against Violence.
But his efforts appear to be going unrewarded in Italy, where there are regular outbreaks of trouble.
This past weekend saw 200 Livorno fans fight with police at St Peters station in Rome following their side's 3-1 defeat to Lazio.
"It (violence) is difficult to eradicate it because there are too many interests in football.
"Football has simply become a business."
HEYSEL SCARS DIFFICULT TO HEAL
Otello Lorentini, the founder and president of the Association for Victims of the Heysel disaster, admits he is not yet ready to forgive and forget.
Lorentini's son Roberto, a young doctor, lost his life when attempting to help fans injured when a wall collapsed due to rioting Liverpool fans prior to the European Cup final in Brussels in 1985.
"It's not an easy thing to forgive and forget when you lose a son," Lorentini told PA International.
"My son left two children, a one-year-old and a three-year-old. Fortunately, my wife and I have been able to help raise them."
Juventus and Liverpool played the first leg of their last eight Champions League tie last week with the Anfield club paying tribute to the victims before the game.
They meet again in Turin on Wednesday night.
"I didn't watch the game last week," added Lorentini.
"I read the newspapers and I heard the tribute that was paid but those apologies were only directed at the Juve fans and not at the victims."
Lorentini feels a more fitting tribute needs to be paid to those who lost their lives and his suggestion is a friendly game to be played between the teams before the end of the year.
To help his idea come to fruition, Lorentini will meet with Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry and Juve president Franzo Grande Stevens on Tuesday.
"I want a friendly game to take place before the end of the year between Liverpool and Juventus in order to honour the victims of the Heysel tragedy," said Lorentini.
"The important thing is that this game takes place this year, maybe before the new season begins in order to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Heysel disaster.
"This game would be a significant factor for us, a sign that the world hasn't forgotten."
One of the Liverpool supporters who was involved in the trouble in Brussels 20 years ago met with Lorentini in Italy. He discovered that the mental scars have yet to heal.
"The fan, who felt remorse, met with me last week and said sorry," said Lorentini.
"I told him that I don't hate anyone but I am not ready to forgive just yet."
Lorentini no longer follows professional football or dares to enter a stadium because "it's too dangerous".
In fact, he will leave Turin straight after Tuesday's meeting.
"In 20 years no-one has made a gesture to remember the victims," added Lorentini.
"I often look at the posthumous medal that was given by the president of the Italian Republic in recognition of my son's bravery and I wonder what was the purpose of it all.
"You go to a football game for entertainment not to lose your life for something so meaningless."
Lorentini's stance on hooliganism has also seen him take up the post of president of the Committee Against Violence.
But his efforts appear to be going unrewarded in Italy, where there are regular outbreaks of trouble.
This past weekend saw 200 Livorno fans fight with police at St Peters station in Rome following their side's 3-1 defeat to Lazio.
"It (violence) is difficult to eradicate it because there are too many interests in football.
"Football has simply become a business."
The best tribute that could be paid to honor the 39 dead at Heysel would be for no one else to ever die at the football grounds due to crowd violence. Unfortunately several hundred more people worldwide have died in the stadiums since Heysel. The violence we see in Italy every week is disgraceful and I think it is probably worse than in any other country. If we cannot honor our own dead fans, why should we expect Liverpool to jump through hoops for us?
Mancini counting on Adriano Monday 11 April, 2005
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Inter boss Roberto Mancini has confirmed that Adriano will start in Tuesday’s Champions’ League tie against Milan.
The striker has spent the last three weeks on the sidelines with a knee injury but he’s been passed fit to return to action.
"He will be fundamental for us even if he is clearly not 100 per cent," stated Mancini. "He feels that he is ready to take the risk and he’ll start."
Inter will need Adriano at his best given the 2-0 first leg defeat, yet the South American is confident he is ready.
"I’m happy to be available again," said the 23-year-old. "Like always I will give everything for this shirt.
"I also believe, like the rest of my teammates, that we can go through because it is only right to have faith."
The Nerazzurri need to beat their city cousins by an ‘unlikely’ 3-0 scoreline but Mancini is a believer.
"We want to play at a high pace and we’ll look to use the roar of the crowd to our advantage," added Mancio.
"What will count tomorrow is the hunger of the side. We must be good enough to not let them score, otherwise that would be a massive blow."
Inter have only lost twice this season but those defeats ironically came against the reigning champions.
"I would say that the two teams matched each other in all of the other derbies this term," continued the Sampdoria legend.
"There was never one game in which one team was superior to the other . It is true that we haven’t scored against them in this campaign but they also have the best defence in Europe."
Captain Javier Zanetti added that he believes his side’s mental attitude will be of real importance.
"We are concentrated on the game," said the Argentine. "Our objective is to get through to the semi-finals.
"The match will be difficult and we will need to be perfect in every way. All of us must play with our hearts on Tuesday."
Inter (probable): Toldo; J Zanetti; Mihajlovic, Materazzi, Favalli; Veron, Cambiasso, C Zanetti, Stankovic; Adriano, Martins
What games was he watching ???
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Inter boss Roberto Mancini has confirmed that Adriano will start in Tuesday’s Champions’ League tie against Milan.
The striker has spent the last three weeks on the sidelines with a knee injury but he’s been passed fit to return to action.
"He will be fundamental for us even if he is clearly not 100 per cent," stated Mancini. "He feels that he is ready to take the risk and he’ll start."
Inter will need Adriano at his best given the 2-0 first leg defeat, yet the South American is confident he is ready.
"I’m happy to be available again," said the 23-year-old. "Like always I will give everything for this shirt.
"I also believe, like the rest of my teammates, that we can go through because it is only right to have faith."
The Nerazzurri need to beat their city cousins by an ‘unlikely’ 3-0 scoreline but Mancini is a believer.
"We want to play at a high pace and we’ll look to use the roar of the crowd to our advantage," added Mancio.
"What will count tomorrow is the hunger of the side. We must be good enough to not let them score, otherwise that would be a massive blow."
Inter have only lost twice this season but those defeats ironically came against the reigning champions.
"I would say that the two teams matched each other in all of the other derbies this term," continued the Sampdoria legend.
"There was never one game in which one team was superior to the other . It is true that we haven’t scored against them in this campaign but they also have the best defence in Europe."
Captain Javier Zanetti added that he believes his side’s mental attitude will be of real importance.
"We are concentrated on the game," said the Argentine. "Our objective is to get through to the semi-finals.
"The match will be difficult and we will need to be perfect in every way. All of us must play with our hearts on Tuesday."
Inter (probable): Toldo; J Zanetti; Mihajlovic, Materazzi, Favalli; Veron, Cambiasso, C Zanetti, Stankovic; Adriano, Martins
What games was he watching ???
Forza
Inter
In Europa campione, In Giappone coglione
Milan merda
Milan Milan merda
A MANCHESTER CON IL CULO...
A YOKOHAMA CON LA BOCA !!!!
Rossonero.............
Rossonero.............
Ci senti.........?????
Ci senti.........?????
PEZZO DI MEEEERDAAAA.........
PEZZO DI MEEEERDAAAA.........
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
NON E'BRASILIANO PERO'...
E' ZIINGAROOOOO
I GOAL COME CAZZO GLI FAAA...
SHEVAAAA MERDA SHEVAAA MERDAAA
LALALALALALALALA SHEEEVA MEERDAA SHEEVAA MERDAAA
Vai in Europa,ti porti la Mitropa...
Fai lo spaccone,ti fotto lo striscione...
Guardi in panchina,sembra un maiale vero...
il PORCO VERO,è QUELLO ROSSONERO!!la la la la la la la la la la
SE VAI IN EUROPA TU PENSI ALLA MITROPA
SE FAI IL LEONE TI FOTTON LO STRISCIONE
PER UN RIGORE TI SENTI GIA' CAMPIONE
PERO' NEL SANGUE HAI LA RETROCESSIONE
E MILAN MERDA ALè LALALAALLALALA
ALL'INTERISTA SAI CHE DICO
IL ROSSONERO NON E' MIO AMICO
COME TE ANCHE TUO CUGINO
STA SUL CAZZO AD OGNI JUVENTINO
CON I SOLDI DEGLI ITALIANI
FA GLI ACQUISTI IL VOSTRO GALLIANI
ALTRO CHE PADRONI DELL'INFERNO
SIETE SERVI DI QUESTO GOVERNO
OH BASTARDO DI UN MILANISTA
SARAI IL PRIMO DELLA LISTA
COME PURE IL GRANATA E VIOLA
TANTI INFAMI MA UNA MERDA SOLA
MILAN MERDA ALE
MILAN MERDA ALE
Inter
In Europa campione, In Giappone coglione
Milan merda
Milan Milan merda
A MANCHESTER CON IL CULO...
A YOKOHAMA CON LA BOCA !!!!
Rossonero.............
Rossonero.............
Ci senti.........?????
Ci senti.........?????
PEZZO DI MEEEERDAAAA.........
PEZZO DI MEEEERDAAAA.........
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
ROSSONERO PEZZO DI MERDA
NON E'BRASILIANO PERO'...
E' ZIINGAROOOOO
I GOAL COME CAZZO GLI FAAA...
SHEVAAAA MERDA SHEVAAA MERDAAA
LALALALALALALALA SHEEEVA MEERDAA SHEEVAA MERDAAA
Vai in Europa,ti porti la Mitropa...
Fai lo spaccone,ti fotto lo striscione...
Guardi in panchina,sembra un maiale vero...
il PORCO VERO,è QUELLO ROSSONERO!!la la la la la la la la la la
SE VAI IN EUROPA TU PENSI ALLA MITROPA
SE FAI IL LEONE TI FOTTON LO STRISCIONE
PER UN RIGORE TI SENTI GIA' CAMPIONE
PERO' NEL SANGUE HAI LA RETROCESSIONE
E MILAN MERDA ALè LALALAALLALALA
ALL'INTERISTA SAI CHE DICO
IL ROSSONERO NON E' MIO AMICO
COME TE ANCHE TUO CUGINO
STA SUL CAZZO AD OGNI JUVENTINO
CON I SOLDI DEGLI ITALIANI
FA GLI ACQUISTI IL VOSTRO GALLIANI
ALTRO CHE PADRONI DELL'INFERNO
SIETE SERVI DI QUESTO GOVERNO
OH BASTARDO DI UN MILANISTA
SARAI IL PRIMO DELLA LISTA
COME PURE IL GRANATA E VIOLA
TANTI INFAMI MA UNA MERDA SOLA
MILAN MERDA ALE
MILAN MERDA ALE
OP
Che confusione
sarà perchè tifiamo
è un emozione
che sale piano piano
stringimi forte
e stammi più vicino
e chi non salta
è un porco Juventino
Gobbo alè vengo da te
gobbo alè vengo a torino
gobbo alè vengo da te
vuoi sapere perchè...
ti seguirò ovunque tu andrai
ti seguirò perchè ti odio sai
se corri scappi puoi star sicuro che
quando ti prendo peggio per te!
sarà perchè tifiamo
è un emozione
che sale piano piano
stringimi forte
e stammi più vicino
e chi non salta
è un porco Juventino
Gobbo alè vengo da te
gobbo alè vengo a torino
gobbo alè vengo da te
vuoi sapere perchè...
ti seguirò ovunque tu andrai
ti seguirò perchè ti odio sai
se corri scappi puoi star sicuro che
quando ti prendo peggio per te!
