Nick Against the World (53 Viewers)

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
How long have you been on this forum? All of what, a week? I don't think you have the slightest idea on what that Urchins guy has been posting.

I'm not retracting anything.

Ive been reading since the draw. And I had read most of Urchins posts in that time. But after you made your post I read them all. Theres a search function, its only 20 posts, might prove useful next time before you bust out your silly theories.

Throughout his posts he has always said about peaceful games and even made that post I quoted to Vinman. He hasnt posted anything even remotely pro-hooligan. So I dont think its fair that you have an agenda against him.

To save you the hassle this is the only post he has made that hasnt been wishing for a peaceful game.
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=573721#post573721

So yeah go ahead and show me whats so bad about this guy and why you feel the need to label him as a hooligan? I couldnt give a toss about him, but seeing as he has been very respectful here its hardly fair of you to bad mouth him.

 

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[Chxta]

Maybe we should put you two in a ring!!!

 

[Vinman]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


Sorry but do you know this guy personally? Maybe you want to show him the same respect he has shown you.

Or maybe you just want to post crap like your last post?

Heres exactly what he posted on this forum.

Sorry Joe, maybe this guy posted some tame opinions back in december (if its even the same guy, the guy we speak of goes simply by "the urchins", unless he changed his name), but now, he is looking for trouble.

He has posted some shit propaganda here, and at Xtratime

All he is doing is trying to rile the Juve fans up, HE WANTS TROUBLE IN TURIN

So, again, I hope he goes to Turin, stirs up the shit, and gets what he deserves

I have nothing against Pool fans, but this guy wants trouble

 

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


Sorry Joe, maybe this guy posted some tame opinions back in december (if its even the same guy, the guy we speak of goes simply by "the urchins", unless he changed his name), but now, he is looking for trouble.

He has posted some shit propaganda here, and at Xtratime

All he is doing is trying to rile the Juve fans up, HE WANTS TROUBLE IN TURIN

So, again, I hope he goes to Turin, stirs up the shit, and gets what he deserves

I have nothing against Pool fans, but this guy wants trouble

Oh right. I havent seen his posting on xtratime. His posting here though has been perfectly respectful and hasnt even hinted at pro-violence.

Im sure he wont stir up a thing in Turin, its harder to do it infront of 50,000 than it is infront of your monitor.

And its Jae, though Joe Cole is also a cool guy

 

[Emma]

Nevermind vinny, I called him Jacole first time

 

[IncuboRossonero]

Who cares..the game was played....the story is over....and most fans who attended probably did not fully comprehend Heysel or its immediate effects.

 

[jaecole]

We're talking about the second leg arent we.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
We're talking about the second leg arent we.

yeah the one where after 90 minutes the Liverpool players will look at one another and wonder HOW they let the lead slip away and how they are suddendly eliminated from CL..
oh yeah and why once again English Football cannot match the Italian game.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++


yeah the one where after 90 minutes the Liverpool players will look at one another and wonder HOW they let the lead slip away and how they are suddendly eliminated from CL..
oh yeah and why once again English Football cannot match the Italian game.

Chances of that happening......fairly high.

And true that second statement.

 

[jaecole]

I would hardly call arguably the best team in Italy beating Englands 5th place team a reflection on the leagues quality. I think Liverpool doing that to Juventus, even if it was only brief is in itself a reflection of the strength of English football.

Id like to see Sampdoria beat Chelsea 2-1. We all know that would simply never happen in a European game.

Besides save it, ive never said the english league could match the italian. Frankly I dont care in the slightest. Its not that important. Who really cares? And yes Ive read the honours list aswell, no need to quote it.

For such a superior league though its interesting that the past results between teams of each nation are pretty much equal. And yes to save you the hassle, tournaments arent won over one game.

But English football 'cannot' match Italian football? I think you'll find it can and is increasingly doing so. Dont let a lacklustre win over a down and out MU squad get your hopes spinning. You are in the same draw as Chelsea. So you might want to keep your voice down until you beat them.

But I agree, Juventus will advance. Liverpool quarter finals is good enough for me though.

 

[IncuboRossonero]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
I would hardly call arguably the best team in Italy beating Englands 5th place team a reflection on the leagues quality. I think Liverpool doing that to Juventus, even if it was only brief is in itself a reflection of the strength of English football.

I would hardly call Juventus the best team in Italy. Lets see Liverpool score even one goal against Milan. Manchester United on their supposed HOT STREAK could barely get a shot on net....could only imagine what Liverpool would do...
oh yeah...minus Shevchenko.

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
Id like to see Sampdoria beat Chelsea 2-1. We all know that would simply never happen in a European game..

I could very well see Udinese giving Chelsea a good run ...oh yeah but then Mourinho would say that Udine bribed the ref at halftime with some pasta and a bottle of wine.

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
Besides save it, ive never said the english league could match the italian. Frankly I dont care in the slightest. Its not that important. Who really cares? And yes Ive read the honours list aswell, no need to quote it. .

We keep hearing it OVER and OVER again...in the end of the day Chelsea and Man U are the only English teams that make some sort of European impact...and in Chelsea's case its a Johnny-come-lately thing...
Juve and Milan and even Inter have been in the European 'scenery' for a long time

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
For such a superior league though its interesting that the past results between teams of each nation are pretty much equal. And yes to save you the hassle, tournaments arent won over one game..

Case in point: Ravanelli, Vialli, Zola, Decanio...labelled BURNT out in Italy: move to England and they shine.
WHen was the last time an English player dared try Serie A?

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++
But English football 'cannot' match Italian football? I think you'll find it can and is increasingly doing so. Dont let a lacklustre win over a down and out MU squad get your hopes spinning. You (IncuboRossonero) are on the same side of the draw as Chelsea. So you might want to keep your voice down until you beat them...

ahaahahah down and out? All we kept hearing was how Man U was ON FIRE....
Oh yeah...we had the likes of Costacurta marking Cristian Ronaldo...
and we were minus our best player for BOTH GAMES who also happens to be the Golden Ball recipient.
MAN U was just lucky it did not get ugly...then again looking at the way Wayne Rooney played it was pretty ugly.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Case in point: Ravanelli, Vialli, Zola, Decanio...labelled BURNT out in Italy: move to England and they shine.
WHen was the last time an English player dared try Serie A?

And Joecole, do not use the examples of Crespo and Veron to counter Nick's arguement. Everybody knows South Americans do not play well in the EPL because it's "too ugly."

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++

I would hardly call Juventus the best team in Italy. Lets see Liverpool score even one goal against Milan. Manchester United on their supposed HOT STREAK could barely get a shot on net....could only imagine what Liverpool would do...
oh yeah...minus Shevchenko.

Juventus always struggles in England because of the high balls and crosses, so there is nothing new here.

MAN U was just lucky it did not get ugly...then again looking at the way Wayne Rooney played it was pretty ugly.

Well, I wouldn't call it ugly because Wayne Rooney did not do anything out there against Milan. How can you call nothing ugly?

 

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
I would hardly call Juventus the best team in Italy. Lets see Liverpool score even one goal against Milan. Manchester United on their supposed HOT STREAK could barely get a shot on net....could only imagine what Liverpool would do...
oh yeah...minus Shevchenko.

MU on a hot streak? Not this season mate. Its obvious to everyone that MU are far from on any kind of forum this season.

I could very well see Udinese giving Chelsea a good run

Yeah well to be perfectly honest I couldnt.

...oh yeah but then Mourinho would say that Udine bribed the ref at halftime with some pasta and a bottle of wine.

Thats relevent.

We keep hearing it OVER and OVER again...in the end of the day Chelsea and Man U are the only English teams that make some sort of European impact...and in Chelsea's case its a Johnny-come-lately thing...
Juve and Milan and even Inter have been in the European 'scenery' for a long time

Yeah whos talking about the past here? Im talking about now. Noone doubts Italy used to dominate Europe. England have 'excuses' but like I said I dont care for them.

Case in point: Ravanelli, Vialli, Zola, Decanio...labelled BURNT out in Italy: move to England and they shine.
WHen was the last time an English player dared try Serie A?

The last player to 'dare try' was Jay Bothroyd. Who for a absolute nobody in English football seemed to do ok. Sending washed up players like Lee Sharpe are hardly an indication of how English players cant play in Italy.

There has only been 22 English players play in Italy. How many hundreds of Italians played in England and you can name 4 players? Well out of 22 I could throw out Gazza, David Platt and John Charles (ok she he isnt English). So where are we now? Nowhere. Sitting wasting our time discussing topic I tried to avoid for this exact reason.

Ravanelli burnt out? Please Ravanelli came to Boro fresh off winning a Champions League. Dont talk absolute crap. Vialli was also far from burnt out.

ahaahahah down and out? All we kept hearing was how Man U was ON FIRE....
Oh yeah...we had the likes of Costacurta marking Cristian Ronaldo...
and we were minus our best player for BOTH GAMES who also happens to be the Golden Ball recipient.

Whos we? And who were you hearing this off? All ive heard this season is useless MU are and how great Chelsea are.

No worries Andy I wont. Though too ugly is hardly a reason for Crespo missing more sitters than Henry with Juve. Opps sorry theres another one!

And come on, Its Jae. Jae! As in James.

 

[Bjerknes]

Shall we start an Henry debate here? A player who only performs consistently in the EPL? Hmm, been over this one before.

And I will be calling you JoeCole from now on. Get used to it buddy.

 

[jaecole]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Shall we start an Henry debate here? A player who only performs consistently in the EPL? Hmm, been over this one before.

And I will be calling you JoeCole from now on. Get used to it buddy.

Kinda like Del Piero. But he seems to be popular.

 

[Vinman]

Jae, Joe, whats the difference ???!!

Jay Bothroyd was totally anonymous in Italy...

but here's another name for the list (even though he's not English):

Mido

He couldnt even get into the lineup at Roma, but is shining at Totterham

You bring RVN or Henry(again) to Serie A, and they will be a shell of themselves

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by jaecole ] ++


Kinda like Del Piero. But he seems to be popular.

That could be debated.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i can live with the fact that a bunch of morons think Manure and english teams are the best thing to happen to football since pele but the constant "oh my god i cant believe milan is actually attacking ? milan came here to defend. they havent scored since 15 years. " that is what i cannot accept. esspecially after the constant ass-kicking that milan did to manchester.

after this game i imagined what andy goes through everytime

 

[flieeeekke]

when man utd are mentioned what comes to mind is 3-0 at delle alpi, 2-1 at old trafford, 1-4 in usa tour, 1-1 and 2-3 in 99. they may suck ass but that ass certainly isnt ours...