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    Vinman said:
    big question this week is whether the World Champions can get back on track against Ukraine and Georgia...or is this the end for DONEadoni ???
    Vinni you are too harsh on Donadoni...I never agreed with the choice to select him..he was not tested enough and did not have experience plus did not really have as much as a system as everyone believed. That said, not everyone will win you World Cups...yes, Lippi was good but I don't think he was great. Some choices were straight out odd and many times sheer unforeseeable luck (Grosso) saved them from the BRINK. At the end of the day they won and that's important but his choice of strikers was poor (Iaquinta and Toni being given way too many chances and Pippo being given 20 minutes) That and the bitter Juventini & Milanisti being labeled cheats gave them added incentive to shut the world up....

    His name is in the history books...Forza Azzurri and so on..

    That said, Italy went with a young coach...the team has just won the World Cup...players are playing all over Europe....many things changed in 3 months....
     

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    Vinni you are too harsh on Donadoni...I never agreed with the choice to select him..he was not tested enough and did not have experience plus did not really have as much as a system as everyone believed. That said, not everyone will win you World Cups...yes, Lippi was good but I don't think he was great. Some choices were straight out odd and many times sheer unforeseeable luck (Grosso) saved them from the BRINK. At the end of the day they won and that's important but his choice of strikers was poor (Iaquinta and Toni being given way too many chances and Pippo being given 20 minutes) That and the bitter Juventini & Milanisti being labeled cheats gave them added incentive to shut the world up....

    His name is in the history books...Forza Azzurri and so on..

    That said, Italy went with a young coach...the team has just won the World Cup...players are playing all over Europe....many things changed in 3 months....
    I agree with what you're saying, but my total contention here is whether he should have ever been chosen as our coach...he was a very good player, I cannot take that away from him, but to coach the Azzurri with such limited experience ??

    There were other options out there, and I think Prandelli of Fiorentina was the best possible choice

    its going to be a real shame if we dont get through the Euro qualifiers after just winning the WC...we would be pulling a reverse Greece

    I dont think Donadoni will be around if we dont win the next 2 games....
     

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    same here.After those two games, if there wasnt a win then he would be chopped.


    For me, i think he failed in his player selection and some of his tactics.And most importantly the team spirit.The latter points were quite surprising, as he used to be a very good tactian in his Livorno days as well as motivating his players to the Max.

    Now he called in some of the WC winners.Mybe they could bail him out.It will be interesting to see wat happens in that situation.
     

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    I'm ignorant on the issue but tell me how the 'The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act' will not deter some degenerate gamblers from wasting away their paycheck in online casino's...yes, the degenerate may play it at the tracks or he may just take a few gulps of his king can pass out and the next day be thankful his money was not wasted just a few clicks away from him.
    I was under the impression most online casino's were incorporated in places like Gibraltor and those safe haven islands....will the bill not drastically cut down the number of sites a degenerate can RUIN himself in??
    Ahhh, but you're looking at the demand end. My contention is that the Act was driven from the supply side.

    Meaning: "Unlucky Bob can squander his childrens' college funds away at the craps tables, just as long as it's our craps tables."

    Vinman said:
    I agree with what you're saying, but my total contention here is whether he should have ever been chosen as our coach...he was a very good player, I cannot take that away from him, but to coach the Azzurri with such limited experience ??
    It was a rash decision necessitated by retards who forced Lippi's hand. And as said before, Lippi was no super-coach in this WC. To be honest, if not for the motivation of calciopoli and Pessottino, Italy could have easily gone home early (if not against Australia).

    Donadoni was one of the best available at the time, though certainly not the best possible choice. I still think the guy deserves an honest shot, though. But you're right in that I can see him on his way out -- resigning under pressure.
     

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    Viel Glück zum Geburtstag Komrad Bürke. Heute ist auch der tag des deutschen Einheit!! Two reasons für viel Bier zu trinken. Zum Wohl :pint:
     
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    sateeh said:
    same here.After those two games, if there wasnt a win then he would be chopped.


    For me, i think he failed in his player selection and some of his tactics.And most importantly the team spirit.The latter points were quite surprising, as he used to be a very good tactian in his Livorno days as well as motivating his players to the Max.

    Now he called in some of the WC winners.Mybe they could bail him out.It will be interesting to see wat happens in that situation.
    He had the BIG World Cup winners on the first squad...despite popular belief the pillars were Buffon, Cannavaro, Zambro, Grosso, Pirlo and Gattuso...Pirlo and Canna over the rest...the Del Piero's, Toni's, Inzaghi's contributed here and there..the Perotta's, Gila's and Camoranesi's a bit more..
    but to suggest that DP is the missing link is just ridiculous...please lets not over inflate that one goal he scored

    Lets not forget that Cannavaro post World Cup has been horrible with Real and Pirlo is dead tired....many players were injured and most importantly they were back playing less than two months after they won the WC
     
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    ReBeL said:
    Yes, I know...Ancelotti is much better:pumpkin: ...
    not really the issue ... what kind of childish remark is this??

    More over, the last time the two met in a big match was the 2003 final in Manchester...

    Lippi has a track record as does Ancelotti but it is spit in the windshield compared to Capello who dominated with Milan (save Europe) brought Roma to another level and made Juve flawless

    Lest we forget Lippi with Inter: possibly one of the most horrible selections, purchases and debacles in the history of Inter
     
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    not really the issue ... what kind of childish remark is this??

    More over, the last time the two met in a big match was the 2003 final in Manchester...

    Lippi has a track record as does Ancelotti but it is spit in the windshield compared to Capello who dominated with Milan (save Europe) brought Roma to another level and made Juve flawless
    Lest we forget Lippi with Inter: possibly one of the most horrible selections, purchases and debacles in the history of Inter
    come again?
     

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    He had the BIG World Cup winners on the first squad...despite popular belief the pillars were Buffon, Cannavaro, Zambro, Grosso, Pirlo and Gattuso...Pirlo and Canna over the rest...the Del Piero's, Toni's, Inzaghi's contributed here and there..the Perotta's, Gila's and Camoranesi's a bit more..
    but to suggest that DP is the missing link is just ridiculous...please lets not over inflate that one goal he scored

    Lets not forget that Cannavaro post World Cup has been horrible with Real and Pirlo is dead tired....many players were injured and most importantly they were back playing less than two months after they won the WC
    ofcourse Alex is not the missing link, but this guy's influence on any team is just undeniable.Especially with the captain not in his best form as u stated.

    lets wait and see wat can he do, remember he has only been there 3 or 4 matches now.
     

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