Vinman said:
I never knew that the IRA or ETA would attempt to wipe out an entire city, like what we'll be looking at in the near future...
So you're a prophet as well.. Have you anything to back that up?
How exactly are they ghonna wipe out an entire city in the us... Dont tell me, al qaeda are gonna nuke new york.. get a grip
nor do they have the capabilities that Al Queida possesses
Lol... You should really learn something about these groups before you talk about them...
then lets just sit here and pretend that it isnt happening
Did i say that? Oh thats right i didnt, I said you are going the wrong way.. a way that fuels terrorism and hatred... I never said to ignore it at all
I think we have a pretty good idea of who wants to bring down this, and other western countries...
Do you now.. bullshit, going by your way of thinking the likes of reid etc would have been missed... The fact is there are many people of all creeds that share these beliefs and are more than willing to follow that path... You have no idea who is gonna participate in these acts and definately not by their race...
really ?? Who ?? name for me anyone else from outside of Al Queida, who's main purpose is to destroy this country ??
Try reading what i wrote, i wasnt talking about groups, the facts are that many of the people that carry out and aid in these atrocities are citizens of your country, are longterm residents, are law abiding citizens that no one suspects... living quietly minding their own business until the day they decide to carry out an attack... These people cannot be stopped and cannot be found... Catch a few and theres plenty more jus sitting within their comfy homes in your country waiting to step up...
If people really want to carry out attacks, however much you tighten security and steal the civil/human rights of the people that make your country, they will do it... theres nothing you or anyone else can do to stop it..
ok...if we just sit back and do nothing, MAYBE they wont attack us :rolleyes2
Again, never said that
you already said that we can't beat it.....
No.. I said you cannot just stop attacks, you can however stop the reason for the attacks... If you remove the reason for the terrorism and the hatred, then the attacks will also stop...
But that can only be done around a table.. not by force... you jus breed more and more hatred and in so doing rip the heart out of your country with the continual removal of your citizens human rights... As such whether they kill you or not.. they are winning not you... Whats the point of living in the state you are creating... None in my book... Seemingly agreed with by the thousands of americans deserting your country year after year (Emigration figures for american citizens has gone up ten fold since 9/11 and is increasing every single year)