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Geof

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May 14, 2004
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Fiorentina supporters decided to react after being relegated to Serie B. They blocked the Firenze train station and blocked the rails of the Roma-Milan high speed train, causing delays up to 6 hours.
 

Byrone

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Dec 19, 2005
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Geof said:
Fiorentina supporters decided to react after being relegated to Serie B. They blocked the Firenze train station and blocked the rails of the Roma-Milan high speed train, causing delays up to 6 hours.
That does not bode well for the club's appeal.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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king Ale said:
IMPORTANT! :D

Suppose this story:

1)I'm Roger Federer !!

2)Before the final of Wimbeldon,my father who thought that I would lost to Rafael Nadal for the 5th time,decided to kill Nadal !!

3)Nadal was killed,so he couldn't take part in the final match so I named as the winner of Wimbeldon !

4)After a while,the police,discovered that my father has killed the poor guy.

5)My father is arrested.he confessed.he's executed !!

6)I had to give the title back to the International Tennis Federation !

7)should I have to go to prison?should I have to be banned from all the other Masters of the next season?should I have to be punished because of what my father has done?
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well now simulate this story by these names:
Juve is Roger Federer...
Moggi is the father...
all the teams who have been cheated by Moggi are Nadal !...
Wimbeldon is Calcio and its cup is the Scudetto !...
--Moggi has been fired(he also got some other punishments).
--We lost our 2 scudettos (2 scudettos which the players did their best to gain it.without knowing about the match fixing,players fought for each point they got)
BUT
why we have to be relegated?
here is where I can't get the law.
same story with Monica seles and steffi Graf..
a german psychopath attacked her with a knife during a game.. she was not able to play for months (I think)...
Steffi was able to win more titles in this time..
is this cheating? must she give the titles back..
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
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Byrone said:
Gavino Nieddu assesses the punishments handed down in the match-fixing trial and worries that the federation has cut off its nose to spite its face...

Just when I think people could not get any stupider, the “Gazzetta Delle Stupidagine” releases another eye-rolling cover story that confirms that intelligence is in a downward spiral.

Congratulations Italia, as you sit on top of the world you’ve managed to self-destruct again. I suppose it is in Italian nature. Like the mighty Ancient Romans did, the neo-Romans have a habit of reaching the heights and falling on their face by their own hands. It hurts to say it, but this time it will look good on them. They should have known better.

In 1982 Italy claimed their 3rd World Cup and sat on top of the football world. It too took place in the midst of a scandal that saw Lazio and Milan relegated to Serie B. What was accomplished? Serie A wound up with lesser quality teams replacing giants. Star players left. Other squads elsewhere in Europe benefited from an open market of players, and less competition. Even the teams that remained in Italy’s top flight suffered from lack of competition as rival squads were no longer there and in their place, mediocre lower tier teams played. The quality of the game was not elevated, ratings and attendance dropped and in consequence revenues dropped as well. Lo and behold, years later corruption cropped up again. Why? The system was never fixed. Teams were just thrown out and the ones that remained kept up the cheating.

Is it any wonder that with this sudden drop in quality in Italy it took almost a decade to bring Italy back to competitive standards? It took 7 years for Italy to lay claim to a UEFA Cup (Napoli). In the '80s Italy claimed 1 Cup Winners' Cup (Juventus). Italy did win 2 Champions' League titles in the '80s (Juventus '85/Milan '89) but by then Milan had had 7 years to rebuild. That’s a big difference from the 13 European trophies claimed by Italian teams in the '90s. The worst affected, however, was our National Team. Does anyone remember how Italy did in Euro 84 in France? Probably not, since they weren’t there after failing to qualify. They got the boot early in the '86 World Cup in Mexico after being automatic qualifiers at the hands of France. By '88 in Germany they were looking better but still got hammered by the Soviets in the Euro Cup. It wasn’t until Italia ’90 that Italy were back to being the football powerhouse they used to be. Are we ready to go through all that again? This time might be worse. This time it’s not 2 squads, it’s 3.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think they should have turned a blind eye. The guilty individuals certainly should have been punished. The system needs significant strengthening as well. To throw out 3 massive squads however is detrimental. The way in which everything took place makes one think that it almost had more to do with overthrowing a major football powerhouse that had simply become too dominant than fixing a faulty system. The sheer imbalance of the punishments certainly points to that motive. So does the imbalance of the investigation. Why were so many teams not investigated after having their phone calls intercepted revealing their active participation in this corrupt system? Inter’s president was overheard calling the same individuals Moggi called and for the same purposes for example, yet Inter were not further investigated. Roma’s elaborate gift-giving to referees surfaced as well; still no investigation. Milan’s system (which paralleled Moggi’s) was unveiled yet they remained in Serie A. Milan’s indirect sponsorship of Collina through OPEL was also revealed, yet no action was taken. A long list of other teams ranging from Serie A to C were also named and never dealt with. Why the double standards?

Only the big wigs of the Italian system will ever really know. The end result is that a few Italian teams will have to rebuild from the guillotine they are being led to (barring what I fear will be futile appeals). The system hasn’t changed or been reinforced and in a little time we will likely have another scandal on our hands. Interest, ratings, attendance, and revenues will all drop while other leagues and non-Italian teams reap the benefits. History is set to repeat itself, and we the Italian football fans are the ones who will suffer the most.

Maybe if everyone saw it in this light, certain bloodthirsty Italian fans would realize that they have very little to celebrate. Consequences should never outweigh benefits. I fear this time they will. I just hope for all our sakes that it doesn’t take 8 years to rebuild again.

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IncuboRossonero

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    @ Burke: All my life people in our great democratic nation reminded me I had nicknames such as "guinea" "wop" and "greaseball"...now when I rightfully celebrate the Italian Win I am questioned....great logic.

    @ Jeeks: Says the Milanista that was screwed by Juve too many times to remember.

    @ Pado: Love the avatar .... bald dudes with muscle...what more can you ask for? Oh yeah a styrofoam prosciutto on his shoulder :pint:
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    @ Burke: All my life people in our great democratic nation reminded me I had nicknames such as "guinea" "wop" and "greaseball"...now when I rightfully celebrate the Italian Win I am questioned....great logic.

    @ Jeeks: Says the Milanista that was screwed by Juve too many times to remember.

    @ Pado: Love the avatar .... bald dudes with muscle...what more can you ask for? Oh yeah a styrofoam prosciutto on his shoulder :pint:

    Del Piero with a fake proscuitto? Never would happen.
     

    The Pado

    Filthy Gobbo
    Jul 12, 2002
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    IncuboRossonero said:
    @ Burke: All my life people in our great democratic nation reminded me I had nicknames such as "guinea" "wop" and "greaseball"...now when I rightfully celebrate the Italian Win I am questioned....great logic.
    YES! Reminds of the famous, "You guineas are in America now." So . . . we are only Italian when it can serve as an insult. Once Italy celebrates a great moment we magically become Americans. Force Feed that shit to the rednecks. :eyebrows:
     

    Vinman

    2013 Prediction Cup Champ
    Jul 16, 2002
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    The Pado said:
    YES! Reminds of the famous, "You guineas are in America now." So . . . we are only Italian when it can serve as an insult. Once Italy celebrates a great moment we magically become Americans. Force Feed that shit to the rednecks. :eyebrows:

    All my life people in our great democratic nation reminded me I had nicknames such as "guinea" "wop" and "greaseball"...now when I rightfully celebrate the Italian Win I am questioned....great logic.

    sounds all too familiar
     

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