Nick Against the World (52 Viewers)

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Fliakis said:
park ji sung is a great player actually. ok, not great but on par with our wide men imo.
imo, i think our wide men r miles ahead of him.Mybe its the english game, but i dont think hes good enough to play in the top leagues.

I reckon the other Korean wide man(forgot his name) hes the guy with the white hair or blonde dont know wat was it really, in the world cup.He scored that free kick against togo
 

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Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Lithuania was damn lucky that we couldnt finish last night

it should have been 3 or 4 to 1

we controlled the whole damn game...their chances were few
 

Byrone

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Dec 19, 2005
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Congrats Nick not only have you managed to babble bullshit but you have made yourself look like a jackass.

Not only is Rob a stand up guy he's probably one of the most sincere & down to earth ppl i have met.So pls kindly take ur crack ass comments & shove them where the sun dont shine.

You just look for reasons for ppl not to like you in this forum.:disagree:
 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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Fliakis said:
campioni del mondo my arse!


woohoo!!!

:pint::pint::pint::pint:

Right. Champions of the World, until somebody tries to knock us off ---- in 2010. Until then we don't have to prove shit.


Which is why Italy will fail to qualify for Euro 2008, I am sorry to say.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Fliakis said:
still, dont you think that number is incredibly high? they fucking priests, not some uneducated lowlifes that fuck everything that moves..
As someone who was originally raised Catholic, I think the number is pretty high myself. A bit of that seems to do with the fact that x% of humanity is going to be deemed "deviant", no matter what. And for a subset of people in Western societies where their own sexual inclinations violate social norms, a good chunk of people with these personal conflicts are going to seek escape from these internal vs. societal conflicts by diving into religion.

But note here I didn't say Catholicism -- I said religion. Perhaps offices in most other Western religions don't have the same level of socially recognized vows and piousness as priests, but this phenomenon is in no way unique to Catholic priests. It's just that Catholic priests come with all the symbolic baggage that makes for a more poignant story.

The sins of a Jimmy Swaggart and a Jim Baker are good fodder for the hypocrisy chatter that socieities eat up, but those of people in collars with vows of chastity add a little more to the sensationalism. And there's even the anti-porn lobbyists, for example. There's an old Freudian psych term of "projection", where you secretly, intensely love the very thing you so publicly detest -- which completely explained the abhorrently sick and perverse porn examination called the Meese Report that was put together by so-called anti-porn advocates in the late 1980s.

While I have no evidence to back this up, I am every bit convinced that there's at least as great a proportion of secret child molesters in public anti-child-molesting advocate organizations as there are in the Catholic priesthood. This is just a reflection of human nature and its psyche rather than any organizational influence per se.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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swag said:
But note here I didn't say Catholicism -- I said religion. Perhaps offices in most other Western religions don't have the same level of socially recognized vows and piousness as priests, but this phenomenon is in no way unique to Catholic priests.
I'm not so sure about that but even if that type of thing rarely or never happens in protestant circles it is because of circumstance. Protestantism (in this country anyway) doesn't particularly allow for it. No church choirs, virtually no youth groups at all. Protestantism is basically a bunch of people coming together to read from the bible of which one is appointed to lead the meetings (the vicar).

Basically the protestant equivalent of a catholic priest has nobody to screw. Pardon the bluntness.
 

swag

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The Pado said:
A sacrifice to Fappy might just improve your Fappy Count by 100%
Fappy is definitely a pre-historical idol. Evidence of his worship dates back millenia in cultural references as widespread as Shakespearean plays, ancient Roman Pompeii, and Indian representations of Shiva. But alas, Fappy is universal.

For someone who comes from a long line of Shimkuses and Keturakises, there's just something more special about having people in your family tree worshipping gods of thunder (like Perkūnas) while the rest of Europe was just a century or two shy of the Protestant Reformation.

That is, as they say, badass in my book. :smoke:

 

The Pado

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Jul 12, 2002
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IncuboRossonero said:
This has been available in ALL MEDIA SITES since the beginning of the trial..no one bothered to read it instead they read BERLUSCONI MILAN CHEAT and made their own conclusions..
what ACTUALLY occured and what people SEEM to think occured is night and day....
its also ironic that we are called CHEATERS when in the fact the games in question when Juve received help are those in which we were toe to toe with Juve fighting for the scudetto....only to see the lead slip ..
and in the end INTER gets crowned champs

yeah makes a lot of sense

Actually you are wrong.

No media outlet has yet printed the evidence that was actually presented at the hearings. it is almost as if media was barred from the hearing room. We all are in the dark about what the real evidence is.

Inter was not crowned Champions of the season you are talking about. That Scudetto has been vacated. Inter was assigned the Scudetto following a season where there has been absolutely no suggestion of foul play.
 

swag

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Erik-with-a-k said:
I'm not so sure about that but even if that type of thing rarely or never happens in protestant circles it is because of circumstance. Protestantism (in this country anyway) doesn't particularly allow for it. No church choirs, virtually no youth groups at all. Protestantism is basically a bunch of people coming together to read from the bible of which one is appointed to lead the meetings (the vicar).

Basically the protestant equivalent of a catholic priest has nobody to screw. Pardon the bluntness.
You make it sound as if Catholicism has mystical ceremonies where children and held in captivity for long stretches of unsupervised time.

Maybe in some parts of the world, perhaps. But as a Catholic education survivor myself (I attended Catholic schools attached to a parish for 11 years), they let us play outside, didn't lock us in private rooms behind the vestibule to "read scripture", didn't require "private shower time" with the clergy, etc... :confused2

I think you may be surprised with how much my Catholic experience compared with your average non-denominational homo sapien growing up in the neighborhood.
 

swag

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The Pado said:
Ahhhhhhhhh.
I just had hand sex with Andy's attorney. Luv that reach-around.
Time for a smoke.
:smoke:
You should try his arm pit. You don't know what you're missing. :smoke:

Did you know K-Y jelly now comes in a roll-on form?

The Pado said:
Which is why Italy will fail to qualify for Euro 2008, I am sorry to say.
As in 1982, history could repeat itself. :doh:
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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swag said:
You make it sound as if Catholicism has mystical ceremonies where children and held in captivity for long stretches of unsupervised time.

Maybe in some parts of the world, perhaps. But as a Catholic education survivor myself (I attended Catholic schools attached to a parish for 11 years), they let us play outside, didn't lock us in private rooms behind the vestibule to "read scripture", didn't require "private shower time" with the clergy, etc... :confused2

I think you may be surprised with how much my Catholic experience compared with your average non-denominational homo sapien growing up in the neighborhood.
My point is that a protestant vicar won't even see any kids unless he gets married and hooks up his wife. Catholics have schools, sunday schools, boy choirs (seriously wtf) and all that stuff. I'm sure you were called in at the Priest's office (or one of those characters in a robe) every once in a while, no?

If you're into that type of thing, becoming a Priest is one option, another is becoming a school teacher. A vicar? Definitely not :D
 

swag

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Check out this trippy bit of news -- from someone who captained a club that literally took it in the ass in '05:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep3b.html

Mazzone: Moggi was all talk
Sunday 3 September, 2006

Carlo Mazzone has come out to defend Juventus and the Calciopoli-hit clubs, claiming there was no actual cheating going on.

“Seeing the Scudetto on Inter’s shirt makes me feel pessimistic and irritated. The title is earned on the field and not because others were punished for some non-existent sporting fraud charges,” said the grand old man of Italian football.

“There were attempts to get a better angle, but on the field Juventus won fair and square. I worked with Luciano Moggi at Roma and let me assure you that he is the biggest boaster in Italy, while behind him there is an army of younger versions who have learned his lessons. Moggi’s biggest crime was of vanity.”

The former Juventus director general’s wiretapped phone conversations were at the centre of the Calciopoli trial and saw the club stripped of two titles and demoted to Serie B. Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina were also punished and docked points from the 2006-07 season.

“In order to understand Calciopoli, you have to make a distinction between those who work in football and those who act behind the scenes,” explained Mazzone to newspaper 'Tuttosport’.

“Clubs, Coaches and players represent the crucial and healthy foundations of the whole sport. Without a good co-ordination between these elements, it’s an immediate crisis. Then there is another world, I say it’s in the shadows, full of people who boast of their power to get absolutely anything done. Their catchphrase is 'I’ll take care of it’. They’re the ones I always tell to mind their own business and leave me alone. This isn’t just an issue with Juventus, it’s the case everywhere.”

The wiretapped telephone conversations are effectively the only evidence of pressure on referees to help fix certain results and the majority of the 'men in black’ were cleared of wrongdoing. Mazzone’s suggestion is that the statements held up in front of the judges were in fact little more than boastful talk from people without any real influence to exert.

Mazzone left Livorno after a dismal spell on the Amaranto bench and his 20-year Coaching career could well be over.

“Let’s say that, unlike other years, I am trying to test how ready I am to be a pensioner. It’s not a role that suits me but, sooner or later, we must all settle into it. I’m not entirely certain I will manage it yet, but at least I’m giving it a go.”
I really hope to see that geezer, one of the highlights of Lega Calcio, coaching in Serie A soon. He is a national treasure.
 

swag

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Erik-with-a-k said:
My point is that a protestant vicar won't even see any kids unless he gets married and hooks up his wife. Catholics have schools, sunday schools, boy choirs (seriously wtf) and all that stuff. I'm sure you were called in at the Priest's office (or one of those characters in a robe) every once in a while, no?
I don't think child molestation is largely a "crime of opportunity", an "impulse buy", though -- unless you also consider the back of an ice cream truck a commercially acceptable bath house for children.

And yes, I was called into the Monsignor's office once or twice in all that time on official business. Each time, I wasn't the only one present. And I wouldn't exactly say that the existence of an office to do his business is a lair for the chicken hawk to ensnare unsuspecting children.

As for Sunday school? As if that's somehow more dangerous than a kid who showed up five days a week? Even so, for kids of the faith who went to public or other secular schools, I didn't see that as any different than the kids in the neighborhood who would attend things like Lithuanian school on weekends to learn language and folk dancing. And nobody talks about ethnic schooling being a trap for child molestation.

Boys choirs? We had a coed one, but it wasn't very good. And it was lead by nuns.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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swag said:
I don't think child molestation is largely a "crime of opportunity", an "impulse buy", though -- unless you also consider the back of an ice cream truck a commercially acceptable bath house for children.

And yes, I was called into the Monsignor's office once or twice in all that time on official business. Each time, I wasn't the only one present. And I wouldn't exactly say that the existence of an office to do his business is a lair for the chicken hawk to ensnare unsuspecting children.

As for Sunday school? As if that's somehow more dangerous than a kid who showed up five days a week? Even so, for kids of the faith who went to public or other secular schools, I didn't see that as any different than the kids in the neighborhood who would attend things like Lithuanian school on weekends to learn language and folk dancing. And nobody talks about ethnic schooling being a trap for child molestation.

Boys choirs? We had a coed one, but it wasn't very good. And it was lead by nuns.
All I meant to say was:
For Catholic priests, some opportunities exist (simply because there are kids around him)
For Vicars, as good as zero (no kids)
 

swag

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Erik-with-a-k said:
All I meant to say was:
For Catholic priests, some opportunities exist (simply because there are kids around him)
For Vicars, as good as zero (no kids)
OK, I got what you're trying to say. But to summarize my point, I don't think that some tormented soul who is trying to control his shameful feelings of child molestation will be incented to become a Vicar on the basis of a Vicar's limited exposure to children -- because that will supposedly shield him from temptation.
 

Slagathor

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Jul 25, 2001
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swag said:
OK, I got what you're trying to say. But to summarize my point, I don't think that some tormented soul who is trying to control his shameful feelings of child molestation will be incented to become a Vicar on the basis of a Vicar's limited exposure to children -- because that will supposedly shield him from temptation.
I agree with that, which is why I said:

even if that type of thing rarely or never happens in protestant circles it is because of circumstance
Sorry if I'm a little vague, I spent the entire day investigating Margaret Thatcher's foreign policy :lazy:
 

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