Nick Against the World (48 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


So you believe that all the money we invest in the war against terrorism couldn't be used more wisely in the war against famine? I'm just looking at it economically: we could save more lives by fighting famine with less money. Those children can't help it they don't sell as well as terrorists, now can they?

Do you guys know we actually have the ability to solve world hunger? We could do that you know, but we decide not to. Why?

There are governments out there preventing their citizens to get properly fed. And we don't care. We care about terrorists. What if Afghanistan would have been wealthy? If everyone there had a nice life? Would there be so much suicide-terrorists? Don't think so.

And Gray, 9/11 only was special because it hit America. Oh my god, it weren't obscure Africans that died that day, but it were American citizens. Well boohoo, why are Americans better people?

Oh and Gray, you're right, I don't mourn about 9/11. Frankly, I don't even care. I don't know anyone of the people that died back then and the number of deaths wasn't all that spectacular. So yes, I mourn more about a problem that kill way more people on a consistent basis.

We probably can't solve terrorism, but we can solve world hunger. So why focus on the first?

Oh yeah lets save world hunger, such an easy task isn't it? Please Seven, save your bullshit talk for a better day.

Who said Americans are better than Africans? Why all of a sudden do YOU care so much about Africans? All your trying to do Seven is take away from what should be a solemn day of remembrance. Same thing for the day of the Madrid bombings. But I guess you'd mourn that day because its not America, right Seven? If you don't care about it so much, why are you even here discussing it?

 

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[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Oh yeah lets save world hunger, such an easy task isn't it? Please Seven, save your bullshit talk for a better day.

Who said Americans are better than Africans? Why all of a sudden do YOU care so much about Africans? All your trying to do Seven is take away from what should be a solemn day of remembrance. Same thing for the day of the Madrid bombings. But I guess you'd mourn that day because its not America, right Seven? If you don't care about it so much, why are you even here discussing it?

Well, first of all Andy, it's a well known fact we have the abilities to solve world hunger. We don't have the abilities to solve terrorism. I don't mourn about the Madrid bombings either. I've already stated I don't hate America. Though I do hate your ignorant attitude.

Well, YOU said Americans are better than Africans. You're not mourning about 100 000 Africans now are you? You're mourning about 5000 Americans. Conclusion: 5000 Americans are better than 100 000 Africans.

Yes, you're right Andy, I'm trying to defend 9/11 here, sure .
I don't care about 9/11 so much, but I do understand people that were PERSONALLY involved do. I'm sorry, but more Africans found death, so I'm more upset with those Africans. Why? Because I'm not personally involved in either one. If someone I knew had died on 9/11, of course I would mourn about that day more.

All I'm saying it's pretty stupid that the media and America's gouvernment focus so much on the war against terrorism, while that isn't our biggest problem. It's not even close. And despite what you ignorant bastard might think, we CAN solve world hunger. In fact I even think it's PROVEN America could solve world hunger on it's own.

 

[River]

To even consider not remembering such an event because of world hunger is so rediculous i find it funny. Its also like the typical student hippy wannabe. Fight World Hunger! Equal rights now! Equality not poverty!

 

[Seven]

On and by the way, Andy, did you actually have an argument? I'm not asking much, I just expect some reason from you. Not much, just some. But no, you go on and on and on talking bullshit about Americans that indeed tragically died that day. Yet I come up with arguments. Arguments that make it clear it isn't wise to focus so much on the war against terrorism. And as I said before, BUT WILL YOU PLEASE HAVE THE COURAGE TO READ MY ENTIRE POST, would there be so much terrorism if there wasn't any famine?

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by River ] ++
To even consider not remembering such an event because of world hunger is so rediculous i find it funny. Its also like the typical student hippy wannabe. Fight World Hunger! Equal rights now! Equality not poverty!

Just a question: would we remember it if the same thing happend in Africa? No. Things like that HAVE happened in Africa, but did we remember them?

Instead of trying to focus on important things, America's president decides to take down a regime in Iraq that had already been there for decades (but it didn't come in quite handy back then). And what with Afghanistan? Was it so important to throw down 3 houses built of clay?

 

[Seven]

Fliakis about solving world hunger:

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++
we sure could, but we dont. got to deal with it.

I rest my case.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Sergio ] ++
Its not about diminishing the relevance of this day, but its about bringing to light everything else that's going on in the world.


Well, that's fine.



But for me, and my brothers and sisters in this country, today is not the day to do that.

Can I FFS make it clear for everyone that I've already stated 4 times that I don't attack YOU for remembering this day, but the MEDIA and BUSH for constantly focussing on it. If you lost loved ones that day, it's only normal to remember them. It's not normal though to start this war against terror-thingie. That's just a sick way to get votes out of people that are sad because they lost a loved one.
Not to mention how great it was for the media. It's not like you get a spectacle like that every day ey.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Well, first of all Andy, it's a well known fact we have the abilities to solve world hunger. We don't have the abilities to solve terrorism. I don't mourn about the Madrid bombings either. I've already stated I don't hate America. Though I do hate your ignorant attitude.

Well, YOU said Americans are better than Africans. You're not mourning about 100 000 Africans now are you? You're mourning about 5000 Americans. Conclusion: 5000 Americans are better than 100 000 Africans.

Yes, you're right Andy, I'm trying to defend 9/11 here, sure .
I don't care about 9/11 so much, but I do understand people that were PERSONALLY involved do. I'm sorry, but more Africans found death, so I'm more upset with those Africans. Why? Because I'm not personally involved in either one. If someone I knew had died on 9/11, of course I would mourn about that day more.

All I'm saying it's pretty stupid that the media and America's gouvernment focus so much on the war against terrorism, while that isn't our biggest problem. It's not even close. And despite what you ignorant bastard might think, we CAN solve world hunger. In fact I even think it's PROVEN America could solve world hunger on it's own.

You make it sound like such an easy task, which it really isn't. I'm sure we can give all the people in the world enough food to survive, will keeping the peace so that the food given to some people isn't stripped away by other forces, like in Somalia. So easy isn't it? Well, why don't you go march by the American embassy in you're country and make a difference if you think its so easy.

The war on terrorism IS OUR biggest problem, so yeah were gonna be concerned about it. Is that so hard to understand? Should we let terrorists run a focking muck in our streets and other countries? YOU don't know the situation, so its easy for you to comment.

I said that Americans are better than Africans??? Just because I'm mourning this day? Thats laughable Seven, you need a lesson in interpretation if you think that, or you're just trying to rescue your argument.

Yeah, I have an ignorant attitude because I'm honoring the people who died in result of the 9/11 attacks. That makes a ton of sense Seven. You don't care about the person I knew who died in the Pentagon? Well good for you. I bet you don't know any Africans who are starving for food. So you're still talkin outa your ass.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Just a question: would we remember it if the same thing happend in Africa? No. Things like that HAVE happened in Africa, but did we remember them?

Instead of trying to focus on important things, America's president decides to take down a regime in Iraq that had already been there for decades (but it didn't come in quite handy back then). And what with Afghanistan? Was it so important to throw down 3 houses built of clay?

Does Africa have two twin 100 story buildings? What, are the terrorists gonna go fly the planes into some African village?

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


You make it sound like such an easy task, which it really isn't. I'm sure we can give all the people in the world enough food to survive, will keeping the peace so that the food given to some people isn't stripped away by other forces, like in Somalia. So easy isn't it? Well, why don't you go march by the American embassy in you're country and make a difference if you think its so easy.

The war on terrorism IS OUR biggest problem, so yeah were gonna be concerned about it. Is that so hard to understand? Should we let terrorists run a focking muck in our streets and other countries? YOU don't know the situation, so its easy for you to comment.

I said that Americans are better than Africans??? Just because I'm mourning this day? Thats laughable Seven, you need a lesson in interpretation if you think that, or you're just trying to rescue your argument.

Yeah, I have an ignorant attitude because I'm honoring the people who died in result of the 9/11 attacks. That makes a ton of sense Seven. You don't care about the person I knew who died in the Pentagon? Well good for you. I bet you don't know any Africans who are starving for food. So you're still talkin outa your ass.

Well, first of all, of course I don't care about the person you knew who died in the Pentagon. Why on earth should I?

Well I've got a picture of me (as a three year old) and 11 African children. We're thirteen years later now. I'm alive, as well as two other guys. Period.

And no, Andy, the war against terrorism isn't your biggest problem. That's just what they make you think. And I said you had an ignorant attitude because you said we couldn't solve world hunger. For crying out loud READ my post.

I've explained why you make me think you think Americans are better.

So, Andy, how many terrorists have you seen in your street? Apparently a lot. I bet they're all over the place.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Does Africa have two twin 100 story buildings? What, are the terrorists gonna go fly the planes into some African village?

I can't believe you even said something that nasty about Africa. Something that nasty that isn't even true.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
On and by the way, Andy, did you actually have an argument? I'm not asking much, I just expect some reason from you. Not much, just some. But no, you go on and on and on talking bullshit about Americans that indeed tragically died that day. Yet I come up with arguments. Arguments that make it clear it isn't wise to focus so much on the war against terrorism. And as I said before, BUT WILL YOU PLEASE HAVE THE COURAGE TO READ MY ENTIRE POST, would there be so much terrorism if there wasn't any famine?

I don't have an argument? :LOL: My argument is OBVIOUSLY that this day should be remembered and that you insist to let the world know you don't give a rat's ass about 9/11. Theres always somebody who wants to try and make things worse.

 

[Seven]

There's a world outside America you know. In fact, if we had obliged to the rules America should be fighting Europe at this very moment. Cause you guys went to invade Iraq without permission. What America did there is just a disgrace. But hey, what do you expect from a president that can't even say "nuclear"?

Man, if you knew how I hoped for America to find those weapons there. Doesn't it make you cry there weren't any? Anyway, it's important that oil doesn't get too expensive ey .

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


I can't believe you even said something that nasty about Africa. Something that nasty that isn't even true.

Hows that nasty at all? Its the truth. There wouldn't be a reason for terrorists to attack Africa.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I don't have an argument? :LOL: My argument is OBVIOUSLY that this day should be remembered and that you insist to let the world know you don't give a rat's ass about 9/11. Theres always somebody who wants to try and make things worse.

OMFG, that's NOT your argument, that's your OPINION. You defend an opinion with arguments. Do I have to explain everything to you?

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Hows that nasty at all? Its the truth. There wouldn't be a reason for terrorists to attack Africa.

Terrorists HAVE attacked Africa lots of times. Where have you been the past twenty years? And of course Africa has big buildings. The only reason everyone is talking so muc about 9/11 is because it happened in America. Are you going to deny that?

 

[Seven]

Anyway, I'm going to watch Match Of The Day now. And, Andy, please read my posts again. I've said on several occasions that it's your duty to mourn if you lost loved ones, people that you know or because it happened in your neighbourhood. I'm just saying we, Europeans, shouldn't be obliged to mourn because there are worse things than terrorism.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
There's a world outside America you know. In fact, if we had obliged to the rules America should be fighting Europe at this very moment. Cause you guys went to invade Iraq without permission. What America did there is just a disgrace. But hey, what do you expect from a president that can't even say "nuclear"?

Man, if you knew how I hoped for America to find those weapons there. Doesn't it make you cry there weren't any? Anyway, it's important that oil doesn't get too expensive ey .

Hahaha everybodys a comedian.

Theres a world outside of America??? Well jeez, I thought the Italian Serie A and La Liga was based in Los Angeles. I'm outa here.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
Anyway, I'm going to watch Match Of The Day now. And, Andy, please read my posts again. I've said on several occasions that it's your duty to mourn if you lost loved ones, people that you know or because it happened in your neighbourhood. I'm just saying we, Europeans, shouldn't be obliged to mourn because there are worse things than terrorism.

Well don't then. And you seem reluctant to tell me why you're still here talking about 9/11 if you don't care. You're just here to stir up a stupid argument.

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Hahaha everybodys a comedian.

Theres a world outside of America??? Well jeez, I thought the Italian Serie A and La Liga was based in Los Angeles. I'm outa here.

That's so irrelevant. Try to answer my arguments instead of saying these useless things.