Nick Against the World (48 Viewers)
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They are more likely in the end to die at a younger age due to heart problems, the sad truth, fat people are unhealthy people. Does not mean they should be socially shunned, just its sad they are like that.
*from now on, dont call it fat, because fat people are the ones with a little flab around the belly. 400 kg people are obese, and thats who i mean.
*from now on, dont call it fat, because fat people are the ones with a little flab around the belly. 400 kg people are obese, and thats who i mean.
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Yeah, since those fat people are always on the lookout for a friend who can help them become skinnier?
That vaguely reminds me of a Zoolander quote...
"Models help people! They make them feel good about themselves. They also show them how to dress cool and how to wear their hair in interesting ways"
phew, I was starting to think you're a weirdo. Imagine that, defending fat people
Nothing against you at all fabi, and I know you were responding to Nick's comment... but in that particular post, you make 'fat people' out to be some kind of a different species of humans whose brains are wired differently from everyone else
Yeah, since those fat people are always on the lookout for a friend who can help them become skinnier?
That vaguely reminds me of a Zoolander quote..."Models help people! They make them feel good about themselves. They also show them how to dress cool and how to wear their hair in interesting ways"
phew, I was starting to think you're a weirdo. Imagine that, defending fat people
Nothing against you at all fabi, and I know you were responding to Nick's comment... but in that particular post, you make 'fat people' out to be some kind of a different species of humans whose brains are wired differently from everyone else
I dont think fat people are different species of humans, in fact Nicks post made me think about how many fat friends I have and it turns out to be I have a LOT who sometimes feel pretty bad because theyre fat and they cant do anything about it. Losing weight isnt as easy as it seems, it takes lots of times and also a change because some of them are used to eating whatever junk food they have, and starting to eat vegetables, tuna and salads only is tough.
And what I said about not defending fat people... they being fat or thin isnt none of my business, I was just stating my opinion
It's not that rare. Maybe you're just hanging out with the wrong people.
Not quite. You implied that it's okay to reject someone because they're happy with being obese.
"What about what Graham said? what if theyre fat because theyre diabetic and they simply cannot get thinner?
If theyre fat because they chose to be fat then shame on them, but I dont think you should reject someone because theyre overweight, maybe youre losing someone whom you could connect in an intellectual level, that would make you happy, because shes overweight and you could actually help her become skinnier."
If that's not what you meant, fine, but otherwise, 'fess up, and defend your point of view.
Not quite. You implied that it's okay to reject someone because they're happy with being obese.
"What about what Graham said? what if theyre fat because theyre diabetic and they simply cannot get thinner?
If theyre fat because they chose to be fat then shame on them, but I dont think you should reject someone because theyre overweight, maybe youre losing someone whom you could connect in an intellectual level, that would make you happy, because shes overweight and you could actually help her become skinnier."
If that's not what you meant, fine, but otherwise, 'fess up, and defend your point of view.
Its a right given to us by god, its our insticnts. We judge people on a few things, safe/dangerous good sexual genes/not good sexual genes. Obese people are a turn off, because they are less fit and would be in stone age times more unlikely to catch dinner and more likely to be caught by a lion. Or likely to live shorter. People who look ' good ' are our insticnts saying this is a healthy person.Our caveman insticts havent changed much, that is no exception.
However, one other fact to point out. Should glue sniffer be helped, or shall he/she be let to get on with a path of sure self-destruction. Should a person with an obese eating dis-order be let to eat themselves to the grave? Its the same thing.
However, one other fact to point out. Should glue sniffer be helped, or shall he/she be let to get on with a path of sure self-destruction. Should a person with an obese eating dis-order be let to eat themselves to the grave? Its the same thing.
The problem is that especially in the US, there are fat people that don't even try to lose weight or anything. if someone tries to lose weight, you have to admire them because it is so difficult to do so. And even though it is sometimes hard to do, I always at least try and treat fat or obese people the same way I would treat the most attractive girl in the world. And the thing is there are so many fat people in the US. You see ten year old kids that are incredibly obese-which is really the parents fault, but what kind of parent lets their child get so overweight? as someone said, there are some people whom genetically have a hard time not getting fat, but that is only a small percentage. so many people just continue witht their lives, eating at McDonalds and Burger king two or three meals a day, and they teach their kids the same thing. but at the same time, you do have to treat them the same way you treat anybody else
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no offence dan, but what a load of tripe! In stone age times, women weren't expected to catch dinner, and being caught by a lion wasn't (believe it or not) something they worried about on a daily basis. In those times, the males were the hunters/gatherers, while the women served mostly to bear children (not to be sexist or anything, but that's how it is). That being the case, a woman with large hips would be much more valued for their child-bearing ability than a frail woman who looked like she'd die during labour.
Also, fat people have only been looked down upon relatively recently, since so many modern societies have all the basic needs of food and water in abundance. While being fat in today's society means a lack of self-control, having a large girth decades/centuries ago was considered a sign of being rich, and there are still many societies today that respect larger people
tell me honestly though, how many people who judge people according to their weight, actually care about the well-being of that person. It's not really common to see people say "my gosh, look at that fat bastard. I really hope he doesn't have a heart condition". It's just a copout to try and justify these kind of comments by saying that they're endangering themselves, even though that may well be the case.
no offence dan, but what a load of tripe! In stone age times, women weren't expected to catch dinner, and being caught by a lion wasn't (believe it or not) something they worried about on a daily basis. In those times, the males were the hunters/gatherers, while the women served mostly to bear children (not to be sexist or anything, but that's how it is). That being the case, a woman with large hips would be much more valued for their child-bearing ability than a frail woman who looked like she'd die during labour.
Also, fat people have only been looked down upon relatively recently, since so many modern societies have all the basic needs of food and water in abundance. While being fat in today's society means a lack of self-control, having a large girth decades/centuries ago was considered a sign of being rich, and there are still many societies today that respect larger people
tell me honestly though, how many people who judge people according to their weight, actually care about the well-being of that person. It's not really common to see people say "my gosh, look at that fat bastard. I really hope he doesn't have a heart condition". It's just a copout to try and justify these kind of comments by saying that they're endangering themselves, even though that may well be the case.
If i might correct you, the schools and coca cola is very much to blame.
The american school budget was once on average a dollar per stundent, or some ridiculous figure. Companys have exploited the fact that children are so impressionable, and there for have paid the schools to post advertisements on the premisis, and coke and fatty snacks machines.
The american school budget is mainly funded by certain types of advertising, such as coke, pepsi, and fatty snacks. In return, the schools have to 'encourage' drinking their soft drinks. The companys post their advertisments on the walls, and machines in the corridors. The average child in america has something along the lines of 2 cans of coke a day!!
What the companys benefit from is brand loyaty, as the next time the so called child is looking for a beverage, and he sees coke, he will automatically remeber he/she has seen/tried it before, and buy it. (assuming he/she didnt hate it). The parents have no control what the children drink in school, and the school is put under pressure by the parents for their unhealthy products, or their low budget.
The american school budget was once on average a dollar per stundent, or some ridiculous figure. Companys have exploited the fact that children are so impressionable, and there for have paid the schools to post advertisements on the premisis, and coke and fatty snacks machines.
The american school budget is mainly funded by certain types of advertising, such as coke, pepsi, and fatty snacks. In return, the schools have to 'encourage' drinking their soft drinks. The companys post their advertisments on the walls, and machines in the corridors. The average child in america has something along the lines of 2 cans of coke a day!!
What the companys benefit from is brand loyaty, as the next time the so called child is looking for a beverage, and he sees coke, he will automatically remeber he/she has seen/tried it before, and buy it. (assuming he/she didnt hate it). The parents have no control what the children drink in school, and the school is put under pressure by the parents for their unhealthy products, or their low budget.