Nick Against the World (47 Viewers)
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That shit doesn't even deserve a response.
You explained why you made a mockery out of it, but I hardly believe you acted in the "kindness of your good heart." I saw it as a joke, and a terrible one at that. One day out of the whole year dedicated to such a terrible event, and you mock it and take away from the importance of it. Sick fvck and I can't help but think you perhaps don't even care that much about the children anymore, only extraneous issues involving the US.
See, there we go again. "I bet, I think." Don't think about it too much because fools like you "think" up false notions like the one above. Any stats there buddy? If not, you're SOL.
Iraq? Never said it was the right choice, and in fact more people in the US are now against it than before (obviously) and it was always split right down the middle. And I HARDLY think you actually know what you are talking about when discussing the pre-Iraq decision, so no point in going there just yet. Don't you get it?
What's wrong with it? Everything is wrong with it, just like the nonsense you said about Vinni. Obviously you have no clue what you're talking about when you mention Afghanistan as a place we should not have touched.....do you even know what was going on there? Do you even know what that country's former government has done, aiding terrorists and opressing their own people? Talk about caring for underprevlidged human beings, you don't seem to give two shits about them when America is giving a helping hand.
And do you realize that these "dictators" we put in years ago were in everybody's best interests at the time? Do you forget the people they replaced or does that not matter anymore? Do you have any sense? It might have been the wrong decision in the long run, but how the feck would we know Saddam would become such an extremist and cause his people so much suffering years down the road? Do you have a special ability to see into the future, Seven? Or do you have the fantastic ability to play "Monday morning Capello" and castigate the moves long after the fact. Any regluar idiot can do that, and no offense but you seem to do it a lot. Everything is easy looking at your history book, studying moves 20 years after they happen. You're a bright one, Seven.
You explained why you made a mockery out of it, but I hardly believe you acted in the "kindness of your good heart." I saw it as a joke, and a terrible one at that. One day out of the whole year dedicated to such a terrible event, and you mock it and take away from the importance of it. Sick fvck and I can't help but think you perhaps don't even care that much about the children anymore, only extraneous issues involving the US.
See, there we go again. "I bet, I think." Don't think about it too much because fools like you "think" up false notions like the one above. Any stats there buddy? If not, you're SOL.
Iraq? Never said it was the right choice, and in fact more people in the US are now against it than before (obviously) and it was always split right down the middle. And I HARDLY think you actually know what you are talking about when discussing the pre-Iraq decision, so no point in going there just yet. Don't you get it?
What's wrong with it? Everything is wrong with it, just like the nonsense you said about Vinni. Obviously you have no clue what you're talking about when you mention Afghanistan as a place we should not have touched.....do you even know what was going on there? Do you even know what that country's former government has done, aiding terrorists and opressing their own people? Talk about caring for underprevlidged human beings, you don't seem to give two shits about them when America is giving a helping hand.
And do you realize that these "dictators" we put in years ago were in everybody's best interests at the time? Do you forget the people they replaced or does that not matter anymore? Do you have any sense? It might have been the wrong decision in the long run, but how the feck would we know Saddam would become such an extremist and cause his people so much suffering years down the road? Do you have a special ability to see into the future, Seven? Or do you have the fantastic ability to play "Monday morning Capello" and castigate the moves long after the fact. Any regluar idiot can do that, and no offense but you seem to do it a lot. Everything is easy looking at your history book, studying moves 20 years after they happen. You're a bright one, Seven.
Who in their right mind would wipe out third world debt before wiping out their own? And like wiping out third world debt is such an easy task....where would have all the money went after we agreed to give it? That's right, countries that support terrorists or have such a poor human rights record. It's not that easy.
Refusing the Kyoto agreement was in our best interest because the provisions would have been too costly for us and in some ways unfair considering China did not have a set target to meet. The US has direct controls that cut down on the amount of pollution by setting up a level in which companies either take care of the pollution themselves or pollute and pay a costly fine. Although it might not be the most enviornment-friendly provision, it does cut back pollution in the US. And to be honest the Kyoto agreement was too much for us to handle conisdering we are the world's leading polluter, not because we want to but because we produce the most products in the entire world. There will always be that extra baggage we have to carry with that and few acknowledge it.
"Paltry" $350 million? I'm sorry but you are being a bit naive here. You must consider that the national debt is sky high (billions) and other issues regarding the state of our economy. Of course more would have been nice, and we gave our fair share to the reflief fund, but that is still a very good sum of money.
I never said we do little wrong, Paul. Not sure why you concocted that notion, but here we go again.
Anti-American? Hmmm.
Refusing the Kyoto agreement was in our best interest because the provisions would have been too costly for us and in some ways unfair considering China did not have a set target to meet. The US has direct controls that cut down on the amount of pollution by setting up a level in which companies either take care of the pollution themselves or pollute and pay a costly fine. Although it might not be the most enviornment-friendly provision, it does cut back pollution in the US. And to be honest the Kyoto agreement was too much for us to handle conisdering we are the world's leading polluter, not because we want to but because we produce the most products in the entire world. There will always be that extra baggage we have to carry with that and few acknowledge it.
"Paltry" $350 million? I'm sorry but you are being a bit naive here. You must consider that the national debt is sky high (billions) and other issues regarding the state of our economy. Of course more would have been nice, and we gave our fair share to the reflief fund, but that is still a very good sum of money.
I never said we do little wrong, Paul. Not sure why you concocted that notion, but here we go again.
Anti-American? Hmmm.
Thus:
a) America installs dictator
b) boy oh boy, dictator proves to be corrupt
c) America provides dictator with arms and money to invade an other country
d) America provide the other country with arms and money as well
e) somehow the dictator falls out of grace
f) America decide to invade the nation, by accusing them of having weapons of mass destruction. those weapons were never found. then let's say it was a cruel regime and we needed to overthrow it. a regime we put there, but hey..
now that's sick, andy
a) America installs dictator
b) boy oh boy, dictator proves to be corrupt
c) America provides dictator with arms and money to invade an other country
d) America provide the other country with arms and money as well
e) somehow the dictator falls out of grace
f) America decide to invade the nation, by accusing them of having weapons of mass destruction. those weapons were never found. then let's say it was a cruel regime and we needed to overthrow it. a regime we put there, but hey..
now that's sick, andy
Well by the looks of it most people barring the US
Well actually its a peice of cake... wiping out debt is easy... wiping out poverty is the problem
Dont really see what you mean here as you are not giving anything... Unless of course you are asking where the newly freed up funds would go... Which is all laid out in the document that the americans refused to even read
Again, it is easy, it was all laid out of how togo about it with many conditions set against the action..
No country with human rights or terrorist issues would have benefitted from this action
See, there is the whole problem when it comes to the US and its support help for the rest of the world... That one little word... OUR
America need to think beyond themselves for once, and stop making excuses for things that are their own doing...
Im being naive... for saying your tight... Sorry but thats crap... The US showed exactly how much they care about the rest of the world with this pathetic effort...
See again we see that attitude... Its not about FAIR SHARES... who gives a fvck about fair shares... its about doing what you can for the rest of the world... Doing what is within your power without thought for yourself
SO what your economy is not at its best... its still better than most and a few mil extra would have made absolutely no difference what so ever...
Our economy is not at its best... but we a tiny little island with a handful of people still gave double what your mighty super power did...
It then carried on with the charitable nature of your people who again put fvck all in the pot... Where as insignificant people like us who everyone likes to slag off managed a mere $800 milion ... and of course large sums from the likes of france and germany... yet the masses of americans couldnt come close to even halving those numbers
Its not nes that you said you do little wrong but more that you constantly come over with that... America are great, we do everything for the world... where would the world be without us crap.
If you wish to say im anti american... thats fine... Though if youve read my posts on these subjects over the last years on this forum , its fairly obvious that isnt the case
I post in this as its a prime example of a subject where you show absolutely no objectivity what so ever... yet you continually preach it far and wide across this forum
Well actually its a peice of cake... wiping out debt is easy... wiping out poverty is the problem
Dont really see what you mean here as you are not giving anything... Unless of course you are asking where the newly freed up funds would go... Which is all laid out in the document that the americans refused to even read
Again, it is easy, it was all laid out of how togo about it with many conditions set against the action..
No country with human rights or terrorist issues would have benefitted from this action
See, there is the whole problem when it comes to the US and its support help for the rest of the world... That one little word... OUR
America need to think beyond themselves for once, and stop making excuses for things that are their own doing...
Im being naive... for saying your tight... Sorry but thats crap... The US showed exactly how much they care about the rest of the world with this pathetic effort...
See again we see that attitude... Its not about FAIR SHARES... who gives a fvck about fair shares... its about doing what you can for the rest of the world... Doing what is within your power without thought for yourself
SO what your economy is not at its best... its still better than most and a few mil extra would have made absolutely no difference what so ever...
Our economy is not at its best... but we a tiny little island with a handful of people still gave double what your mighty super power did...
It then carried on with the charitable nature of your people who again put fvck all in the pot... Where as insignificant people like us who everyone likes to slag off managed a mere $800 milion ... and of course large sums from the likes of france and germany... yet the masses of americans couldnt come close to even halving those numbers
Its not nes that you said you do little wrong but more that you constantly come over with that... America are great, we do everything for the world... where would the world be without us crap.
If you wish to say im anti american... thats fine... Though if youve read my posts on these subjects over the last years on this forum , its fairly obvious that isnt the case
I post in this as its a prime example of a subject where you show absolutely no objectivity what so ever... yet you continually preach it far and wide across this forum
See again... here you go with this america is great bullshit... america saves the world.....
No one disputes america having a key part in the war... But please they did not win the war... and there is absolutely no proof to say the result wouldnt have been the same if they werent there... in fact historians are agreed that germany would have lost anyway... jus ity would have taken a bit longer....
Jus another example of america coming along late, after the hard stuff was done and claiming glory
If anything the russians were more important than america... not too mention the forces of europe... But no they were nothing... get real
But then we also get to the completely unwarranted acts of nagasaki and hiroshima....
No one disputes america having a key part in the war... But please they did not win the war... and there is absolutely no proof to say the result wouldnt have been the same if they werent there... in fact historians are agreed that germany would have lost anyway... jus ity would have taken a bit longer....
Jus another example of america coming along late, after the hard stuff was done and claiming glory
If anything the russians were more important than america... not too mention the forces of europe... But no they were nothing... get real
But then we also get to the completely unwarranted acts of nagasaki and hiroshima....
And another thing, you're supposed to criticise when things have obviously gone wrong. America knew what they were doing and they were fully aware of the possible consequences. When you install dictators, you know they can turn against you. So this pretty much was a non-argument, Andy. Criticising might be easy, but it should be done nonetheless.