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    Juventus710, don't make fun of his religion. That's not right. They are "ehle kitaab" (people of the book).
     

    mnementh

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    Jun 5, 2005
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    indeed, so start to respect what that book says. :p

    edit : if Israel is not a country, Earth isn't a planet. a moron go and call someone else.
     

    mnementh

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    Jun 5, 2005
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    Scorpion nazi boy, regarding your stupid and disgusting avatar, can you tell me who are the two people in this photo ? Please help me out here.

     

    Hambon

    Lion of the Desert
    Apr 22, 2005
    8,073
    scorpion10 said:
    As if seeing these pictures is gonna make us love the term you use to refer to occupied Palestine. Those military pictures look like sumthing out of a jackie Chan movie. I can make that in my own backyard. It means nothing. You guys are losing big time. The truth is that Israelis use their arab civilians as human shields. They build their military bases around arab neighborhoods because they have no regard for human life especially arabs.
    :rofl2: :rofl2:

    Hey mods can some one issue a ceasefire on Mnementh....he is as pathetic as his army
     

    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
    22,871
    Zé Tahir said:
    What are these pictures for? Are you trying to show us that your people have no dignity and self respect? :thumbs:

    you've succeeded ;)
    :rofl:

    I was thinking the same...

    When he has no facts to show, he shows some naked females to impress those who have a nothing in their minds...
     

    mnementh

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    Jun 5, 2005
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    In Nazi-occupied Europe

    Al-Husayni and Adolf Hitler (1941)



    Al-Husayni inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruits

    Upon al-Husayni's arrival in Europe, he met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941 and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Earlier, al-Hussayni submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing a clause:

    Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.[2]

    Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, but "made the following declaration, requesting the Mufti to lock it deep in his heart:

    1. He (the Führer) would carry on the fight until the last traces of the Jewish-Communist European hegemony had been obliterated.
    2. In the course of this fight, the German army would - at a time that could not yet be specified, but in any case in the clearly foreseeable future - gain the southern exit of Caucasus.
    3. As soon as this breakthrough was made, the Führer would offer the Arab world his personal assurance that the hour of liberation had struck. Thereafter, Germany's only remaining objective in the region would be limited to the Vernichtung des...Judentums ['destruction of the Jewish element', sometimes taken to be a euphemism for 'annihilation of the Jews'] living under British protection in Arab lands.." [3]

    The Mufti established close contacts with Bosnian and Albanian Muslim leaders and spent the remainder of the war conducting the following activities:

    * Radio propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany
    * Espionage and the fifth column activities in Muslim regions of Europe and the Middle East
    * Assisting with the formation of Muslim Waffen SS units in the Balkans
    * The formation of schools and training centers for Muslim imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_Al-Husseini
     

    mnementh

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    Jun 5, 2005
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    Recruitment
    Al-Husayni salutes the recruits on the cover of magazine "Vienna Illustrated"



    Beginning in 1943, al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units. The largest was the 13th "Handschar" division of 21,065 men (sometimes spelled Hanjar: the word Scimitar in Turkish, Arabic Khanjar خنجر), which conducted operations against Communist partisans in the Balkans from February 1944.

    Al-Husayni insisted that "The most important task of this division must be to protect the homeland and families (of the Bosnian volunteers); the division must not be permitted to leave Bosnia.", but this request was ignored by the Germans (German archives cited in Lepre, p34).
    [edit]

    The Holocaust

    The Mufti's knowledge about the holocaust while living in Nazi Germany has been debated with the Mufti himself denying any such knowledge after the war. Testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials, however, accused the Mufti of not only having knowledge about the holocaust but of also actively encouraging the initiation of extermination programs against European Jews. Adolf Eichmann`s deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified during his war crimes trial in 1946 that ... "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz."

    When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a trade prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt concentration camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled, although there is no evidence that his intervention prevented their rescue.[citation needed]

    Among the sabotage al-Husayni organized was an attempted chemical warfare assault on the second largest and predominantly Jewish city in Palestine, Tel Aviv. Five parachutists were sent with a toxin to dump into the water system. The police caught the infiltrators in a cave near Jericho, and according to Jericho district police commander Fayiz Bey Idrissi, "The laboratory report stated that each container held enough poison to kill 25,000 people, and there were at least ten containers."[5]

    Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Minstry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [6] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem".[[7] According to the German researchers Husayni was a prime example of how Arabs and Nazis became friends out of a hatred of Jews. Al-Husseini had met several times with Adolf Eichmann[8], Adolf Hitler's chief architect of the Holocaust [4] [9],[10],[11],[12],[13].

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    Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (ca. 1895 - July 4, 1974, أمين الحسيني, alternatively spelt al-Husseini), the Mufti of Jerusalem, was a Palestinian Arab nationalist and a Muslim religious leader. Known for his anti-Zionism, al-Husayni fought against the establishment of a Jewish state in the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine. To this end, Husayni collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II and helped recruit Muslims for the Waffen-SS. Recent Nazi documents uncovered in German Minstry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [1] by two researchers from Stuttgart University found that the Nazis had planned to exploit Arab friendship for their planned landing in Palestine and murdering of about 500,000 European Jews who had taken refuge there. In their book the researchers concluded that "The most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem".[2].
     

    Rami

    The Linuxologist
    Dec 24, 2004
    8,065
    mnementh said:
    Scorpion nazi boy, regarding your stupid and disgusting avatar, can you tell me who are the two people in this photo ? Please help me out here.

    Boo hoo, cry me a river, guess what??
     

    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
    22,871
    mnementh said:
    Recruitment
    Al-Husayni salutes the recruits on the cover of magazine "Vienna Illustrated"



    Beginning in 1943, al-Husayni was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units. The largest was the 13th "Handschar" division of 21,065 men (sometimes spelled Hanjar: the word Scimitar in Turkish, Arabic Khanjar خنجر), which conducted operations against Communist partisans in the Balkans from February 1944.

    Al-Husayni insisted that "The most important task of this division must be to protect the homeland and families (of the Bosnian volunteers); the division must not be permitted to leave Bosnia.", but this request was ignored by the Germans (German archives cited in Lepre, p34).
    [edit]

    The Holocaust

    The Mufti's knowledge about the holocaust while living in Nazi Germany has been debated with the Mufti himself denying any such knowledge after the war. Testimony presented at the Nuremberg trials, however, accused the Mufti of not only having knowledge about the holocaust but of also actively encouraging the initiation of extermination programs against European Jews. Adolf Eichmann`s deputy Dieter Wisliceny testified during his war crimes trial in 1946 that ... "The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz."

    When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a trade prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt concentration camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled, although there is no evidence that his intervention prevented their rescue.[citation needed]

    Among the sabotage al-Husayni organized was an attempted chemical warfare assault on the second largest and predominantly Jewish city in Palestine, Tel Aviv. Five parachutists were sent with a toxin to dump into the water system. The police caught the infiltrators in a cave near Jericho, and according to Jericho district police commander Fayiz Bey Idrissi, "The laboratory report stated that each container held enough poison to kill 25,000 people, and there were at least ten containers."[5]

    Recent Nazi documents uncovered in the German Minstry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [6] by two researchers, Klaus Michael Mallmann from Stuttgart University and Martin Cüppers from the University of Ludwigsburg, indicated that in the event of the British being defeated in Egypt by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's Afrika Korps the Nazis had planned to deploy a special unit called Einsatzkommando Ägypten to exterminate Palestinian Jews and that they wanted Arab support to prevent the emergence of a Jewish state. In their book the researchers concluded that, "the most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem".[[7] According to the German researchers Husayni was a prime example of how Arabs and Nazis became friends out of a hatred of Jews. Al-Husseini had met several times with Adolf Eichmann[8], Adolf Hitler's chief architect of the Holocaust [4] [9],[10],[11],[12],[13].

    =============

    Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (ca. 1895 - July 4, 1974, أمين الحسيني, alternatively spelt al-Husseini), the Mufti of Jerusalem, was a Palestinian Arab nationalist and a Muslim religious leader. Known for his anti-Zionism, al-Husayni fought against the establishment of a Jewish state in the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine. To this end, Husayni collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II and helped recruit Muslims for the Waffen-SS. Recent Nazi documents uncovered in German Minstry of Foreign Affairs and the Military Archive Service in Freiburg [1] by two researchers from Stuttgart University found that the Nazis had planned to exploit Arab friendship for their planned landing in Palestine and murdering of about 500,000 European Jews who had taken refuge there. In their book the researchers concluded that "The most important collaborator with the Nazis and an absolute Arab anti-Semite was Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem".[2].
    Briefly...

    My enemy's enemy is my friend...

    Al-Husayni was not a Nazi man, but he knew what Britian wanted to give to jews after Balfour's thing on 1917, and he tried to forbid that...
     

    Rami

    The Linuxologist
    Dec 24, 2004
    8,065
    mnementh said:
    So peace in your mind is the Arabs ruling the entire middle east and oppressing the actual indigenous and rightful peoples of the area like the Copts in Egypt, Jews in Israel, Christians (maronites etc) in Lebanon, Druzes, Kurds etc ? Interesting. Very peaceful. And you ask yourself why this is the situation... when you yourself have your energy reserved towards hate and oppression and fanatic behaviour. Don't forget that after this, you go to conquer Spain and Portugal again.
    So Jews are oppressed in Israel now? Get real!

    Are Christians oppressed in Lebanon? I don't know ask them, there are a couple of them over here....Same goes for all the other groups you mentioned.

    And no you got it wrong Arabs are not "ruling" the entire middle east. Arabs ARE the middle east, true it might not be true 2000 years ago, but all the middle east became normalized and integrated into the Arab community more than 1000 years ago. The other minorities you talk about lived peacefully in most centuries.

    As usual you bite the hand the fed you, the Islamic Empire and especially Spain was a sanctuary for Jews who were prosecuted in other places in Europe....
     

    Eddy

    The Maestro
    Aug 20, 2005
    12,645
    Zé Tahir said:
    There is no denying the menacing existense of Israel, but something that bothers me and has bothered me for a long time is that how the Arab world has just sitten back and let whom ever wished to "rule them". Whether it be financially, militarily, mentally, etc.

    As a Muslim, I believe that God has given us everything we need to succeed and prosper. There was a time when the entire world turned to us for knowledge; a time when nothing was happening in the West and the East was flurishing with advancements in different fields, education, and spirituality (not to mention the oil of today). But what has the Muslim done with these blessings? Absolutely nothing! As soon as we lost the spirituality, God took everything away from us.

    With this much wealth, we could have built the best Universities in the world, educating our youth; been ahead in the current battle of knowledge, because knowledge is power. Instead, the region is one of the most backward in the world. The oil of the Arab world, which they own, is not theirs; it's being taken by foreign people. There is not a single Arab country whose army can compete with the Super Powers of the world. The only Muslim country that can is Pakistan, which is remarkable considering they don't even have half the resources of the Arab world.

    The Muslim world is too busy fighting amongst each other; rather than uniting they're pointing fingers at each other and declaring each other Kafir's. As soon as someone tries to succeed, he's pulled down and hushed. The governments are filled with puppet leaders who are happy to build big shiny mosques and palaces for themselves in their names. They are happy to spend billions of dollars on super highways across their countries for the few people that can afford to drive on them. They are too busy building lavish hotels and hosting major tournaments from different sports in their countries, where not a single contestant or team is of their own. It is sad that wealthy nations such as Saudi Arabia have no army of their own (at least not of any significance) but are protected by a foreign nation; The United States. It is is sad that a country like the United Arab Emirates is protected by the Pakistani Army.
    To think that this is the home and birthplace of Prophet Muhammad (saw) is astounding.

    In a way, it is our own fault that we are in this vulnerable situation that we're in. Had the Arab world been able to stand on its own two feet, Arab region never been split; Palestine been occupied; Iraq been invaded, Lebanon been attacked, etc. Had all this never had happened, no one would be sitting and waiting for someone like the US or the UN to have pitty for there to be peace.

    When will they all wake up?
    Man, the U.A.E is like 40 years old, why should we have an army and start attacking anyone against Islam. Do you know how many foreigners their are here including myself. To tell you the truth, they don't even care about Israelis attacking this and that, they look up to their own developments. If they go to war, there going to be screwed financially. I thought we were being protected by the American army ?
     

    Eddy

    The Maestro
    Aug 20, 2005
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    Zé Tahir said:
    Juventus710, don't make fun of his religion. That's not right. They are "ehle kitaab" (people of the book).
    You're the first guy I know that has finally said that when it comes to a situation like this. Respect.
     
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