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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Base that opinion on the sense I live here and it isn’t extreme as a certain media climate group projects. Like when Robert De Nero was making extreme claims of Hitlers and Nazi camps before the election, with no concentration camp in sight, no serial numbers on my arm. Subsequently now to your claims of me being shot in the face or taken out of my house by Trump or whoever and taken to some “torture facility”, without due process, is just as extreme and absurd. Just as absurd and obnoxious from Boomer Bob’s empty claims to yours with none coming to fruition but just perpetual whining and extreme offensive toxic behavior. I can stick my head out of the window right now or walk outside my house and hear literally crickets. That’s cause I’m not sucked into this toxic media bull crap this certain media is projecting here and internationally to your country.

I suggest just live your life and turn your phone and computer for a week, you’ll see a great improvement on your perspective.

Watch some peak Serie A games with so many legends on the field, from the past early 2000’s of Juve in the mean time.

You‘ll also notice there weren’t so many cry babies on the field and were full grown men, kind of a reflection of what is in comparison on the bigger current stage in the World today. People who were in that time as a young/old adult, devolved into that very person today (de masculine) as others callused and carried on through time and didn’t need to carry a PC helmet or rainbow goggles along with controlled suppressed filtered ear buds trying to live in a world like Demolition man. I rather say curse words just to get enough tickets and wipe my ass with it instead of using sea shells.
You don't seem to understand.

Trump has deported people to a concentration camp in El Salvador without any legal basis to do so.

This is not disputed by the Trump administration.

From the Supreme Court decision regarding Abrego Garcia:

"The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. The United States represents that the removal to El Salvador was the result of an “administrative error.” .

Justice Sotomayor rightly notes that the government has not even tried to argue a just cause, it has simply stated that it cannot grant relief once a deportee crosses its borders and is therefore no longer responsible. This is absurd. Justice Sotomayor adds:

"The Government’s argument, moreover, implies that it could deport and incarcerate any person, including U. S. citizens, without legal consequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene.".

The Supreme Court ordered the government to facilitate Abrego Garcia's return, but the government has explicitly stated they will do no such thing.

Your only argument is that this will not happen to you, because the law protects you. The law does fuck all if it is not respected. The only guarantee you have is that, if it does happen to you, no lawyer or court will be able to help you. Because the courts will be ignored.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Ok, so your not gonna let the whole post sink in your just gonna take a small part and walk down an echo chamber. SMH.
Your post is about crybabies and toxic media complaining about Trump violating rights.

As I have explained, the Trump administration does not dispute they violate rights.

The majority of the US Supreme Court is conservative and they decided 9-0 on this case.

This is not an echo chamber. This is the end of your country as you know it.
 

Nomuken

“Year Zero”
Contributor
Dec 14, 2009
5,646
You’re saying he’s deporting PEOPLE to El Salvador. What people? Good people? American people?

Unofficial residents with priors, let alone previous restraint warrants from beating spouses and kids, above all Validated Gang Members sent to El Salvador. If anything the reason why this whole conversation is due to this ONE Individual, just got sent back to HIS COUNTRY, he is and still has El Salvadorian citizenship and simply got sent back to his country, it’s called deportation. El Salvador can convict him of his previous and existing crimes there.

Show me the people your talking about being sent to a “concentration camp” with no STG group 1 or 2 tattoos.

Do you see Indian doctors or Filipino nurses occupying El Salvador prisons from the US?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
You’re saying he’s deporting PEOPLE to El Salvador. What people? Good people? American people?

Unofficial residents with priors, let alone previous restraint warrants from beating spouses and kids, above all Validated Gang Members sent to El Salvador. If anything the reason why this whole conversation is due to this ONE Individual, just got sent back to HIS COUNTRY, he is and still has El Salvadorian citizenship and simply got sent back to his country, it’s called deportation. El Salvador can convict him of his previous and existing crimes there.

Show me the people your talking about being sent to a “concentration camp” with no STG group 1 or 2 tattoos.

Do you see Indian doctors or Filipino nurses occupying El Salvador prisons from the US?
Again.

It is not disputed that Abrego Garcia had the right to remain in the US and should not have been deported.

Though no longer subject to debate (as, again, the Trump administration itself does not dispute that Abrego Garcia should not have been deported), a court has also already found that there is no tangible element linking Abrego Garcia to any type of crime or affiliation with any gang.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Do you have any gangs there? Have you met a gangster? Specially over here in the US. Particularly Sureños?
I understand you fear gangs. You are allowed to fear gangs. Gangs are, however, not part of this debate:

A court has established Abrego Garcia has no known affiliation to any gang. This is fact.

The US government does not argue that Abrego Garcia is affiliated to a gang. This is fact.

The US goverment agrees that there was no legal right to deport Abrego Garcia and that he had the right to remain on US soil. This is fact.

There is no difference between you and Abrego Garcia. You both have the right to live in the US. If you agree that Abrego Garcia can be deported anyway and that the US government should not retrieve him, there is no reason that they cannot deport you and refuse to retrieve you either.
 

Nomuken

“Year Zero”
Contributor
Dec 14, 2009
5,646
I understand you fear gangs. You are allowed to fear gangs. Gangs are, however, not part of this debate:

There is no difference between you and Abrego Garcia. You both have the right to live in the US
lol there’s a BIG difference. I understand you don’t know gangs, specially our gangs. I know you’re trying your best from thousands of miles away.

I’m not losing the 14th amendment, I’m an American.

How does he have the right to live in the US?

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Sureños game you, you’re getting gamed.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
lol there’s a BIG difference. I understand you don’t know gangs, specially our gangs. I know you’re trying your best from thousands of miles away.

I’m not losing the 14th amendment, I’m an American.

How does he have the right to live in the US?
The 14th amendement is law. You say you are protected by the law.

The law can only offer protection, if the government abides by the law. This implies that the government adheres to court decisions. If the government ignores court rulings, no one can help you.
 

Nomuken

“Year Zero”
Contributor
Dec 14, 2009
5,646
Btw I wasn’t talking about fearing them, I know them. Specially Latino gangs, they politic, game and are super organized. The gen. Public think that they’re knuckles dragging flunkies.

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Still didn’t say why that POS has the right to live here. Somehow he can’t live at his country.

Ok, I’m done agree to disagree. Have a nice day, thanks for caring. Don’t worry I’ll be fine.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Btw I wasn’t talking about fearing them, I know them. Specially Latino gangs, they politic, game and are super organized. The gen. Public think that they’re knuckles dragging flunkies.

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Still didn’t say why that POS has the right to live here. Somehow he can’t live at his country.

Ok, I’m done agree to disagree. Have a nice day, thanks for caring. Don’t worry I’ll be fine.
A court ruled that he has the right to live in the US.

I repeat: no one has argued that he did not have the right to live in the US. The government does not dispute this. This is fact.
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,709
"Millions of terrorists flying into our country" love the lack of fact checking.

I get @Nomuken and his excitement. Everything must be cheap in the supermarket, he'll be able to buy Tesla shares because of the sale period and get himself a new Ford F150 Raptor since they're on sale too. His application for Harvard is likely to be accepted given that they won't be bringing illegal aliens. Also, lots of new jobs are available (perhaps air traffic controller?) since there will be no competition from qualified foreigners, women, trans/gay/lesbians, Democrats, etc. He can call in the cops to finally remove Miguel from next door and have Billy-Bob move in.

Sincerely, if I'm @Nomuken now I'm going to take advantage and set myself up for the future. In all this chaos, people with wealth will be seriously upgrading their share portfolios. I'd do exactly the same, but first I'd need extensive plastic surgery to make myself MAGA white.
 

Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
20,854
lol there’s a BIG difference. I understand you don’t know gangs, specially our gangs. I know you’re trying your best from thousands of miles away.

I’m not losing the 14th amendment, I’m an American.

How does he have the right to live in the US?

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Sureños game you, you’re getting gamed.
When Trump said to Bukele “Homegrowns are next”, what do you think he had in mind regarding 14th amendment? Do homegrown people convicted of a crime have 14 amendment rights?
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,515
april 22. vs 24., trump versus trump:




and of course neither of those numbers are remotely accurate. imagine anyone else doing it. how the fuck he gets away with every random shit he pulls out of his ass? :lol3:
 
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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,515
problem with serial liars is that it takes an actual effort to fact check them. kudos to this guy, see credible resources in the follow up post

most politicians lie from time to time. with trump it's the opposite: on rare occasions he's factual. not this time though lol

 

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