'Murica! (377 Viewers)

[Lion]

You can’t argue with ignorance and blind hate bro. (Stupidity)

This is why Bill Maher got red pilled.

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@Seven


Yep those are some innocent women in children in that photo, can’t believe they’re tattooing numbers on their wrist and putting em in gas chambers and ovens.

If these obvious convicts are so good, let them be your neighbors by all means. Hell, have them as your roommates, let em rent out your rooms with your kids and wife.

I have a question. You obviously have problems with convicts being in the country, but don’t have a problem with a convicted felon being president. So you obviously don’t have problems with convicts being in the country. So what is your issue exactly?

 

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[s4tch]

a good take on the trade war

 

[Fab Fragment]

This Hegseth guy seems to have some serious anger management issues.
Contrast with Rubio, who is a slimy, yes-man, career politician.

 

[s4tch]

his kids looking for another father when

 

[s4tch]

trump is looking forward to a funeral

 

[Nomuken]

I have a question. You obviously have problems with convicts being in the country, but don’t have a problem with a convicted felon being president. So you obviously don’t have problems with convicts being in the country. So what is your issue exactly?

Don’t have a problem, there will always be convicts in almost every country. My issue is everyone is wasting too much time and energy on this one individual. There more important issues at hand.

Plus I don’t live anywhere near convicted felons, I’m good. Bjerkness however lives next to him, it’s awesome.

 

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[Al Birdie]

You can’t argue with ignorance and blind hate bro. (Stupidity)

It is hard to take seriously. Wasn't it blind hate for them queers in Hollywood that got you to vote for this monumental idiot? Because if you would care about the numbers, you should be pissed. And yet you are not.

The inflation should have been stopped at "day1" and the war in Ukraine was supposed to be stopped "in 24h". It is now day 65 of the 24h... And nothing. Was he lying? Was he too stupid to achieve these goals? Did he greatly overestimated his abilities? Which option seems the most likely to you? Care to comment on actual measurable tings or you don't care?
As long as he draws on the map with a sharpy and parades with it like a 9yo it's all cool?

 

[s4tch]

maga in a nutshell:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...va-protest-harvard-cancer-research-rcna202180

bravo.

 

[swag]

a good take on the trade war

This is not good. I mean, look at the global money shifts:

https://www.semafor.com/article/04/22/2025/sell-america-gathers-steam

Money is flowing out of the U.S. and a lot of it to Europe, seeking safety and stability.

If the stock market & FX were Polymarket, right now global finance is shorting the U.S. heavily.

But IMO, this isn't any better than dumping it into crypto scams. I have zero confidence in European corporation stocks being any more valuable in the future than U.S. equivalents right now.

Yes, right now it's a game of guessing what CEO gives handies to the U.S. government or not... and how they can deflect the use of tariffs and lawsuits to extract fealty to the king. Even so, I would still bet on U.S. companies, on average, to outperform European ones in the longer run.

People are just pulling their money out of the U.S. to cash out and stick it in a mattress where the Trump administration can't f*ck it up any further.

Which means future U.S. debt is toast: the interest rates are gonna get jacked because nobody wants to touch covering for more American T-bill IOUs. Which basically inflates the U.S.'s debt payments.

Don’t have a problem, there will always be convicts in almost every country. My issue is everyone is wasting too much time and energy on this one individual. There more important issues at hand.

Plus I don’t live anywhere near convicted felons, I’m good. Bjerkness however lives next to him, it’s awesome.

On the one hand, you're right in that there's a lot of fireworks about one dude. But a single example of an accidental deportation is reflective of a potentially huge problem though.

Just like if a judicial system gets caught sending someone to the chair for a crime they didn't commit. Once that breach is made, you don't know how far and wide it might go. Because then what's to stop a soccer mom with a little hairier arms than usual with a Latino husband from not having incompetence or malice send her to an overseas gulag?

This is a question that has a spectrum of answers: how many innocent people are you willing to condemn if it ups your chances of getting a bad guy. Some will say zero. Others will be happy with 5-10%, and it sucks to be you to be innocent.

People are arguing that non-citizens aren't entitled to due process. But legal residents aren't citizens, and neither are tourists. And even if you are an illegal, is an El Salvador gulag the right sentence? That's what "due process" means: does the punishment, if one is found guilty, fit the crime.

Because right now we have both legal residents and even a few citizens swept up like dolphins in tuna nets, sent to dark prisons with no contact with family or lawyers wholly disappeared with no rights and no recourse to correct things. All presumed guilty of the worst offenses and treated worse than prisoners of war.

 

[ALC]

This is not good. I mean, look at the global money shifts:

https://www.semafor.com/article/04/22/2025/sell-america-gathers-steam

Money is flowing out of the U.S. and a lot of it to Europe, seeking safety and stability.

If the stock market & FX were Polymarket, right now global finance is shorting the U.S. heavily.

But IMO, this isn't any better than dumping it into crypto scams. I have zero confidence in European corporation stocks being any more valuable in the future than U.S. equivalents right now.

Yes, right now it's a game of guessing what CEO gives handies to the U.S. government or not... and how they can deflect the use of tariffs and lawsuits to extract fealty to the king. Even so, I would still bet on U.S. companies, on average, to outperform European ones in the longer run.

People are just pulling their money out of the U.S. to cash out and stick it in a mattress where the Trump administration can't f*ck it up any further.

Which means future U.S. debt is toast: the interest rates are gonna get jacked because nobody wants to touch covering for more American T-bill IOUs. Which basically inflates the U.S.'s debt payments.



On the one hand, you're right in that there's a lot of fireworks about one dude. But a single example of an accidental deportation is reflective of a potentially huge problem though.

Just like if a judicial system gets caught sending someone to the chair for a crime they didn't commit. Once that breach is made, you don't know how far and wide it might go. Because then what's to stop a soccer mom with a little hairier arms than usual with a Latino husband from not having incompetence or malice send her to an overseas gulag?

This is a question that has a spectrum of answers: how many innocent people are you willing to condemn if it ups your chances of getting a bad guy. Some will say zero. Others will be happy with 5-10%, and it sucks to be you to be innocent.

People are arguing that non-citizens aren't entitled to due process. But legal residents aren't citizens, and neither are tourists. And even if you are an illegal, is an El Salvador gulag the right sentence? That's what "due process" means: does the punishment, if one is found guilty, fit the crime.

Because right now we have both legal residents and even a few citizens swept up like dolphins in tuna nets, sent to dark prisons with no contact with family or lawyers wholly disappeared with no rights and no recourse to correct things. All presumed guilty of the worst offenses and treated worse than prisoners of war.

I have a feeling Nomuken knows all this, he just doesn’t have time to think about it.

 

[Seven]

This is not good. I mean, look at the global money shifts:

https://www.semafor.com/article/04/22/2025/sell-america-gathers-steam

Money is flowing out of the U.S. and a lot of it to Europe, seeking safety and stability.

If the stock market & FX were Polymarket, right now global finance is shorting the U.S. heavily.

But IMO, this isn't any better than dumping it into crypto scams. I have zero confidence in European corporation stocks being any more valuable in the future than U.S. equivalents right now.

Yes, right now it's a game of guessing what CEO gives handies to the U.S. government or not... and how they can deflect the use of tariffs and lawsuits to extract fealty to the king. Even so, I would still bet on U.S. companies, on average, to outperform European ones in the longer run.

People are just pulling their money out of the U.S. to cash out and stick it in a mattress where the Trump administration can't f*ck it up any further.

Which means future U.S. debt is toast: the interest rates are gonna get jacked because nobody wants to touch covering for more American T-bill IOUs. Which basically inflates the U.S.'s debt payments.



On the one hand, you're right in that there's a lot of fireworks about one dude. But a single example of an accidental deportation is reflective of a potentially huge problem though.

Just like if a judicial system gets caught sending someone to the chair for a crime they didn't commit. Once that breach is made, you don't know how far and wide it might go. Because then what's to stop a soccer mom with a little hairier arms than usual with a Latino husband from not having incompetence or malice send her to an overseas gulag?

This is a question that has a spectrum of answers: how many innocent people are you willing to condemn if it ups your chances of getting a bad guy. Some will say zero. Others will be happy with 5-10%, and it sucks to be you to be innocent.

People are arguing that non-citizens aren't entitled to due process. But legal residents aren't citizens, and neither are tourists. And even if you are an illegal, is an El Salvador gulag the right sentence? That's what "due process" means: does the punishment, if one is found guilty, fit the crime.

Because right now we have both legal residents and even a few citizens swept up like dolphins in tuna nets, sent to dark prisons with no contact with family or lawyers wholly disappeared with no rights and no recourse to correct things. All presumed guilty of the worst offenses and treated worse than prisoners of war.

I agree with the overall sentiment of your post, but the bolded part is not entirely correct.

Due process comes long before guilt is established.

Due process is about ensuring people are guaranteed the rights they are entitled to according to the law. For example the law provides a right to counsel or the right to a fair trial. If you don't get to see an attorney and you're just shipped to El Salvador without any trial whatsoever, that is a due process violation.

You can get a fair trial and receive punishment that does not fit the crime without it being a due process violation though. Think of three strikes laws for example.

The reason why due process violations receive this much attention, even if they may only revolve around one individual, is precisely because without due process everyone is at the mercy of the government. I don't think it gets enough attention to be honest. If Donald Trump decides to arrest @Nomuken and shoot his fucking face off, nothing will be done about it. That is the reality of not caring about this type of stuff.

 

[swag]

I have a feeling Nomuken knows all this, he just doesn’t have time to think about it.

 

[s4tch]

This is not good. I mean, look at the global money shifts:

https://www.semafor.com/article/04/22/2025/sell-america-gathers-steam

Money is flowing out of the U.S. and a lot of it to Europe, seeking safety and stability.

If the stock market & FX were Polymarket, right now global finance is shorting the U.S. heavily.

But IMO, this isn't any better than dumping it into crypto scams. I have zero confidence in European corporation stocks being any more valuable in the future than U.S. equivalents right now.

Yes, right now it's a game of guessing what CEO gives handies to the U.S. government or not... and how they can deflect the use of tariffs and lawsuits to extract fealty to the king. Even so, I would still bet on U.S. companies, on average, to outperform European ones in the longer run.

People are just pulling their money out of the U.S. to cash out and stick it in a mattress where the Trump administration can't f*ck it up any further.

Which means future U.S. debt is toast: the interest rates are gonna get jacked because nobody wants to touch covering for more American T-bill IOUs. Which basically inflates the U.S.'s debt payments.

i wanted to add something similar with the balance of trade for the last 10 years which was negative for every single month in that period. a weak currency would benefit murica if the balance was positive but with a deficit, it will be painful to bear

i know that there are voices on trump's intention to stop the dollar being the primary reserve currency but it doesn't make sense unless the balance of trade really becomes positive - which is highly unlikely, even borderline impossible in the foreseeable future

i still don't get any of trump's economic policy decisions and i don't know how any of what he did benefits either the country or its allies. the whole bullshit about "murica is being abused and taken advantage of" doesn't make any sense from an economic pov. defense-wise it would be a fair point, but economically? utter nonsense.



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...Due process is about ensuring people are guaranteed the rights they are entitled to according to the law....

exactly. right wing dudes often parrot that due process is about the outcome while it's simply the right to get a fair treatment

and trump said in a current rant that they don't have time to have a trial for everyone. brilliant

 

[Lion]

Everything starts to make more sense when you look at trumps as a Russian asset. His policies are not helping usa or its allies but causing worldwide destabilization. I wonder who benefits most from this. Can’t be the Russians who trump doesn’t say a single bad word about can it?

 

[s4tch]

dude looks wasted before lunchtime lol

 

[JuveJay]

This clown looks like he is trying to sell me a vacuum cleaner.

 

[ALC]

dude looks wasted before lunchtime lol

Definition of a DEI hire

 

[Lion]

Definition of a DEI hire

DUI hire