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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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buffet never said that lol, and the video is full of bs other than that too

but if that's trump's brilliant 4d chess plan indeed, oh boy

Oh the little video is complete rubbish and I find it absolutely hilarious that Trump posted it on his socials. This is the president of the US, reposting some random Twitter account saying that he is crashing the stock market on purpose. It’s insane. :lol2:

What’s more insane is that cultists like Hust and Nomuken will defend this. Something something owning the libtards will be the response I assume
 

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Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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Oh the little video is complete rubbish and I find it absolutely hilarious that Trump posted it on his socials. This is the president of the US, reposting some random Twitter account saying that he is crashing the stock market on purpose. It’s insane. :lol2:

What’s more insane is that cultists like Hust and Nomuken will defend this. Something something owning the libtards will be the response I assume
You see trump yells it like how it is, but also he is playing 4d chess but also Biden mafia ruined things but also Biden was old and weak but also Obama etc etc

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From the Donald pre-election. Looking more and more like he just got the names backwards. Nomuken, Hust, and Gordo celebrating Trump turning strong economic growth and strong markets into the Great Depression 2.0 in just 3 months. Trump truly accomplishing the impossible.
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As usual. Every accusation from maga is a confession
 

AFL_ITALIA

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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yeah, that's easy

minimum wage in murica: $7.25 per hour
minimum wage in cambodia: $208 per month, 1.3 per hour (with 20 working days and 8 hours per day)
minimum wage in vietnam: $198 per month, 1.24 per hour
(minimum wage in hungary: 1672 huf per hour, that's $4.51. even hungary would struggle to keep up the low costs of vietnamese employment lol. at least we're not even trying.)

 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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yeah, that's easy

minimum wage in murica: $7.25 per hour
minimum wage in cambodia: $208 per month, 1.3 per hour (with 20 working days and 8 hours per day)
minimum wage in vietnam: $198 per month, 1.24 per hour
(minimum wage in hungary: 1672 huf per hour, that's $4.51. even hungary would struggle to keep up the low costs of vietnamese employment lol. at least we're not even trying.)

We're also down to 4% unemployment and are deporting the illegal immigrants who are willing to work for lower wages.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I had a good chat with a retired old school economist at a restaurant bar last night, and we talked about anything from tariffs to the Black Scholes model. He was talking about how tariffs were quite useful to us as part of establishing our country and weening off British influence back in the 1800's, which is definitely true. Moving on to today, I explained to him how this isn't going to work in a modern economy because 1) wages would need to dramatically fall and 2) much of what we would produce would be dependent upon automation. So sure, we can try to bring as much production back onshore as we want, but it's not going to actually create that many jobs. Corporations will get around the tariff taxes, employ only a handful of employees, while the machines and AI will do the work. Obviously that only would benefit the 1%. He agreed.

You look at a manufacturer like Bounty for example, the paper towel guys. I was reading yesterday about how those massive plants are operated. They span like 5 football fields, have a bunch of machinery that is self-maintainable, and only employs 6 engineers to monitor the systems and quality control. 24/7, only six employees onsite. So perhaps that one factory has at most 20 employees. So what, you're going to have massive factories everywhere only employing 20 people with AI and automation doing 99% of the work, while the remaining "public good" is all the environmental and societal impacts of having massive factories and trucks driving around everywhere? It's not going to work.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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We're also down to 4% unemployment and are deporting the illegal immigrants who are willing to work for lower wages.
last time i checked deportation wasn't working as intended, they were actually down on biden's numbers with the big illegal, inhuman show. so there might be some illegals left for a nike or an apple factory lol

putting 32% tariffs on taiwan though, that will hurt lol. even though tsmc has a murican plant they won't be able to locally supply everything american companies need for their cars, industrial machines, controlling electronics, computers and stuff

and what about small businesses. this random chick has infinite times more common sense and basic economic knowledge than lutnick and the secretary in the above clip, let alone a 1000 trumptards combined:

 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Oh poor girl, she will not exploit 3rd world countries for a cheap labor to make sippy cups lmao. Not a fan of tarrifs but the video and the girl above is just annoying.

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We're also down to 4% unemployment and are deporting the illegal immigrants who are willing to work for lower wages.
As a nation that consumes 2x as much as you produce, this will hit you hard in the short run. Very curious to see how this will reflect in the long run. The entire culture would need to change. For obvious reasons jobs have been outsourced to Asia.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
33,523
Oh poor girl, she will not exploit 3rd world countries for a cheap labor to make sippy cups lmao. Not a fan of tarrifs but the video and the girl above is just annoying.
but you're fine with wearing nike's, gas jeans and hilfiger shirts while typing on your iphone, right?

that's how many thousands of businesses work, be it sippy cups, shoes, electronics or toys. they are manufactured in asia with cheap labor, and western countries buy and use them. you might call out the general hypocrisy and it's a legit remark, you might call the chick annoying and it's fine, but she has a point. anyone who imported from asia and made their living based on this activity has their business all but finished overnight. and an even more important point she makes is that tariffs aren't usually used this way. when you have a locally made product, you can protect them with tariffs. everyone does that to a healthy extent. these tariffs are just dumb
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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but you're fine with wearing nike's, gas jeans and hilfiger shirts, right?

that's how many thousands of businesses work, be it sippy cups, shoes, electronics or toys. they are manufactured in asia with cheap labor, and western countries buy and use them. you might call out the general hypocrisy and it's a legit remark, you might call the chick annoying and it's fine, but she has a point. anyone who imported from asia and made their living based on this activity has their business all but finished overnight
I dont wear any of those... Be it clothing or food, if I can and even if it is more expensive for me to buy local, I simply refuse to buy most of foreign products. There are some obvious exceptions but in general I go by like this. Anything made in China is a no go, especially food. The girl in the video should find a real job instead of whoring herself on social media. How do you even know she is legit and not attention seeker? I dont agree with tarrifs though but I dislike histrionics more.
 
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Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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last time i checked deportation wasn't working as intended, they were actually down on biden's numbers with the big illegal, inhuman show. so there might be some illegals left for a nike or an apple factory lol

putting 32% tariffs on taiwan though, that will hurt lol. even though tsmc has a murican plant they won't be able to locally supply everything american companies need for their cars, industrial machines, controlling electronics, computers and stuff

and what about small businesses. this random chick has infinite times more common sense and basic economic knowledge than lutnick and the secretary in the above clip, let alone a 1000 trumptards combined:

I think semiconductors are exempted at least initially

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Oh poor girl, she will not exploit 3rd world countries for a cheap labor to make sippy cups lmao. Not a fan of tarrifs but the video and the girl above is just annoying.

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As a nation that consumes 2x as much as you produce, this will hit you hard in the short run. Very curious to see how this will reflect in the long run. The entire culture would need to change. For obvious reasons jobs have been outsourced to Asia.
If you want to boost manufacturing and bring back jobs targeted tariffs are the way to do it. Across the board tariffs, like what this moron implemented, won't work because one country cannot simply have the whole supply chain within its borders. Also, it's not even clear whether he wants to use them as a negotiating tactic, or simply balanced the trade by increasing the cost of exporting to the US for other countries.
Given midterm elections are in 19 months, and real chance of deep recession, there's not any room for doing shit like this. This society cannot take a shock like this.
 
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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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As a nation that consumes 2x as much as you produce, this will hit you hard in the short run. Very curious to see how this will reflect in the long run. The entire culture would need to change. For obvious reasons jobs have been outsourced to Asia.
I can promise you, this won't happen. The over ~50 year old generation is incredibly soft and can't handle any slight amount of discomfort.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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I think semiconductors are exempted at least initially
didn't know that. but if they are, then they know exactly what kind of damage tariffs can cause. i really don't see the end game here as bringing manufacturing back takes years*, labor cost is incomparably higher and we didn't even mention supply chain issues and the fact that raw materials would be subjects to tariffs anyway. they are gambling with the world economy, the idiots they are

*or not if you ask selected experts

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don't tell me twitter isn't a gold mine lol
 

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