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[Badass J Elkann]

"The Blacks and Latinos bought into being deported". Where does he say he wants to deport black and latino citizens?

You really think Trump gives 2 fucks about blacks and Latinos? He would spit on everyone of them if he could. Like I said you read into that aliens enemies act, it's much broader than it seems, and like I said he will have powers to mass deport anyone he wants irrespective of races, background, political beliefs, and it's fucking scary.

 

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[Seven]

So probably you don’t know, but it’s more or less the same in The Netherlands and Italy. If someone illegal gets a child, the child does not automatically obtain citizenship.

In Italy there are rules like children have to continuously live in Italy for 18 years to obtain a Italian passport, in The Netherlands there are certain procedures but it definitely isn’t easy. And every now and then you’ll hear a genuine sad case, but overal being born somewhere doesn’t equal getting that passport in many countries. Apparently it’s the opposite in the US? So being born there, even with illegal parents, gives you the right to get a US passport?

You really don't know enough about this to have any semblance of a valuable comment.

In the Netherlands and Italy children get assigned nationality on the basis of the nationality of their parents. It doesn't matter where the child is born. This is the jus sanguinis principle.

This is - quite famously I might add - completely different in the US, where the jus soli principle applies.

You'd do well to educate yourself first. This is really basic.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You really think Trump gives 2 fucks about blacks and Latinos? He would spit on everyone of them if he could. Like I said you read into that aliens enemies act, it's much broader than it seems, and like I said he will have powers to mass deport anyone he wants irrespective of races, background, political beliefs, and it's fucking scary.

Maybe he will deport his political enemies, but that is not what you said and I responded to.

I don't read minds, I don't know what Trump wants or plans to do. But if he never said he wants to deport black and latino citizens, then you made that up.

 

[U Picciriddu]

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...arge-deportations-legal-immigrants-rcna171265

The people he wants to deport are legal immigrants.

What you are describing is taking away the new nationality of immigrants, who have committed a very specific crime. This is something that is possible in quite a few countries, but also largely different from what Trump said he'd do.

So if you listen to the video in the link it’s quite obvious he’s speaking about the illegals migrants.

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You really don't know enough about this to have any semblance of a valuable comment.

In the Netherlands and Italy children get assigned nationality on the basis of the nationality of their parents. It doesn't matter where the child is born. This is the jus sanguinis principle.

This is - quite famously I might add - completely different in the US, where the jus soli principle applies.

You'd do well to educate yourself first. This is really basic.

You basically repeat what I said

 

[s4tch]

So probably you don’t know

lol

So being born there, even with illegal parents, gives you the right to get a US passport?

you surely don't know but yes, that's the case. google 'birthright citizenship' for more details

 

[Seven]

So if you listen to the video in the link it’s quite obvious he’s speaking about the illegals migrants.

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How?

How is it clear? He's talking about deporting immigrants from a place with mostly legal immigrants.

You basically repeat what I said

If you don't even know on what basis you get nationality in the US, your knowledge about this subject is ridiculously limited. Read first, talk later.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Maybe he will deport his political enemies, but that is not what you said and I responded to.

I don't read minds, I don't know what Trump wants or plans to do. But if he never said he wants to deport black and latino citizens, then you made that up.

A racist, fascist, wanna be dictator who will soon have powers without guard rails, you don't need him to say he wants to deport blacks and latinos, he will have powers to do it and I have no doubt someone as unhinged as Trump he will carry it out.

 

[Ronn]

I think it’s quite clear that it’s about illegal aliens, it’s north of 10m since Biden’s administration

That famous Leopard Eating People’s Faces Party lol.
After all said and done how exactly do you know what Trump really means?

 

[Seven]

That famous Leopard Eating People’s Faces Party lol.
After all said and done how exactly do you know what Trump really means?

He's just one of those people who secretly want a strong dictator to fix everything for them.

I mean, I get that. Zero responsibility. It's like being a child. But at least own what you're saying. Don't hide it.

 

[U Picciriddu]

How?

How is it clear? He's talking about deporting immigrants from a place with mostly legal immigrants.



If you don't even know on what basis you get nationality in the US, your knowledge about this subject is ridiculously limited. Read first, talk later.

Well I asked for confirmation, the rest you repeated my post. It’s more or less the same but in different words.

Also about Springfield, it costs two minutes to debunk:

Springfield, Ohio, is the latest city in America to be making headlines due to the Biden-Harris immigration crisis. This city, home to about 58,000 people, has experienced an influx of about

15,000 migrants – many of whom are Haitian nationals — over the past several years.

If anything it more reminds me of European rhetorics when we got faced with a heavy influx of migrants, law simply wasn’t ready yet to revoke passport for example. But in theory I don’t see practices that are fundamentally different from Europe. We deport illegal aliens, we seek agreements with North-African countries to stop migrant streams but also agreements to have them accepting their own citizens (which is often a problem).

 

[Bjerknes]

Deporting 10M people, many of which are located in urban areas, isn't really feasible in the short run. If he tries to do this using the national guard, the cities will become war zones. Obviously he doesn't care about that, but I would prepare for a lot of civil unrest and a return to pseudo covid lockdowns for a while.

 

[Al Birdie]

He wants to deport from 10 to 30mil people. Latino population in the US is ~9%. Any Latino voter, thinking he is talking about someone else are straight up in denial
Luckily for you, it is not feasible to deport so many people in short amount of time. I wish he could though. I really do.

 

[Seven]

Well I asked for confirmation, the rest you repeated my post. It’s more or less the same but in different words.

Also about Springfield, it costs two minutes to debunk:

They are legal immigrants.

 

[Ronn]

He's just one of those people who secretly want a strong dictator to fix everything for them.

I mean, I get that. Zero responsibility. It's like being a child. But at least own what you're saying. Don't hide it.

I really don't want to get into name calling people in this thread, which is toxic as is. I'm really curious to know how does he know?
A Trump admin might do all of that and might do none of that. But brushing it off as "yeah he really meant something else" is just silly.
That alien enemies act thing worries me a lot actually. I'm a naturalized citizen, born in Iran. If this war with Iran heats up, am I gonna get deported, or put in a camp like Japanese during WWII? I don't get a warm feeling from "don't worry he didn't mean you" people.

 

[Seven]

I really don't want to get into name calling people in this thread, which is toxic as is. I'm really curious to know how does he know?
A Trump admin might do all of that and might do none of that. But brushing it off as "yeah he really meant something else" is just silly.
That alien enemies act thing worries me a lot actually. I'm a naturalized citizen, born in Iran. If this war with Iran heats up, am I gonna get deported, or put in a camp like Japanese during WWII? I don't get a warm feeling from "don't worry he didn't mean you" people.

It's not exactly name calling. He has hinted at it in the past in other threads. For what it's worth, even if I'm a defender of democracy, I think it's not necessarily a bad thing to consider other forms of government. That's not where I have a problem with him.

And no, he doesn't know. He just thinks he does, because deporting naturalized citizens is inconceivable in Europe. So he assumes Trump cannot be that bad.

I know it might not offer you any comfort, but I don't think there will be any mass deportations at all. That would screw over the economy.

 

[Bjerknes]

He wants to deport from 10 to 30mil people. Latino population in the US is ~9%. Any Latino voter, thinking he is talking about someone else are straight up in denial
Luckily for you, it is not feasible to deport so many people in short amount of time. I wish he could though. I really do.

Show of hands. Who wants to join the Trump team to gear up and round up all the illegals (or whomever) in the cities? Any takers?

I bet @Hust would. Come on man, take one for the team and get these people outta here for Murica.

 

[Ronn]

Well I asked for confirmation, the rest you repeated my post. It’s more or less the same but in different words.

Also about Springfield, it costs two minutes to debunk:



If anything it more reminds me of European rhetorics when we got faced with a heavy influx of migrants, law simply wasn’t ready yet to revoke passport for example. But in theory I don’t see practices that are fundamentally different from Europe. We deport illegal aliens, we seek agreements with North-African countries to stop migrant streams but also agreements to have them accepting their own citizens (which is often a problem).

Aren't those Haitian migrants in Springfield OH legal?

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He wants to deport from 10 to 30mil people. Latino population in the US is ~9%. Any Latino voter, thinking he is talking about someone else are straight up in denial
Luckily for you, it is not feasible to deport so many people in short amount of time. I wish he could though. I really do.

May I ask why?

 

[Seven]

Show of hands. Who wants to join the Trump team to gear up and round up all the illegals (or whomever) in the cities? Any takers?

I bet @Hust would. Come on man, take one for the team and get these people outta here for Murica.

You say that in jest, but millions of Americans would volunteer to round up illegals and deport them.

That's where the media suck. Nazi Germany didn't happen by chance. It's not like the Germans voted for Hitler by mistake and suddenly woke up in a different world. No, we need to understand this: the majority of Americans want to hurt a very considerable part of the population.

 

[s4tch]

They are legal immigrants.

this is literally in the article he posted (as a bad argument, but he posted it anyway): https://apnews.com/article/biden-im...ua-venezuela-34b8b79d57a3ccff49cd89ea224a2748

 

[Seven]

Aren't those Haitian migrants in Springfield OH legal?

They are, but he's not able to make the distinction between legal and illegal immigration.