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[icemaη]

That's ridiculous


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Suggesting that black and latino citizens will be deported is bullshit/misinformation

 

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[s4tch]

That's ridiculous


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Suggesting that black and latino citizens will be deported is bullshit/misinformation

that's from 2023 buddy:


and has been an important campaign message too

 

[Al Birdie]

Btw, RFK Jr as head of Health & Human Services would be a perfect example of the flavor of "meritocracy" that comes with Trump.

I think it was eeeeelon who went on and on about meritocracy.
But in this case the irony is even higher- mr. Shit for brains directing literal rocket scientists

 

[Bjerknes]

Any Latino who voted for Trump should be deported on the basis of just being stupid. Send 'em home.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

And before anyone pounces on me for my political beliefs I'm neither left nor right, I care about decency, democracy, pro choice, pro freedom, is that too much to ask in this day and age?

 

[U Picciriddu]

That's ridiculous


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Suggesting that black and latino citizens will be deported is bullshit/misinformation

I think it’s quite clear that it’s about illegal aliens, it’s north of 10m since Biden’s administration

 

[s4tch]

And before anyone pounces on me for my political beliefs I'm neither left nor right, I care about decency, democracy, pro choice, pro freedom, is that too much to ask in this day and age?

according to iliveforjuve it is

then again, he's a latino who'd vote for trump as the ultimate cuck move. then he'd get deported lol

 

[Bjerknes]

And before anyone pounces on me for my political beliefs I'm neither left nor right, I care about decency, democracy, pro choice, pro freedom, is that too much to ask in this day and age?

When you say pro freedom, you mean you're for taking away the rights of people you hate, right?

 

[Seven]

I think it’s quite clear that it’s about illegal aliens, it’s north of 10m since Biden’s administration

I repeat. Read what Trump says before you reach a conclusion.

It is not "quite clear" at all.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

according to iliveforjuve it is

then again, he's a latino who'd vote for trump as the ultimate cuck move. then he'd get deported lol

Yeah well I never sympathise with people who voted for something and got something they didn't want for it. I just dont want to live in a world where the leader of the free world is a fascist dictator, I may not live in the US but I feel quite strongly about this and how this will impact not just Americans but what happens abroad. I think people have gotten complacent into thinking a dictatorship in US rule is even possible

 

[s4tch]

I think it’s quite clear that it’s about illegal aliens, it’s north of 10m since Biden’s administration

it's quite clear that you didn't check what iceman and i posted

 

[U Picciriddu]

I repeat. Read what Trump says before you reach a conclusion.

It is not "quite clear" at all.

Give the quote please.

Also the article posted isn’t something unique in the US. It happens here to, even with the most progressive party governing for the past 6 or so years (stripping migrants who are involved in heavy crime or terrorist activities from their Dutch citizenship).

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Like I said this act allows him to remove his political enemies, deport anyone he wants, Trump without guard rails can now do that, always talks about the enemy from within, what do you think he means by that? There's a reason why that act is from 1798 and not more recent.

Welcome to 1939 ladies and gents. Good luck to you all.

You said black and latino voters before, not political enemies. Not that the latter is right either, but it's not the same thing.

Can't access the article.

that's from 2023 buddy:


and has been an important campaign message too

He says banning the children of illegal immigrants from automatically becoming citizens, not deporting black and latino voters, which is what I said was BS.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

When you say pro freedom, you mean you're for taking away the rights of people you hate, right?

I never said that.

 

[Seven]

Give the quote please.

Also the article posted isn’t something unique in the US. It happens here to, even with the most progressive party governing for the past 6 or so years (stripping migrants who are involved in heavy crime or terrorist activities from their Dutch citizenship).

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...arge-deportations-legal-immigrants-rcna171265

The people he wants to deport are legal immigrants.

What you are describing is taking away the new nationality of immigrants, who have committed a very specific crime. This is something that is possible in quite a few countries, but also largely different from what Trump said he'd do.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

You said black and latino voters before, not political enemies. Not that the latter is right either, but it's not the same thing.


Can't access the article.


He says banning the children of illegal immigrants from automatically becoming citizens, not deporting black and latino voters, which is what I said was BS.

I said he will be able to deport whoever he wants, political enemies, minority groups anyone! Latinos and blacks happen to fall into that category.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I said he will be able to deport whoever he wants, political enemies, minority groups anyone! Latinos and blacks happen to fall into that category.

"The Blacks and Latinos bought into being deported". Where does he say he wants to deport black and latino citizens?

 

[U Picciriddu]

it's quite clear that you didn't check what iceman and i posted

So probably you don’t know, but it’s more or less the same in The Netherlands and Italy. If someone illegal gets a child, the child does not automatically obtain citizenship.

In Italy there are rules like children have to continuously live in Italy for 18 years to obtain a Italian passport, in The Netherlands there are certain procedures but it definitely isn’t easy. And every now and then you’ll hear a genuine sad case, but overal being born somewhere doesn’t equal getting that passport in many countries. Apparently it’s the opposite in the US? So being born there, even with illegal parents, gives you the right to get a US passport?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

"The Blacks and Latinos bought into being deported". Where does he say he wants to deport black and latino citizens?

You really think Trump gives 2 fucks about blacks and Latinos? He would spit on everyone of them if he could. Like I said you read into that aliens enemies act, it's much broader than it seems, and like I said he will have powers to mass deport anyone he wants irrespective of races, background, political beliefs, and it's fucking scary.

 

[Seven]

So probably you don’t know, but it’s more or less the same in The Netherlands and Italy. If someone illegal gets a child, the child does not automatically obtain citizenship.

In Italy there are rules like children have to continuously live in Italy for 18 years to obtain a Italian passport, in The Netherlands there are certain procedures but it definitely isn’t easy. And every now and then you’ll hear a genuine sad case, but overal being born somewhere doesn’t equal getting that passport in many countries. Apparently it’s the opposite in the US? So being born there, even with illegal parents, gives you the right to get a US passport?

You really don't know enough about this to have any semblance of a valuable comment.

In the Netherlands and Italy children get assigned nationality on the basis of the nationality of their parents. It doesn't matter where the child is born. This is the jus sanguinis principle.

This is - quite famously I might add - completely different in the US, where the jus soli principle applies.

You'd do well to educate yourself first. This is really basic.