'Murica! (112 Viewers)

Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
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Watch Biden take credit for all of the success of the Pfizer drug and distribution measures for Covid even through everything was developed under the Trump admin. The media will say the plan came together under Biden and that, along with everything else he does, is what saved American from Trump's virus. And 'Muricans will believe it.



He didn't do that. The media did that.
LOL. You're funny.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Watch Biden take credit for all of the success of the Pfizer drug and distribution measures for Covid even through everything was developed under the Trump admin. The media will say the plan came together under Biden and that, along with everything else he does, is what saved American from Trump's virus. And 'Muricans will believe it.



He didn't do that. The media did that.
trump has nothing to do with Pfizer’s vaccine tho
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Not scientifically, no. But he's been pushing them and others pretty hard.
I think what’s been pushing them is the fact that there’s a global pandemic and they stand to make a lot of money from a vaccine. Trump can’t push them to do anything, they’re a private company.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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IMHO 1) Biden won 2) There were a lot of monkey business in this election 3) Russia interfered 2016 election just because they want a divide country and they succeed 4) Biden serves way better to Socialist around the world because they know he's going to have the same approach Obama had
Please explain how Biden and Obama are socialists.
If they are socialists, then every other developed country in the world is communist.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I think what’s been pushing them is the fact that there’s a global pandemic and they stand to make a lot of money from a vaccine. Trump can’t push them to do anything, they’re a private company.
It's been widely reported Trump had regular meetings with the execs of the big players not only in big pharm but also firms like 3M in ramping up production of PPE for both government and private use. Some of those meetings also had to do with reducing costs on prices for other drugs.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Please explain how Biden and Obama are socialists.
If they are socialists, then every other developed country in the world is communist.
Reminds me of a quote I read recently;

"Almost all debates between socialism and capitalism boil down to capitalists' inability to define socialism."

Obama gets called a socialist simply because they used to call centrists "liberals" and then the word became nothing, so they started throwing "socialist" around as if he was coming to take away your guns, rights and Walmart.
 

Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
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Every election cycle it’s the same narrative: the democrats are coming after your guns, your freedom etc.

Btw, why didn’t Trump attempt to do away with the patriot act? After all the GOP had both houses in the first 2 years of Trump’s presidency.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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The consistently most bizzare thing about american politics is a century of ignorantly misusing the term socialism.
The funny thing is: Republicans love certain socialist agencies: the Police, the Departments of Homeland Security, the Armed Forces and the fire department.
As long as any agency isn’t used to help poor people, they are fine with it.
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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Does the political party have any say in how the money raised for an election is spend or is it completely at the discretion of the candidate and his/her campaign?
yes, you can either donate to the party. In that case the money is distributed to candidates the party wishes to push. Or you can donate directly to a candidate or to a pac. In that case the candidate receives the money directly. When you donate to a pac, the pac may sponsor one or a few candidates that fall under similar ideals. In that case, the pac decides how they distribute the money.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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What's ever weirder is some random Euros also calling this socialism when they (should) know exactly what socialism is

You can literally convince some people they don't have two arms and legs when they do
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Just went through the looney man’s Twitter. He also fired his defense of secretary Mark Esper, they had disagreements with deploying troops against protesters.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I think what’s been pushing them is the fact that there’s a global pandemic and they stand to make a lot of money from a vaccine. Trump can’t push them to do anything, they’re a private company.
Uhm, thats actually not true when it comes to American companies.

A multinational can recall any owned asset of one of its smaller owned companies at any given time.

In august , the Trump administration has been very aggressive in forcing all US based multinational pharmaceutical companies, to make sure that the vaccine was beeing developped for the US market first.
Some countries have a law that enables them to block critical technology to go abroad.
Belgium(Pfizer) and Germany (promising developments by some smaller company owned by a US multinational) have been in the news for this particulat phenomenion.
Actually, all of europa was pretty unhappy about Trump forcing this.


Same goes for the US army.

I'm working as a senior optical test engineer for a 3D metal printing company. Its parent company is US based.
All plastic (resin) based development is in the US
All Metals based development is in Leuven (belgium)

Except that the US army also wants certain parts. So we have a specific division in the US that makes 3D metal printed parts for the US army. They leech our technology, in one direction, but they got quite some huge funding


Trump's america first was quite visual in this aspect

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What's ever weirder is some random Euros also calling this socialism when they (should) know exactly what socialism is

You can literally convince some people they don't have two arms and legs when they do
In belgium we'd say

"Republicans are pretty capitalistic as it gets"

"democrats are as socialist, as our big central right party"


Actual socialism is fine if done with moderation. If not, like Belgium, it just fucking sucks to see how taxed into the ground you are and how disgusting lazy slobs live off wellfare that you provide

Oh yes we have time-unlimited wellfare
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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It's just a fun thing to say how Biden & Harris are communists. COMMIES ARRRRRR who doesn't hate them, right?

Everybody knows they are neoliberal warmongering oligarchs using all tools available to make the average chinless soy latte consumer feel like they belong to some resistance (like in my favourite superhero movie!!!!!!!!') when infact we're looking at some solid old fashioned Dick Cheney shit.
 

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