'Murica! (125 Viewers)

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,924
See once again mocking I was asking a serious question and instead of answers I get mockery same old bs
You didn't ask a serious question. You said "you think?" followed by your opinion on the matter. Nobody will fall for that being a serious question.

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For all your supposed knowledge how come when one asks a question all they receive is mockery and not real answers!?
You did receive real answers from me. Did not answer a single question I asked though.
 

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
As a business owner and a middle class Americans yes they are. We have seen the difference in the business end and in the paycheck end. So I don’t think I can see it and feel it
lol

You are clueless. Tax cuts help the upper middle class and more affluent alone. Trickle down economics have never worked to empower the middle and poor class. They have only served to make the rich-poor gap inflate out of control since the Reagan era began and his obscene tax cuts. There's a reason those tax cuts coincided with the beginning of the slow death of the American middle class over the last 35 years.

No one below upper middle class gets enough of a benefit from several hundred dollars of income tax savings to offset the losses to public education and healthcare, to social services and programs that the lower middle class and impoverished utilize.

And corporate tax cuts pretty obviously don't help small businesses.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,924
Irrelevant to what? I generally strongly disagree with that statement though. To me the slightest improvements matter, and they matter significantly. If I knew I would be deprived of 1000 things under x and 999 things under y as the president, I'd consider the position of presidency relevant to my well-being and would choose y.
When you have somebody like Trump, it is irrelevant. Of course Iran deal in 2015 showed that it could be far from irrelevant.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,892
lol

You are clueless. Tax cuts help the upper middle class and more affluent alone. Trickle down economics have never worked to empower the middle and poor class. They have only served to make the rich-poor gap inflate out of control since the Reagan era began and his obscene tax cuts. There's a reason those tax cuts coincided with the beginning of the slow death of the American middle class over the last 35 years.

No one below upper middle class gets enough of a benefit from several hundred dollars of income tax savings to offset the losses to public education and healthcare, to social services and programs that the lower middle class and impoverished utilize.

And corporate tax cuts pretty obviously don't help small businesses.
I asked him for specifics. All I got was some libertarian talking points.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126
lol

You are clueless. Tax cuts help the upper middle class and more affluent alone. Trickle down economics have never worked to empower the middle and poor class. They have only served to make the rich-poor gap inflate out of control since the Reagan era began and his obscene tax cuts. There's a reason those tax cuts coincided with the beginning of the slow death of the American middle class over the last 35 years.

No one below upper middle class gets enough of a benefit from several hundred dollars of income tax savings to offset the losses to public education and healthcare, to social services and programs that the lower middle class and impoverished utilize.

And corporate tax cuts pretty obviously don't help small businesses.
Do you own a business? Do you deal with a corporate accountant? No so how the hell am I clueless when I see it every month
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,924
You just quoted one of those people. No need to lecture me on mullahs oppression. My parents still live in Iran. My Mom asked me yesterday that what's the point in negotiating with US if they can blow it up anytime they want?
Put this next to travel ban and you can see how they feel right now.
About Iranian people no, no one answered it
ICYMI
 

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MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,832
There will be no blue wave. Democrats are loosing support with millennial voters. Black male support for trump has doubled from 11% to 22% and it’s only been 1.5 years. If the economy keeps growing and these trends continue its game set match. Besides the Democrats have no ideas. They just attack on all costs. Russia probe is a bust nothing happened. Stormy Daniels is a load of cum and that’s all she wrote
You should check the special election results since Trump got elected, easily disproves what you're saying. Many don't find the Democrats to be liberal enough, hence the fervor of support that Sanders received. That's based on a weekly Reuters poll with a small sample size.

The economy was set to grow REGARDLESS of who was President, please understand this. Yes, the tax cut will increase economic indicators but this:
1. Doesn't necessarily translate to actual real help for the middle class (I'm not talking an extra $20 to a paycheck) and
2. This huge deficit that he's adding to will need to be paid for eventually. And I can guarantee, it's not going to be the rich that foot the bill. By the way, their tax cuts are permanent, ours are temporary if I remember correctly.

No ideas regarding...? Attacks are warranted on this administration. Very warranted. What are you talking about? It's not done yet. Or I suppose he hired Giuliani for giggles?

Remember those saying Trump and Hillary are not that different? :lol:
Simpler, innocent times :touched:
 

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