'Murica! (291 Viewers)

[Seven]

I agree in principal. But I have one more question: has it ever happened with him?
Also you probably won't ever see an American hardcore Trump supporter in a football forum.

No, you won't. But global protests and disapproval always matter. As Trump himself has shown opinions can spread like wildfire. What this guy needs is massive and I mean massive disapproval.

 

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[Zacheryah]

How can you still say this? What do you expect is going to happen in the next two-three months?

And before it was just him campaigning and we needed to see what he'd as president. You can't do this. You can't reserve judgment forever.

I've had that discussion with a friend about our current goverment.


He disliked NVA right off the bat. I normally vote liberal (which is something completely different in belgium, relax Pumpkin),but if our liberals (VLD) end up in a goverment with PS/SPA they'll drop all their points in trade of minister places.
So i voted NVA, hoping they'd get into goverment with VLD so for the first time in 2 decades, VLD would actually do what they promised during the elections


I said that we should wait 4 years to see the result of the cuts. He said it was bad and would be bad and made his judgement on day 1.



I prefer to wait untill the evidence clearly shows, it is indeed bad

 

[Ronn]

No, you won't. But global protests and disapproval always matter. As Trump himself has shown opinions can spread like wildfire. What this guy needs is massive and I mean massive disapproval.

I admire your optimism dude. I really do. Protests should not only be massive, but continuous.

 

[campionesidd]

I thought Obama was the worst president ever according to Trumpists.... then why are they responding to criticisms of the Muslim ban by saying Obama made the list of high risk countries and praising it at the same time?

 

[king Ale]

I dont like Israel. And i absolutely dislike Saudi Arabia. I dont mind if their warships get attacked.

But the sad fucking truth is that they are the two biggest american ally's, and not a single US president is having it if they come under threat from another nation.


Hoori, name me one single US president that wont retalliate if any nation attacks SA or Israel.

Discussing things with you is pointless Zach. You say something wrong, when you are called out on that, you just dance around it and then in the next post you repeat the original wrong comment. My strong suspicion is that you like Trump for the reasons that nutjob zoso does.

I'm not going to freak out either. But when I remember that the State Department is depleted of the diplomats that could open channels with Iran, and the country is being run by a lunatic with even crazier staff, I can't say I'm not at least worried.

A war with Iran will involve Saudi and Israel too, so unless they decide to have the whole goddamn region bombed and destroyed, it's not gonna happen.

Btw, did you see this:

http://www.isna.ir/news/95110805180/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A6%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%82%D8%AA-%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C-%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%A7-%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D9%BE%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%DA%A9%D9%88-%D8%B1%D8%AE-%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%BE

 

[Zacheryah]

I like that Republicans and alt-right folk are still trying to say that "it's not a muslim ban"... Our very own bozo does it.

I dont think they can legally put a muslim ban. Reps and alt right are sheeping behind that

 

[Seven]

I thought Obama was the worst president ever according to Trumpists.... then why are they responding to criticisms of the Muslim ban by saying Obama made the list of high risk countries and praising it at the same time?

Because they have the ability to not let logic affect them and make their decisions based on emotions alone.

Which is going to look real pretty when a relative dies of cancer because he couldn't afford treatment because Trump took his healthcare away.

 

[Ronn]

I thought Obama was the worst president ever according to Trumpists.... then why are they responding to criticisms of the Muslim ban by saying Obama made the list of high risk countries and praising it at the same time?

It's a strategy. And I should admit it's working very well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

 

[Seven]

I admire your optimism dude. I really do. Protests should not only be massive, but continuous.

Not much else you can do but try to be optimistic.

I've had that discussion with a friend about our current goverment.


He disliked NVA right off the bat. I normally vote liberal (which is something completely different in belgium, relax Pumpkin),but if our liberals (VLD) end up in a goverment with PS/SPA they'll drop all their points in trade of minister places.
So i voted NVA, hoping they'd get into goverment with VLD so for the first time in 2 decades, VLD would actually do what they promised during the elections


I said that we should wait 4 years to see the result of the cuts. He said it was bad and would be bad and made his judgement on day 1.



I prefer to wait untill the evidence clearly shows, it is indeed bad

That's the thing. Evidence already has shown it.

Both for Trump and the N-VA btw.

 

[Zacheryah]

Discussing things with you is pointless Zach. You say something wrong, when you are called out on that, you just dance around it and then in the next post you repeat the original wrong comment. My strong suspicion is that you like Trump for the reasons that nutjob zoso does.



A war with Iran will involve Saudi and Israel too, so unless they decide to have the whole goddamn region bombed and destroyed, it's not gonna happen.

Btw, did you see this:

http://www.isna.ir/news/95110805180/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A6%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%82%D8%AA-%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C-%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%A7-%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D9%BE%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%DA%A9%D9%88-%D8%B1%D8%AE-%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%BE

Its just an example.


I find it hard to read the google translation if i'm honest

 

[Ronn]

A war with Iran will involve Saudi and Israel too, so unless they decide to have the whole goddamn region bombed and destroyed, it's not gonna happen.

Btw, did you see this:

http://www.isna.ir/news/95110805180/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A6%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D9%82%D8%AA-%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C-%DA%A9%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%A7-%D8%AF%DB%8C%DA%AF%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%86%D8%AF-%D9%BE%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%DA%A9%D9%88-%D8%B1%D8%AE-%D9%86%D8%AF%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%BE

Oh god what did I just read! How can he be this stupid?

 

[Zacheryah]

Not much else you can do but try to be optimistic.


That's the thing. Evidence already has shown it.

Both for Trump and the N-VA btw.

i'll stay at "NVA didnt take the best decisions, but from the available coalition options, it was by far the best one available'

 

[Seven]

i'll stay at "NVA didnt take the best decisions, but from the available coalition options, it was by far the best one available'

I disagree. But nevermind.

At this point I must say I'm starting to get the same feeling Hoori is. Are you willing to look at the facts, to admit what you said in the past and not resort to shifting the discussion every single time?

Because, yes, it does come across as if you like Trump because of the reasons ZoSo likes him and you're trying to rationalise it.

 

[campionesidd]

Oh god what did I just read! How can he be this stupid?

Can you explain what is says? Google Translate is dumber than Trump himself.

 

[ALC]

Why does Zoso like Trump?

 

[Seven]

Why does Zoso like Trump?

Because ZoSo's as racist as they come.

And he hides it very poorly. Now that's a guy you can't debate with. He'll just outright lie about his motives.

 

[king Ale]

Oh god what did I just read! How can he be this stupid?

Khamaneei clearly said he preferred Trump to Clinton during the elections, so did other radicals over there, then we have Russia and its relationship with Iran and Trump, then obviously we have the likes of Giuliani and Bolton and their relationship with Mojahedin, then freaking Sepah tests a missile; I can't wrap my head around it.

 

[Ronn]

Can you explain what is says? Google Translate is dumber than Trump himself.

It needs a bit of a background. Every Friday, a Friday prayer is held across Iran in which an Imam (typically the biggest ayatollah of that city) gives an hour long political speech. The content of these speeches are usually controlled by the supreme leader, as it is a semi-official position of his organization. The one in Tehran is especially important since it attracts more people, is televised in national TV, and the speaker is closer to the Supreme Leader.
Last week's speaker (the guy in the photo) asks Trump to stick by his promises to make his country great and don't meddle with other countries. He also tells him that "you inherited a poor and hungry nation, so try not to follow the previous administrations, and turn America's trigger happy culture into a culture that serves the world".
He also says (no kidding) that "Sticking by promises is a part of Islam"!

 

[king Ale]

Can you explain what is says? Google Translate is dumber than Trump himself.

The guy (one of the radical clerics in Iran close to the supreme leader) is praising Trump for being pro-people, asking him to stick to the promises he made during his campaigns, so he can save America from their misery

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It's good to have Zach in this thread so you get an idea of what Trump supporters are thinking