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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Reading comprehension.

I said a rich white guy (Shapiro), saying another rich white guy who refuses to disavow white supremacy (Bannon) isn't racist.

How exactly do you come to the conclusion that I was saying Shapiro is racist?
Why cant "a rich white guy" make such statement ?


You imply its because he is actually racist.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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Whatever it is, it is not what you think it was. Read it again.
Claiming a rich white guy cant make a statement about racism, is racist

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Yeah Zach. I'm a white guy who is super bigoted against white guys. :lol:
@DAiDEViL

I'm a bigot! :weee:
Respond to the question instead of your 5th consecutive post of belitteling, insulting and bashing me.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Why cant "a rich white guy" make such statement ?


You imply its because he is actually racist.
FFS, you are absurd.

And no I don't imply anything of the sort. I imply that a rich white guy isn't necessarily the best judge of character of another rich white guy as it pertains to whether the latter is racist or not, especially when the latter is involved with white nationalism.

You literally used a Ben Shapiro quote to tell everyone that Bannon isn't racist. I'd like a little more evidence than that.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Claiming a rich white guy cant make a statement about racism, is racist

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Respond to the question instead of your 5th consecutive post of belitteling, insulting and bashing me.
:lol: You seriously have reading problems? Whether it is bigoted or not is not the question. He did not say or imply that Shapiro is a white supremacist. You can't read and understand what he said. You can't read and understand what I said either.
 

Post Ironic

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:lol: You seriously have reading problems? Whether it is bigoted or not is not the question. He did not say or imply that Shapiro is a white supremacist. You can't read and understand what he said. You can't read and understand what I said either.
:lol:

The leaps of logic he takes are extraordinary.

Nowhere did I say a rich white guy can't have an opinion about the "racism" of another rich white guy.

Zach made a post about how Ben Shapiro saying Bannon isn't a racist means he isn't a racist.

What I'm obviously saying is that, the statement of one rich white guy doesn't provide proof in the slightest considering Bannon's links to white nationalism.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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FFS, you are absurd.

And no I don't imply anything of the sort. I imply that a rich white guy isn't the necessarily the best judge of character of another rich white guy as it pertains to whether the latter is racist or not, especially when the latter is involved with white nationalism.

You literally used a Ben Shapiro quote to tell everyone that Bannon isn't racist. I'd like a little more evidence than that.
See. Was it so hard to make a post with only one insult (which was fine this time) ?

You really should try it more. It allows me to become less defensive. Its called basic conversation and discussion. Dont attack the other party's credentials, and they'll be more open to agree with you.



Shapiro is the guy who can speek free, that has the most knowledge about Bannon.

He's a massive victim of anti semetic attacks by Yiannapoulis and Bannon followers after leaving breitbart. He has a very good moral compas tho (altho like any jew, biassed about israel).


Therefore, he's a good reference.



We can ask big johnson from the ghetto who is black about Bannon. Big Johnson will know all about racism, but doesnt know shit about bannon besides what he reads in press
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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America is a top ally for Europe and Japan, not the other way around.
Zach. At this point it's better tot admit that Trump, for a variety of reasons, is pretty much a crook.

Let's forget everything else you said and focus on the fact you wanted to see what he did. We're nearing two weeks in. I know you agree they were horrible.

Don't do this anymore. You don't have to.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
:lol:

The leaps of logic he takes are extraordinary.

Nowhere did I say a rich white guy can't have an opinion about the "racism" of another rich white guy.

Zach made a post about how Ben Shapiro saying Bannon isn't a racist means he isn't a racist.

What I'm obviously saying is that, the statement of one rich white guy doesn't provide proof in the slightest considering Bannon's links to white nationalism.
Thats not what i said.

Its common to say these days that "only white persons are racists" and that "they cant judge about racism" as they all have implicit racism.


Seems like you didnt go down that path. Fine, i'll retract my statement calling you biggotted about Shapiro :tup:


However. Not insulting/belitteling/discrediting me in every post, would have prevented this.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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See. Was it so hard to make a post with only one insult (which was fine this time) ?

You really should try it more. It allows me to become less defensive. Its called basic conversation and discussion. Dont attack the other party's credentials, and they'll be more open to agree with you.



Shapiro is the guy who can speek free, that has the most knowledge about Bannon.

He's a massive victim of anti semetic attacks by Yiannapoulis and Bannon followers after leaving breitbart. He has a very good moral compas tho (altho like any jew, biassed about israel).


Therefore, he's a good reference.



We can ask big johnson from the ghetto who is black about Bannon. Big Johnson will know all about racism, but doesnt know shit about bannon besides what he reads in press
And I can quote Kurt Bardella who worked with Bannon for two years at Breitbart:

“If anyone sat there and listened to that call, you’d think that you were attending a white supremacist rally,” said Bardella, citing what he called Bannon’s “nationalism and hatred for immigrants, people coming into this country to try to get a better life for themselves.”

“This is someone who has a very low moral compass,” he said of Bannon, “and the idea that this is the type of person that Donald Trump, as the Republican nominee, as president, would have closest to him is very disturbing.”
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Zach. At this point it's better tot admit that Trump, for a variety of reasons, is pretty much a crook.

Let's forget everything else you said and focus on the fact you wanted to see what he did. We're nearing two weeks in. I know you agree they were horrible.

Don't do this anymore. You don't have to.
How many times have you asked this already? It's not gonna happen.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Zach. At this point it's better tot admit that Trump, for a variety of reasons, is pretty much a crook.

Let's forget everything else you said and focus on the fact you wanted to see what he did. We're nearing two weeks in. I know you agree they were horrible.

Don't do this anymore. You don't have to.
Trump continues his authoritarian economics. I disaprove as i did from the start,but i've said i want to see how it works out and i'll still say it
Trump is beeing overly populistic. I dont like populists actually, i bash the belgian socialist party all the time for doing it. But i know trump wants to be very highly approved by his voters to make him untouchable for his fellow republicans that dont like him. Reps are a pool of crocodiles tbh.
Trump missed a great opportunity to do the better thing with the texas mosque and the shootings in canada after responding first when fox published a faux news report. I hope it learns him to wait a bit.
He should have a 24h delay between a fact happening and him responding on twitter
Their reason behind the extreme vetting and consequent ban on visa's is actually a valid one and a campaign promise. But for fucks sake that could have been dealth with so much better.

He should hire someone to talk in his place.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Trump continues his authoritarian economics. I disaprove as i did from the start,but i've said i want to see how it works out and i'll still say it
Trump is beeing overly populistic. I dont like populists actually, i bash the belgian socialist party all the time for doing it. But i know trump wants to be very highly approved by his voters to make him untouchable for his fellow republicans that dont like him. Reps are a pool of crocodiles tbh.
Trump missed a great opportunity to do the better thing with the texas mosque and the shootings in canada after responding first when fox published a faux news report. I hope it learns him to wait a bit.
He should have a 24h delay between a fact happening and him responding on twitter
Their reason behind the extreme vetting and consequent ban on visa's is actually a valid one and a campaign promise. But for fucks sake that could have been dealth with so much better.

He should hire someone to talk in his place.
How can you still say this? What do you expect is going to happen in the next two-three months?

And before it was just him campaigning and we needed to see what he'd as president. You can't do this. You can't reserve judgment forever.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
At some point he will. It's people like Zach that need to be convinced to get rid of this guy. You can't convince Trump's hardcore base.
True.


I know Hoori will murder me for making this hypothesis, but i'll take the risk (there are worse ways to end)


If Iran would send a missle to israel. And he'll respond by sending anti air to Israel, i'd be fine with it

If he would go all bush senior and invades Iran, i'll say he's a massive idiot


I do not imply by any means Iran would do this or even considers it. Its just an example.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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At some point he will. It's people like Zach that need to be convinced to get rid of this guy. You can't convince Trump's hardcore base.
I agree in principal. But I have one more question: has it ever happened with him?
Also you probably won't ever see an American hardcore Trump supporter in a football forum.
 

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