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[Post Ironic]

Actually I think it's a smart plot. Getting rid of department of education has been one of the GOP talking points in the past few years. Carson will lead an imaginary DoEd without even knowing that there's nothing to run. He'll give speeches in empty halls and gives nonsensical BS status reports to the POTUS every once in a while. Everyone will be happy


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It's always amusing that poor and lower middle class white people support a party that wants to destroy public education, public healthcare, and social services.

Keep the people stupid I suppose so they continue voting against their own self-interest.

 

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[Ronn]

How the fuck do you make someone who essentially thinks aliens/Bible characters build the pyramids, in charge of an entire nations education? FFS...

Well you don't.
But I just wanna say that DoED is not exactly in charge of the entire education. States have vast rights on that matter.


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[Ronn]

It's always amusing that poor and lower middle class white people support a party that wants to destroy public education, public healthcare, and social services.

Keep the people stupid I suppose so they continue voting against their own self-interest.

Did you see the exit polls? Clinton beat Trump in under 50k income bracket, and barely lost to him on 50k-90k bracket. I'm reaching this conclusion that the whole poor rust belt whites theory does not hold water. It was mostly that hidden fear and resentment that Trump tapped into


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[Seven]

Elections are all about promising your public to excise the demons and then making them part of your administration.

They are, but Trump has a problem here. If it was Clinton who failed to deliver on her promises it would be written off as 'just another politician'.

The main thing with Trump is that his supporters believe he's special. Not to mention that he's been great at making them spiteful and angry. Imagine what happens when he turns out to be part of the establishment and they point that anger towards him..

 

[campionesidd]

They are, but Trump has a problem here. If it was Clinton who failed to deliver on her promises it would be written off as 'just another politician'.

The main thing with Trump is that his supporters believe he's special. Not to mention that he's been great at making them spiteful and angry. Imagine what happens when he turns out to be part of the establishment and they point that anger towards him..

 

[Seven]

I think there are backwards people like that anywhere, ffs Trump just became president in a not very third world country.

You have children?

No. That's the thing. Trump effectively became president of a third world country. His entire campaign is based on the fact parts of America are shitholes.

And he's not wrong either. Places with high unemployment rates, lots of crime, life expectancies as low as Ethiopia...

That's why 'make America great again' is not even that bad a slogan.

 

[Post Ironic]

Did you see the exit polls? Clinton beat Trump in under 50k income bracket, and barely lost to him on 50k-90k bracket. I'm reaching this conclusion that the whole poor rust belt whites theory does not hold water. It was mostly that hidden fear and resentment that Trump tapped into


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I did. But that doesn't take into account the vastly higher percentage of poor minorities that are in the Democratic camp.

Low-income whites have long been in the Conservative camp, especially on th socio-cultural side, mostly due to low education levels. It was the working middle class, blue collar, that was most often Democrat from the rust belt.

But as public education continues to deteriorate in the U.S. and the middle class shrinks, those whites end up drifting towards the conservative sphere of influence unfortunately.

 

[IliveForJuve]

You can bet a lot of closet racist will start coming out now that Trump is president (elect).

 

[Ronn]

I did. But that doesn't take into account the vastly higher percentage of poor minorities that are in the Democratic camp.

Low-income whites have long been in the Conservative camp, especially on th socio-cultural side, mostly due to low education levels. It was the working middle class, blue collar, that was most often Democrat from the rust belt.

But as public education continues to deteriorate in the U.S. and the middle class shrinks, those whites end up drifting towards the conservative sphere of influence unfortunately.

you gotta compare it to exit polls for past elections. I'll do that first chance I get


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[swag]

Surprise, surprise.

Trump likes main Obamacare provisions 'very much'
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

The greatest troll who ever lived.

Watch Trump become more Clinton than Hillary Clinton, essentially being Bill Clinton's sly way of being more of an influencer than his wife.

It's always amusing that poor and lower middle class white people support a party that wants to destroy public education, public healthcare, and social services.

Keep the people stupid I suppose so they continue voting against their own self-interest.

There's a flaw in that mentality. It suggests that those people are too stupid to know what's good for them from a bunch of arrogants who have no clue what their lives are really like.

A lot of those voters come from places where government handouts and social programs are still more of a form of social stigma than a benefit.

The main thing with Trump is that his supporters believe he's special.

They just want to believe he's special. Ever see Peter Sellers in the old movie Being There? It's brilliant and one of my all-time favorites. It's about how a people put their wishes ahead of reality when it comes to political hopes and ambition.

No. That's the thing. Trump effectively became president of a third world country.

Not a bad perspective to take, IMO. He ran as the leader of a third world country, much the way that Hugo Chávez did for Venezuela. And look how that's turned out...

 

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[Ronn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37948946/new-balance-trainer-wearers-bin-and-burn-their-shoes-over-trump

A quintessential example of a leaderless resistance. They just burn the energy on BS like this and when it comes to doing something actually useful (like voting in the midterms), they're nowhere to be found


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[Seven]

Not a bad perspective to take, IMO. He ran as the leader of a third world country, much the way that Hugo Chávez did for Venezuela. And look how that's turned out...

Trump was right about one thing. America used to be great. But it's not today. It's not great for many people.

And tbh I can see why those people would rather vote on a candidate who says all sorts of shit is wrong rather than on someone who will maintain status quo.

Just sucks the candidate in question is a racist lunatic.

 

[Osman]

You can bet a lot of closet racist will start coming out now that Trump is president (elect).

This was already posted here, but here you go: https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

 

[swag]

Trump was right about one thing. America used to be great. But it's not today. It's not great for many people.

And tbh I can see why those people would rather vote on a candidate who says all sorts of shit is wrong rather than on someone who will maintain status quo.

Just sucks the candidate in question is a racist lunatic.

The racist lunatic part helps support his perceived "realness", much like Chauncey Gardiner's simpleton quotes from TV in Being There were perceived as no-nonsense wisdom instead of politico-speak.

 

[campionesidd]

Trump is a loud mouthed and less humble version of Brian Cohen from the Life of Brian

 

[ALC]

Trump was right about one thing. America used to be great. But it's not today. It's not great for many people.

And tbh I can see why those people would rather vote on a candidate who says all sorts of shit is wrong rather than on someone who will maintain status quo.

Just sucks the candidate in question is a racist lunatic.

I honestly don't understand people who claim America is not great. Could you expand on that?

 

[Seven]

I honestly don't understand people who claim America is not great. Could you expand on that?

Are you for real?

I mean, I can't even.. Do you understand how naive you are being?

That's the sort of Hollywood fantasy people rebel against when they vote Trump. That you don't even consider that it might be possible for America not to be great.. Either you never left the states in your life or this is years and years of indoctrination talking.

 

[Seven]

Trump is a loud mouthed and less humble version of Brian Cohen from the Life of Brian

Trump is neither the problem nor the solution.

 

[Post Ironic]

Watch Trump become more Clinton than Hillary Clinton, essentially being Bill Clinton's sly way of being more of an influencer than his wife.



There's a flaw in that mentality. It suggests that those people are too stupid to know what's good for them from a bunch of arrogants who have no clue what their lives are really like.

A lot of those voters come from places where government handouts and social programs are still more of a form of social stigma than a benefit.



They just want to believe he's special. Ever see Peter Sellers in the old movie Being There? It's brilliant and one of my all-time favorites. It's about how a people put their wishes ahead of reality when it comes to political hopes and ambition.



Not a bad perspective to take, IMO. He ran as the leader of a third world country, much the way that Hugo Chávez did for Venezuela. And look how that's turned out...

My father started our log and timberframe home building business back in 1978. We've been employing that type ever since. I grew up working with them, and now employ them. They fill the trades, especially the construction industry.

I wasn't so much talking about social programs of the welfare-state variety, which will always have a stigma attached. Public education and public health-care, along with other government run programs for things such as childcare, etc. The tax cuts offered to the lower class that these types are obsessed with as "more money in our pockets" (which end up being a couple hundred dollars at best) are far outweighed by the negatives of slashed funding to public education and healthcare. But they feel th government is stealing their money and not providing anything in return.

They vote conservative for socio-cultural reasons more often than not. Gay marriage, abortion, gun rights, anti-feminism and minority rights, etc. They remain clueless to th benefits of good education because they don't receive one. Same deal with healthcare and health in general. This is of course a generalization, and there are many exceptions... but 'tis what I've observed over the years in interactions with such folk, and read in studies.

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This was already posted here, but here you go: https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

We all knew this would happen. These types are clearly emboldened by the affirmation the American public just gave to their bigotry and hatred.

It likely will subside, but that doesn't make it any less shameful that it has been encouraged by Trump's rhetoric in the first place.