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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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To be fair economically we are seeing results from the end of the Obama administration. We won't really see the results of Trumps business and economic policies for a couple of years.
The problem with Trump is that he has the mental balance of a toddler and does everything for instant gratification / attention. We can talk about economic policies, but there really aren't any. The Saudis were evil until he met them and they offered money. He's doing all of this on a whim.

He'll end up in jail imo, because at one point people will want to distance themselves. Even if he's just a symptom of what the republican party and people like Andy have become.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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To be fair economically we are seeing results from the end of the Obama administration. We won't really see the results of Trumps business and economic policies for a couple of years.
Of course. And I do think Bjerknes knows this, he just doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

And tbh, Seven you're note exactly helping :D Anyone would have a really really hard time admitting to being wrong with the way you keep harking on :D
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,503
Of course. And I do think Bjerknes knows this, he just doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

And tbh, Seven you're note exactly helping :D Anyone would have a really really hard time admitting to being wrong with the way you keep harking on :D
No. With Andy you have to. Otherwise he comes back in a few months and states that he was against Trump all along.

Andy voted for this man because he believed Trump would be a great president. We should never forget how poor Andy's judgment is. Never.

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pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I love it that even his android wife shows now how repulsive is he to her. What a "royal" family.

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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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I love it that even his android wife shows now how repulsive is he to her. What a "royal" family.

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I actually like Melania, even though I pity her. She seems so strong to deal with that man as husband.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I actually like Melania, even though I pity her. She seems so strong to deal with that man as husband.
I don't pity her at all. She married for this sociopath for money and she is even worse.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,503
I love it that even his android wife shows now how repulsive is he to her. What a "royal" family.

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I've read that a lot recently, but how can you guys see that? She looks like a robot in everything she does anyway.
 

pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
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I've read that a lot recently, but how can you guys see that? She looks like a robot in everything she does anyway.
I have not seen her to show any real unrestrained human emotions but only some vague imitations of them. She is an expressionless human like object from the future.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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I've read that a lot recently, but how can you guys see that? She looks like a robot in everything she does anyway.
She's probably heavily medicated and I don't blame her.

I can just see Barron at home, saying to her, "make me breakfast, you stupid whore! You only married daddy for his money!" And then Melania running to her room in tears.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,704
I have not seen her to show any real unrestrained human emotions but only some vague imitations of them. She is an expressionless human like object from the future.
I think it's the plastic surgery.

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She's probably heavily medicated and I don't blame her.

I can just see Barron at home, saying to her, "make me breakfast, you stupid whore! You only married daddy for his money!" And then Melania running to her room in tears.
They have maids for that stuff, much like you do.
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,980
I think it's the plastic surgery.

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They have maids for that stuff, much like you do.
Okay then, she's probably shy and serious by nature. She supposedly wanted a second child with the Donald but the Orange Man nixed a second child because he was getting older and already had four kids from two previous marriages. However, Melania is a very devoted mother to Barron which is good since the Donald isn't a big one for child-raising since he is an attention starved child himself.

I see with Melania tremendous physical tension and stress under a cool, stiff public posture. Yes there is botox in the face but also I think she really is painfully aware of her own limitations and lack of political skills. So she is painfully self-conscious and stiff in public - trying not to make a mistake. Very little self-confidence or esteem outside of her appearance and physical presentation. Her body language with her husband shows that she is not comfortable around him and there is no emotional rapport. She might actually despise him but can't show that publicly. She keeps to her own emotional word where he can't intrude.

I think Melania's modeling background is something she falls back on in public - posture, walk and wearing clothing. Keeping a frozen impassive facial expression with her face a mask like a model's. Just show the clothing - this isn't about you it is just about how you look and what you are wearing. Melania never wanted to be first lady - she wanted financial security for the future, U.S. citizenship and some social status when she married Donald. At that time Melania Knauss was a mid-level model approaching thirty - that is over the hill in modeling unless you are a Kate Moss or Naomi Campbell. This is all out of her sphere of comfort and I think she is struggling with things her husband has said and done in the last two years.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,704
Okay then, she's probably shy and serious by nature. She supposedly wanted a second child with the Donald but the Orange Man nixed a second child because he was getting older and already had four kids from two previous marriages. However, Melania is a very devoted mother to Barron which is good since the Donald isn't a big one for child-raising since he is an attention starved child himself.

I see with Melania tremendous physical tension and stress under a cool, stiff public posture. Yes there is botox in the face but also I think she really is painfully aware of her own limitations and lack of political skills. So she is painfully self-conscious and stiff in public - trying not to make a mistake. Very little self-confidence or esteem outside of her appearance and physical presentation. Her body language with her husband shows that she is not comfortable around him and there is no emotional rapport. She might actually despise him but can't show that publicly. She keeps to her own emotional word where he can't intrude.

I think Melania's modeling background is something she falls back on in public - posture, walk and wearing clothing. Keeping a frozen impassive facial expression with her face a mask like a model's. Just show the clothing - this isn't about you it is just about how you look and what you are wearing. Melania never wanted to be first lady - she wanted financial security for the future, U.S. citizenship and some social status when she married Donald. At that time Melania Knauss was a mid-level model approaching thirty - that is over the hill in modeling unless you are a Kate Moss or Naomi Campbell. This is all out of her sphere of comfort and I think she is struggling with things her husband has said and done in the last two years.
Yes, that is all very likely. Very extensive details in there, I like it.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I don't have a problem with cuts in theory. But these cuts are basically a transfer of wealth from lower middle class and impoverished Americans straight to the wealthiest portion of small business owners. Now, it can be argued that trickle-down economics will help return some of that wealth, and it will, just a very small percentage that will in no way offset the losses of aid for struggling Americans. At some point the right is going to have realize that these middle class jobs are not coming back and trickle-down economics doesn't work in the current global market. It started in the Reagan era with a massive wealth shift and ballooning income disparity gap, and this new Trump-Republican budget is going to make it so much worse. Not that the liberals have done any better in America pumping money into inefficient and corrupt programs. But the Republican Party needs to accept that some kind of safety net is actually necessary and work with the democrats at making one that is smaller, streamlined, and more efficient, instead of bloated and inefficient as $#@!.
But you have to begin cutting somewhere. Entitlements are a good place to start. He needs to stop with the military spending nonsense though. We've been over the other stuff before.

Oh and Andy, you've never responded to all the $#@! he's done. $#@!er's accused of colluding with the Russians, obstructing justice by firing Comey and having asked Comey to shut down free press.

None of that $#@! matters to you? He's taking not just your money, but also your freedom and you're not even just standing there but sucking his exhausted geriatric $#@! while he does it.

No, 'libtards' are the problem.. Ffs, it's a miracle you guys aren't in a civil war by now, the ignorance of your kind is staggering.

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Comey testified under oath that obstruction of the FBI's Russia probe never happened. Not once have we seen any real evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. You're falling for the scam.

To be fair economically we are seeing results from the end of the Obama administration. We won't really see the results of Trumps business and economic policies for a couple of years.
That's not what I was referring to, but even that is debatable. Small business is looking much better than it did just months ago; look at the small biz start up numbers and high growth startups. Moreover, certain regulations are being rolled back, including in my industry and others which is a good thing. The entire tax code needs to be changed, not just amended in certain areas, so that still needs to occur.

Of course. And I do think Bjerknes knows this, he just doesn't want to admit that he was wrong.

And tbh, Seven you're note exactly helping :D Anyone would have a really really hard time admitting to being wrong with the way you keep harking on :D
Wrong on what exactly? Please specify instead of pushing blanket statements.

Andy voted for this man because he believed Trump would be a great president. We should never forget how poor Andy's judgment is. Never.

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:lol:

Please quote me on that.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
17,146
You are deluded if you think the tax cuts are going to benefit anyone apart from the top 5% of the population.
The new healthcare bill will remove healthcare for 20 million+ people, if you consider access to basic healthcare as an 'entitlement', no one can help you. Even some third world countries have a less dismissive attitude when it comes to the health of their citizens
I'm not even going to discuss his environmental policies. How can any reasonable person be against clean air and water?
Nothing needs to be said about the idiotic way he conducts diplomacy.
 

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