'Murica! (242 Viewers)

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Corporatism or fascism? Or do you equate the two to some extent? Looking at his cabinet picks, deregulation policy, and the way he seems to be integrating corporate America with Washington...

I see them both as a part of the Bannon/Trump-populism.

Corporatism, I guess, would be a part of how they rule so to speak.

Perhaps inspired by Putin's Corporative Russia.

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The response of the judicial system has been very swift. The media has been relentless in going after him for some of his more insane tweets / actions. And the point of no return in terms of enemies made is rapidly approaching.
But most of these people were already against him; if 'Murica still supports him and he manages to divide the rest of the country (muslims, gays, hispanics etc.), I don't see him get any weaker - especially with the stupid electoral system (what a shitshow and a joke).
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,898
I see them both as a part of the Bannon/Trump-populism.

Corporatism, I guess, would be a part of how they rule so to speak.

Perhaps inspired by Putin's Corporative Russia.

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But most of these people were already against him; if 'Murica still supports him and he manages to divide the rest of the country (muslims, gays, hispanics etc.), I don't see him get any weaker - especially with the stupid electoral system (what a shitshow and a joke).
[video=twitter;828629365948715008]https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/828629365948715008[/video]
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
But most of these people were already against him; if 'Murica still supports him and he manages to divide the rest of the country (muslims, gays, hispanics etc.), I don't see him get any weaker - especially with the stupid electoral system (what a shitshow and a joke).
I don't think he divides the rest of the country though - they're getting united against a common enemy.

The problem is that his supporters are still a huge lot, and there doesn't seem to be anything that could stop them from standing behind Trump.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
[video=twitter;828629365948715008]https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/828629365948715008[/video]
Welp..

I don't think he divides the rest of the country though - they're getting united against a common enemy.

The problem is that his supporters are still a huge lot, and there doesn't seem to be anything that could stop them from standing behind Trump.
Way too early to tell whether or not these groups will unite. They are very heterogeneous.

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So far Trumps biggest own goal is his attack on America.

Even the dumbest redneck see himself as a patriot.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,342
I see them both as a part of the Bannon/Trump-populism.

Corporatism, I guess, would be a part of how they rule so to speak.

Perhaps inspired by Putin's Corporative Russia.

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But most of these people were already against him; if 'Murica still supports him and he manages to divide the rest of the country (muslims, gays, hispanics etc.), I don't see him get any weaker - especially with the stupid electoral system (what a shitshow and a joke).
True. They were. But in the past these organisms have always been very slow to respond with disastrous effects.



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Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
That broken record

[video=twitter;828680587359744001]https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/828680587359744001[/video]

Twat.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Everyone in the West owns a smartphone, yet these attacks goes unnoticed.

Illuminati confirmed.
What's hilarious is that having made such a mistake, which is the definition of "fake" and "made-up", you'd think Trump and zosos of the world would stop (at least for a while) discrediting everything "negative" by labeling it fake news. Trump and his team obviously have an agenda, but when do their supporters want to start using their brain (assuming there's one) i have no idea.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I was joking :p

Which one would have made you feel worse/more scared? A Trump or a Hillary presidency? Because one was going to be the president and it was everybody's responsible choice to make. Did you opt out?
I hope :p

I actually wasn't able to vote at the time of the election, not even an absentee ballot so I literally could not vote. :D

Hard to say which would would be more scary, IMO both are bad but each for obvious different reasons. The candidate I wanted bowed out a long time ago and no, it wasn't Cruz or Fiorina. At the end of the day I feel bad that it actually came down to two pretty bad candidates. For me, its more that THAT was who we had to choose between.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Well, I didn't vote for him.
I knew you wouldn't. I do think it was a problem during the campaign that intelligent conservatives have him a pass from criticism and didn't voice much opposition to his rhetoric.

Equally, I blame the democrats for choosing an appalling nominee (basically the only one Trump could win against) and the media for being overly pedantic (the fact-checking got to the point of absurdity).

But it doesn't give conservatives a pass for passively allowing "Trump-ism" to take over their party.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,898
Those are Hustinis of America :snoop::p
I really hope we had somebody here who could interpret the polls. This is his approval according to polls

Poll Date sample approve disapprove spread
RCP Average 1/27 - 2/5 -- 45.1 48.6 -3.5
IBD/TIPP 1/27 - 2/2 885 A 42 48 -6
Gallup 2/3 - 2/5 1500 A 42 52 -10
Rasmussen Reports 2/1 - 2/5 1500 LV 53 47 +6
CBS News 2/1 - 2/2 1019 A 40 48 -8

Rasmussen reports poll clearly stands out. I checked their methodology, and looks like they conduct the poll via calling landlines, but they say they adjust for it somehow.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
The polls were relatively accurate on a national scale for the election as Hillary won by 3 million votes (whatever Trump deludes himself into believing). It's the smaller scale they got horribly wrong, the swing states. I'd imagine it's likely so still. His approval ratings are low when taking into account all of America, but I'd being willing to bet they are decent in the swing states that won him the election.

Proportional representation comes from the two houses of congress. It's rather inane that the vote for president isn't done by popular vote. The electoral system in the U.S. is truly stupid. But that's the fault of both parties.
 

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