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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,645
Because a republic has protections against the tyranny of the majority.

Poll two wolves and a lamb "what's for lunch?", and it's the same outcome every time.
I get that. My point is individual states no longer need that much of a protection since their values are pretty much similar to the larger ones. The divide is within the states and between rural and urban areas. I see no point in protecting Texas as a whole for instance, with its 4 large urban epicenters and big Latino population


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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,645
:lol: Guess who's looking for a "safe place"
[video=twitter;799974635274194947]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947[/video]
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
According to Krugman Trump's grand infrastructure plan is based mostly on tax breaks for private investors & firms though, not that much Keynesian there.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
59,369
This article about identity politics is interesting.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-identity-liberalism.html?referer=





Especially this part:






"Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.” Liberals should bear in mind that the first identity movement in American politics was the Ku Klux Klan, which still exists. Those who play the identity game should be prepared to lose it.

We need a post-identity liberalism, and it should draw from the past successes of pre-identity liberalism. Such a liberalism would concentrate on widening its base by appealing to Americans as Americans and emphasizing the issues that affect a vast majority of them. It would speak to the nation as a nation of citizens who are in this together and must help one another. As for narrower issues that are highly charged symbolically and can drive potential allies away, especially those touching on sexuality and religion, such a liberalism would work quietly, sensitively and with a proper sense of scale. (To paraphrase Bernie Sanders, America is sick and tired of hearing about liberals’ damn bathrooms.)"

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swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
83,529
This article about identity politics is interesting.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-identity-liberalism.html?referer=





Especially this part:






"Finally, the whitelash thesis is convenient because it absolves liberals of not recognizing how their own obsession with diversity has encouraged white, rural, religious Americans to think of themselves as a disadvantaged group whose identity is being threatened or ignored. Such people are not actually reacting against the reality of our diverse America (they tend, after all, to live in homogeneous areas of the country). But they are reacting against the omnipresent rhetoric of identity, which is what they mean by “political correctness.” Liberals should bear in mind that the first identity movement in American politics was the Ku Klux Klan, which still exists. Those who play the identity game should be prepared to lose it.

We need a post-identity liberalism, and it should draw from the past successes of pre-identity liberalism. Such a liberalism would concentrate on widening its base by appealing to Americans as Americans and emphasizing the issues that affect a vast majority of them. It would speak to the nation as a nation of citizens who are in this together and must help one another. As for narrower issues that are highly charged symbolically and can drive potential allies away, especially those touching on sexuality and religion, such a liberalism would work quietly, sensitively and with a proper sense of scale. (To paraphrase Bernie Sanders, America is sick and tired of hearing about liberals’ damn bathrooms.)"

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While not inaccurate, it obsesses over minor details of why Clinton lost.
 

happybum

Junior Member
Oct 23, 2014
180
Jeff Sessions, what a tool. :sergio:
The loop that Trump has set up is a bit fascinating. While he's not a right wing guy in ideology, only right wing nut jobs stuck with him when no one thought he'd win. And those people are now being rewarded with cabinet positions for their loyalty, and pushing the country in a right wing direction.

Trump was complaining that he's not beholden to donors, but in reality he's beholden to Sessions, Giuliani, Huckabee, Christie which is actually worse.
 

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