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Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
458
As someone who lives in a place that lost its historical value due to nazi bombing, having family members who lived under the German occupation, visited several concentration camps, named my youngest son after my wife’s grandpa who barely survived the hungerwinter, I have to say that your total misusage of the word nazi is very offensive to the people who suffered under real nazism. About two weeks ago I was at the funeral of a family member of my wife who was born before the war and went to jail because as a Christian he believed that war was against his believes, so he refused to join the army as a conscript and did two years behind bars, as did my wife’s grandfather.

Bad word to continuously misuse. Nazi’s killed millions of people. If the US is nazi now you were it already when you destabilised the whole Middle-East with millions of deaths as a consequence.

Trump is bad in many ways but this isn’t nazism.
It obviously is.
Hitler didn't start the WW2 on the day one. It took him almost 7 years once he seized the power. In a mean time he persecuted the jews, gypsies and political opponents. People saw nothing wrong with it then too. Or if they did- straight to jail.
Trump is following Hitlers playbook to the letter. From railing up christian base, attempted coups and persecution of the opposition to the "Enabling act of 1933" levels of "executive orders" and fucking concentration camps (or even death camps).

The dude has a concentration camp in El Salvador. WTF are we talking about?
 

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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,502
in a normal country people should be prosecuted for it, even if they openly admitted that russia was an ally

(long detailed thread, pretty disturbing to think that doge/musk work together with the russians. not to mention that asking for root access and disabling logs mean bad intentions)

 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
It obviously is.
Hitler didn't start the WW2 on the day one. It took him almost 7 years once he seized the power. In a mean time he persecuted the jews, gypsies and political opponents. People saw nothing wrong with it then too. Or if they did- straight to jail.
Trump is following Hitlers playbook to the letter. From railing up christian base, attempted coups and persecution of the opposition to the "Enabling act of 1933" levels of "executive orders" and fucking concentration camps (or even death camps).

The dude has a concentration camp in El Salvador. WTF are we talking about?
Exactly.

I think this is the do or die moment for American democracy.

There have been other horrific decisions and events before this. The dismantling of entire government branches was appalling. But it was more difficult to comprehend. This is not. Trump is illegally deporting people to a concentration camp in El Salvador. He's not hiding it either. Hell, there are congressmen posing in the very concentration camp we are talking about:

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There is no plausible deniability anymore.

Trump and his henchmen are fascists and should be in jail.

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I assume that, at this point, even you must agree.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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I'm sorry for your perceived losses. Of course, I'm not on the side of any Nazis, so whether the Nazi is German or Murican, it doesn't matter to me. If Elon Musk Nazi salutes, or some rednecks fly the Swastika in the US, it doesn't matter. I hate them all.

You need to realize that fascist takeovers don't happen overnight, despite the fact this one has been relatively quick. You may not like how I implicate Christians as a huge part of the problem, but they are. That's the MAGA base. I used to be indoctrinated into this silly sky daddy cult as a child. Trump couldn't have been elected without that base of low IQ deranged people stuck in their world view that everyone has to be exactly like them. I assume you're a Christian, and if so, I feel sorry for you, considering you're unable to decipher reality from fiction. I'll chalk that up as the reasoning behind your above post.

This is a simple AI prompt that articulates reality. Anyone can do their own research using whatever AI tools, even though this is already known. I will continue calling these people Nazis, especially since @s4tch clearly explained the various definitions. But I appreciate the input nonetheless.

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And of course he's sending Murican citizens to camps in ES without due process. AI failed to capture that important detail.

So yeah, they're Nazis bro.
Just so you know, if I play this game by your rules i'm able to frame you as a nazi by doing the exact thing you're doing. If I take a few random post, not even selective searching, and if I prompt ChatGPT to analyse the posts and find parallels between nazism and your words, you're basically mirroring the very thing you seem to hate.

Conclusion:
While these radical anti-Trump quotes aim to oppose fascism and authoritarianism, they ironically mirror aspects of the very ideology they condemn. Through dehumanization, collective blame, violent rhetoric, and black-and-white thinking, they reflect dangerous patterns found in totalitarian mindsets — including Nazism. This highlights how extremism, regardless of political direction, can erode empathy, rational discourse, and democratic values.

Nazi Thought Process: Dehumanization of enemies
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Nazi whores”, “sky daddy lovers”, “go die in a fucking fire”
Parallel: Uses degrading language to strip opponents of humanity and justify hate or violence

Nazi Thought Process: Collective guilt
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Christians are the ones leading the charge”, “every Trump voter is complicit”
Parallel: Whole groups are blamed for the actions of a few, without nuance or distinction

Nazi Thought Process: Glorification of violence
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Make the death penalty for treason great again”, “push the injection button”
Parallel: Calls for or fantasizes about violent punishment of political opponents

Nazi Thought Process: Apocalyptic paranoia
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Offshoring extermination camps”, “tanks running over Americans”, “cancel elections”
Parallel: Promotes worst-case scenarios to instill fear and justify extreme views

Nazi Thought Process: Black-and-white morality
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “100% fascism. 100% Nazis. No other way to describe them.”
Parallel: Eliminates complexity and nuance; presents the world in terms of absolute good vs. evil

Nazi Thought Process: Demonization of religion or ideology
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Mentally ill sky daddy lovers”, “Christian pedophiles”
Parallel: Vilifies religious groups as inherently dangerous or irrational

Nazi Thought Process: Justification of cruelty in the name of justice
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “All troops died for literally nothing”, “Fuck you forever”
Parallel: Uses moral outrage to rationalize hatred, vengeance, or contempt

What we have here is clearly a linguistic mistake on your part, as I’ve already mentioned. You're downplaying the suffering people actually endured under the nazis by hijacking the term and placing it in a completely different context. Nazi simply means nationalsocialist.

Also big facepalm for comparing the Night of the Long Knives to Trump firing staff, such a fundamental difference and a distortion of history. The overview is full of inconsistencies; history is being reshaped into something else by doing this. It reminds me of Holocaust denial, except you're doing it from the opposite direction.

This is not to defend Trump by any means, but the words used are wrong.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
Just so you know, if I play this game by your rules i'm able to frame you as a nazi by doing the exact thing you're doing. If I take a few random post, not even selective searching, and if I prompt ChatGPT to analyse the posts and find parallels between nazism and your words, you're basically mirroring the very thing you seem to hate.

Conclusion:
While these radical anti-Trump quotes aim to oppose fascism and authoritarianism, they ironically mirror aspects of the very ideology they condemn. Through dehumanization, collective blame, violent rhetoric, and black-and-white thinking, they reflect dangerous patterns found in totalitarian mindsets — including Nazism. This highlights how extremism, regardless of political direction, can erode empathy, rational discourse, and democratic values.

Nazi Thought Process: Dehumanization of enemies
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Nazi whores”, “sky daddy lovers”, “go die in a fucking fire”
Parallel: Uses degrading language to strip opponents of humanity and justify hate or violence

Nazi Thought Process: Collective guilt
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Christians are the ones leading the charge”, “every Trump voter is complicit”
Parallel: Whole groups are blamed for the actions of a few, without nuance or distinction

Nazi Thought Process: Glorification of violence
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Make the death penalty for treason great again”, “push the injection button”
Parallel: Calls for or fantasizes about violent punishment of political opponents

Nazi Thought Process: Apocalyptic paranoia
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Offshoring extermination camps”, “tanks running over Americans”, “cancel elections”
Parallel: Promotes worst-case scenarios to instill fear and justify extreme views

Nazi Thought Process: Black-and-white morality
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “100% fascism. 100% Nazis. No other way to describe them.”
Parallel: Eliminates complexity and nuance; presents the world in terms of absolute good vs. evil

Nazi Thought Process: Demonization of religion or ideology
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “Mentally ill sky daddy lovers”, “Christian pedophiles”
Parallel: Vilifies religious groups as inherently dangerous or irrational

Nazi Thought Process: Justification of cruelty in the name of justice
Radical Anti-Trump Quote: “All troops died for literally nothing”, “Fuck you forever”
Parallel: Uses moral outrage to rationalize hatred, vengeance, or contempt

What we have here is clearly a linguistic mistake on your part, as I’ve already mentioned. You're downplaying the suffering people actually endured under the nazis by hijacking the term and placing it in a completely different context. Nazi simply means nationalsocialist.

Also big facepalm for comparing the Night of the Long Knives to Trump firing staff, such a fundamental difference and a distortion of history. The overview is full of inconsistencies; history is being reshaped into something else by doing this. It reminds me of Holocaust denial, except you're doing it from the opposite direction.

This is not to defend Trump by any means, but the words used are wrong.
Honestly.

I can't say this in any other words.

Fuck you.

There is zero excuse for your behaviour here. This shit is real. There is no time or space for your nonsense and stupidity anymore.
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
Honestly.

I can't say this in any other words.

Fuck you.

There is zero excuse for your behaviour here. This shit is real. There is no time or space for your nonsense and stupidity anymore.
You want to compare the current state of affairs in the US with Joseph Goebbels, Stalingrad, the Kristallnight, millions and millions of deaths, Josef Mengele, Heinrich Himmler and so on? Wtf is wrong with you.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
You want to compare the current state of affairs in the US with Joseph Goebbels, Stalingrad, the Kristallnight, millions and millions of deaths, Josef Mengele, Heinrich Himmler and so on? Wtf is wrong with you.
Yes.

Though probably not Stalingrad, as that was the turning point.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,898
Just so you know, if I play this game by your rules i'm able to frame you as a nazi by doing the exact thing you're doing. If I take a few random post, not even selective searching, and if I prompt ChatGPT to analyse the posts and find parallels between nazism and your words, you're basically mirroring the very thing you seem to hate.

Also big facepalm for comparing the Night of the Long Knives to Trump firing staff, such a fundamental difference and a distortion of history. The overview is full of inconsistencies; history is being reshaped into something else by doing this. It reminds me of Holocaust denial, except you're doing it from the opposite direction.

This is not to defend Trump by any means, but the words used are wrong.
That's cool and all, you can call me a Nazi if you want just because I have a big issue with Christians. But I'm not the one in Washington destroying the purchasing power of the dollar, taking US citizens rights away, or sending people to camps in El Salvador. I sort of mind my own business, but that might have to change as things trend towards Nazi Germany in the states. We have to do something about this version of Nazism.

Even though you won't change my mind and I'll still refer to them as Nazis, what would you call them?

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It obviously is.
Hitler didn't start the WW2 on the day one. It took him almost 7 years once he seized the power. In a mean time he persecuted the jews, gypsies and political opponents. People saw nothing wrong with it then too. Or if they did- straight to jail.
Trump is following Hitlers playbook to the letter. From railing up christian base, attempted coups and persecution of the opposition to the "Enabling act of 1933" levels of "executive orders" and fucking concentration camps (or even death camps).

The dude has a concentration camp in El Salvador. WTF are we talking about?
And that's what he fails to understand. Just because Trump isn't killing millions right now doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. If he's sending Muricans to a camp in a foreign land without due process, that's the same thing that Hitler did. They're already discussing building additional camps in ES to send more citizens there under the guise of "terrorism". It's really not that hard to see how this plays out. But here we are, arguing semantics with a guy who also seemingly defends Putin. Big surprise there.
 
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
And that's what he fails to understand. Just because Trump isn't killing millions right now doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. If he's sending Muricans to a camp in a foreign land without due process, that's the same thing that Hitler did. They're already discussing building additional camps in ES to send more citizens there under the guise of "terrorism". It's really not that hard to see how this plays out. But here we are, arguing semantics with a guy who also seemingly defends Putin. Big surprise there.
If Trump thought it would benefit him, he would. There's no way of knowing what he might do in the future.

Regardless, I feel like dismantling the government will hurt his administration rather quickly. Essentially all people work for money. The IRS doesn't function anymore these days, so how is Trump going to get the money to pay people to do risky jobs for him? I doubt he's going to get thousands of people to volunteer to kidnap supposedly dangerous criminals and deport them.

In all fairness the one important difference between the Nazis and Trump might be that the Nazis got a war economy up and running. Trump on the other hand has arguably destroyed more wealth than any other single individual in the history of mankind.
 

Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
458
If Trump thought it would benefit him, he would. There's no way of knowing what he might do in the future.
In all fairness the one important difference between the Nazis and Trump might be that the Nazis got a war economy up and running. Trump on the other hand has arguably destroyed more wealth than any other single individual in the history of mankind.
Well, both Hitler's and Musssolini's governments enforced a protectionist tariffs on foreign goods and raw materials. Mostly raw materials i should say, with the idea to make local alternatives. This coupled with forced labor really helped to get war economy going. Btw, is that where the Maga idiots got the tariffs idea? Can't be a coincidence :D

The difference is in the world itself now and 100 years ago. And the competence (or lack of it) between 3 regimes.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,898
Was running errands this morning and found a group of Nazis carrying crosses and MAGA flags as part of an Easter Celebration. I've seen a lot of religious celebrations before, but not one with a bunch of MAGA flags. A couple big fat dudes carrying crosses, other poor white people flying the red flags. It's like double the delusion and retardation. Next thing we'll see is a bunch of MAGA flags lining up for Santa Claus at the mall.

If Trump thought it would benefit him, he would. There's no way of knowing what he might do in the future.

Regardless, I feel like dismantling the government will hurt his administration rather quickly. Essentially all people work for money. The IRS doesn't function anymore these days, so how is Trump going to get the money to pay people to do risky jobs for him? I doubt he's going to get thousands of people to volunteer to kidnap supposedly dangerous criminals and deport them.

In all fairness the one important difference between the Nazis and Trump might be that the Nazis got a war economy up and running. Trump on the other hand has arguably destroyed more wealth than any other single individual in the history of mankind.
Very true. These new Nazis aren't the brightest Nazis the world has seen, so that is encouraging.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,990
He is old, when he speaks you can immediately notice the age has caught up with him. I dont think he will be fit enough to run for the 3rd term, even if that would be possible by increasing the number of terms a president can serve. I have serious doubts he will finish this one. The bigger problem is too many poor, low educated, angry folks that cant think for themselves and blame others for their misfortune. They will always need strong figurehead to do the thinking for them and provide excuses for being the bottom feeders. US needs to go through some radical changes but elites will never allow it. A president that maintains status quo is what they will endorse.
 
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