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That’s not how it really works. I don’t let it access my photos or microphone, and it won’t be able to access stuff like passwords, etc. the data it’s stealing is more like your browsing data, the same stuff Facebook, instagram, etal already do. The fake outrage is because it’s Chinese and not American spying.
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I don’t see Trump being particularly easy on China and he’ll probably get told by Elon Musk what to do, which is to force a sale to Elon himself.
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I don’t see Trump being particularly easy on China and he’ll probably get told by Elon Musk what to do, which is to force a sale to Elon himself.
This plus when I learned that the algoritm for Chinese kids in China versus the West is totally different I started to mistrust them.
https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/24/23467181/difference-between-tik-tok-in-china-and-the-us/
For some time ive been thinking that the trans movement with kids involved is partially because they got exposed to it on TikTok. Seems like a rational thing to do if youre China.
https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/24/23467181/difference-between-tik-tok-in-china-and-the-us/
For some time ive been thinking that the trans movement with kids involved is partially because they got exposed to it on TikTok. Seems like a rational thing to do if youre China.
We banned a bunch of Chinese apps including AliExpress and Shein. It was the time they encroached into Indian territory and stole land I think. It was mostly performative though, considering China is still one of India’s top trade partner.
Indian TikTok was bonkers though. There was nothing like it. Creators from tier 2 and tier 3 cities were making good money in a way they couldn’t on a polished platform like Instagram. It was raw and real and entertaining in a way that was never really recreated after.
Indian TikTok was bonkers though. There was nothing like it. Creators from tier 2 and tier 3 cities were making good money in a way they couldn’t on a polished platform like Instagram. It was raw and real and entertaining in a way that was never really recreated after.
It has to do with what China allows vs what the US allows. Every platform in the US makes their algorithm addictive. The reasons TikTok gets flak on this is because it’s Chinese and more importantly, their algorithms are damn good in a way that none of the US based social media platforms are able to recreate.
I’m not discounting that TikTok gathers a metric ton of data (which is what makes the algorithm great) or that China is not doing something nefarious btw. But banning a platform seems like an over reach to me. Especially if you are doing it under the guise of national security.
I’m not discounting that TikTok gathers a metric ton of data (which is what makes the algorithm great) or that China is not doing something nefarious btw. But banning a platform seems like an over reach to me. Especially if you are doing it under the guise of national security.
the point of the article what @U Picciriddu posted is a bit more nuanced though. it's not about making the content addictive. scrolling, interacting IS addictive on its own. the big difference is that in china they show your kids some scientific stuff, creative, educational, and of course patriotic content. everywhere else (not only in the us) it's the junk time wasting stuff
as for "every app collects everything" argument, even if there's no difference between the apps (and there is, at least there was a few years ago when i read tiktok's terms and conditions and blocked that shit in my firewall), as a murican citizen, would you want usa based companies to handle your data, or the chinese communist party? same goes for europeans or any other nation. personally i'd rather give my burner card data to amazon/google instead of aliexpress/wechat and i also stopped buying chinese smart devices a few years ago. there are just way too many question marks about them and i don't want to waste my time with investigating the very device before buying, be it a phone or a vacuum cleaner lol: https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/10/robot-vacuum-cleaners-hacked-to-spy-on-insult-owners
bottom line is that it's a war. bans for huawei, zte and tiktok are part of it. whether the ban is fair or not doesn't matter. too bad murica (and europe) are already screwed in way too many fields. they shouldn't have let china manufacture everything, yet they are doing exactly this, from electronics to industrial materials like epoxy
as for "every app collects everything" argument, even if there's no difference between the apps (and there is, at least there was a few years ago when i read tiktok's terms and conditions and blocked that shit in my firewall), as a murican citizen, would you want usa based companies to handle your data, or the chinese communist party? same goes for europeans or any other nation. personally i'd rather give my burner card data to amazon/google instead of aliexpress/wechat and i also stopped buying chinese smart devices a few years ago. there are just way too many question marks about them and i don't want to waste my time with investigating the very device before buying, be it a phone or a vacuum cleaner lol: https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/10/robot-vacuum-cleaners-hacked-to-spy-on-insult-owners
bottom line is that it's a war. bans for huawei, zte and tiktok are part of it. whether the ban is fair or not doesn't matter. too bad murica (and europe) are already screwed in way too many fields. they shouldn't have let china manufacture everything, yet they are doing exactly this, from electronics to industrial materials like epoxy
Promote excellence to your own youth, promote trash to your adversaries youth. This is a unique moment in history where a country as China is able to alter algorithms and literally reach millions of Western kids trough their own software.
Also if you turns things around, apps/websites like YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and X aren’t legal in China, it kinda becomes a self fulfilling prophecy at that point, you’re definitely not talking about equal terms anymore.
It think it was in this thread that I pointed to the possibility of states abusing social media when you had all the demonstrations at universities, I just don’t see why they won’t do that if they have the possibility, especially with TikTok where the demography simply is younger compared to Facebook or X, or at least here. Received heat for it when I opted it if I remember correctly. Maybe even the recent Romanian elections have a place in this discussion with all the Russian accounts
Also if you turns things around, apps/websites like YouTube, Facebook, Instagram and X aren’t legal in China, it kinda becomes a self fulfilling prophecy at that point, you’re definitely not talking about equal terms anymore.
It think it was in this thread that I pointed to the possibility of states abusing social media when you had all the demonstrations at universities, I just don’t see why they won’t do that if they have the possibility, especially with TikTok where the demography simply is younger compared to Facebook or X, or at least here. Received heat for it when I opted it if I remember correctly. Maybe even the recent Romanian elections have a place in this discussion with all the Russian accounts
I perfectly understand the nuance it's trying to make. I see it as more to do with China wanting to control what their citizens see vs them trying to influence American minds by withholding scientific content. The latter is an outcome of how very little oversight the big tech companies have in the US. China is quick to bring in laws to counter addictive behaviour with kids. Western countries can do the same, like Australia is doing for example. Instead we have Meta deciding that they want to do away with factchecking, Roblox deciding that they'll add parental controls and put the onus on them instead of being more aggressive with content moderation etc. I have a problem with tech companies (and others) scream "won't you think of the children" when they don't either and are only driven by value to the shareholder.
In a way it's funny that in the past few weeks we were seeing memes Americans were posting of how the UK were handling hate speech on social media and screaming free speech, while this week they straight up banned a whole platform.
Btw, I guess we should be glad that Juventus is not very popular these days as the best place to get more information about me is on Tuz and the Chinese and the Russians are not hanging about here trying to farm data. Well, except for Alex-444, he's one of the good ones.
In a way it's funny that in the past few weeks we were seeing memes Americans were posting of how the UK were handling hate speech on social media and screaming free speech, while this week they straight up banned a whole platform.
Btw, I guess we should be glad that Juventus is not very popular these days as the best place to get more information about me is on Tuz and the Chinese and the Russians are not hanging about here trying to farm data. Well, except for Alex-444, he's one of the good ones.
Charlie Hebdo is back!
https://x.com/charlie_hebdo_/status/1879966901918380155?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
https://x.com/charlie_hebdo_/status/1879966901918380155?s=46&t=44zFspkwtn4Oth1i9vk6Xg
is hungary a western country? we banned the use of self-owned smart devices in schools. you can use the schools' computers on class if required, but you have to deposit your phone (tablet, smartwatch) first thing in the morning and you can pick it up by the end of the day. not sure it's the right step. it's a bit like alcohol prohibition a good 100 years ago
chinese regulation of content is actually smarter than any ban or the apparent western approach. at the same time they are trying to flood western spaces with junk, so there goes their good intentions. it's simply self interest and i'm fine with that. banning tiktok comes from self interest too
i'm sure chinese and russians are everywhere in the public domain, even if you don't see them around
chinese regulation of content is actually smarter than any ban or the apparent western approach. at the same time they are trying to flood western spaces with junk, so there goes their good intentions. it's simply self interest and i'm fine with that. banning tiktok comes from self interest too
i'm sure chinese and russians are everywhere in the public domain, even if you don't see them around